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Windows 7: User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation

30 Nov 2011   #160
derryvolgie

xp 32
 
 

Hi Kari,

A huge thanks for all the time and trouble you have taken to deal with our individual queries and problems. I don't want to put you to any more trouble as I think I may go back to XP.

I wonder if the problem is some manufacturer's change or restriction in their version of the W7 install disk or the configuration of the hardware or bios etc? I am trying to install on a Fujitsu Esprimo Mobile V6555 Notebook Core 2 Duo which comes as a twinload with either XP or W7. For the last 2 years I have happily carried on with XP because W7 seems difficult/complicated and offers no obvious advantages (at least for the way I use the laptop). My recent experience has confirmed this opinion and I think I will Ghost back my XP installation and put it down to experience.

Thanks again,

Martin


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30 Nov 2011   #161
cogito

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 
Windows Search not working with this..

I have tried this but I'm not able to get it work in 100%. After the system startup all users are located in D:\Users, the same is with D:\ProgramData. Except the Windows Search that is using C:\ProgramData. When I uninstall/turn off it I can delete the C:\ProgramData folder. But when I turn on the Windows Search the folder ProgramData is recreated on C: drive.

Am I missing something from the instruction?
Any ideas how to solve this issue ?
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30 Nov 2011   #162
Kari

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Hi Cogito, welcome to the Seven Forums.

Regarding original ProgramData folder reappearing on C:, please read post #30 in this thread. There is no issue to be solved .

Kari
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01 Dec 2011   #163
cogito

Windows 7 Pro x64
 
 

Hi All!
Many thanks for pointing post #30.. I didn't manage to skim all of the posts.

But I would like to suggest a solution to all in need to be almost perfect:
Create a junction (link from one folder to another). As it is described in many solutions to the concept of moving the Users folder.

I was able to:
  • "turn off" Windows Search
  • remove the C:\ProgramData
  • create junction from C:\ProgramData to D:\ProgramData
  • "turn on" windows search
This should solve issues with other hard coded software... except he multilanguage thing .

Best regards to All,
cogito
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01 Dec 2011   #164
Crazy88

64
 
 
Blue Folders



Hello, I finally got done reading this whole thing and I couldnt find a solution to my problem. I have followed the tutorial "Relocate User Folders During Windows 7 Installation" that went ok followed it to a tee. I did notice...since I left the HDD in "during installation" that the MBR installed over their for some reason. Who knows. I used Acronis to move the MBR over to the SDD (Revodrive 3 x2 MAX IOPS). That went ok also. But all of my folders are blue now. I have tried the right click on the HDD's and selected properties and have shared the drive. I noticed when I was doing that their is alot of the same Usernames claiming the same Hat. For example. My username is Freeman. So I took a Snip it picture and attached it. Hopefully that can give you some details. I guess I just dont understand this. I have spent the last 10 hours reading about this. Please can someone help me.

Thank you.





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01 Dec 2011   #165
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Hello Crazy88, and welcome to Seven Forums.

The "FREEMAN-PC" that you see under the "In Folder" column in your 1st screenshot is your computer name. This is normal. It's not a user account.

The blue text name indicates that the folder(s) or file(s) have been compressed by you somehow. My guess is that you compressed those 3 folders in your 2nd screenshot. You'll need to decompress them. Does anything else have blue text names other than what is in your 2nd screenshot?
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27 Dec 2011   #166
SHPWin7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Kari:

First of all, thank you very, very much for your excellent tutorials and for the support you give to them. Incredible work. I wish I had something like this 4 years ago when I set up my Vista computer and moved the Users folders to a different partition. (Lot's of robocopying and mklinks back then!)

I have a new computer arriving and plan to install Windows 7 on a 120 gig SSD. I was also planning on moving my Users and ProgramData folders to a partion on an internal HDD. However, a couple of comments on this thread have given me pause. One relates to backups (images) and the second relates to performance.

Issue 1 (Images): I understand from earlier posts that you highly recommend including both the Users and ProgramData folders in any image. This makes sense. However, if the Users and ProgramData folders are located on a different drive from the OS, I'm wondering how a recovery would work as a practical matter. Presumably, I'll have an image comprising two partions (e.g. C (containing the OS and Program files) and D (containing the User/Program Data). If my SSD fails and I attempt to recover from a recent image, will I be able to recover the C partition image to a new SSD and D partition image back to the healty HDD?

Issue 2 (Performance): One poster, Madindehead, wrote in June that he found that moving AppData and ProgramData off his SSD was slowing down the system boot. If this is true, am I really gaining an advantage by moving my Users and ProgramData folders off of the SSD?

I suppose I could divide my SSD into 2 partions - one for the OS and one for Users/ProgramData folders. It's 120 gig, so it's probably large enough -- particularly if I use Library management to keep larger files (e.g. photos, movies, videos, etc) on the HDD. If I did that, presumably I wouldn't take the speed hit and I guess I could actually use the Original tutorial (as opposed to the page 22 modification)? But, at this point, again, am I really gaining anything by simply having the two partitions?
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28 Dec 2011   #167
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Hi SHPWin7, welcome to the Seven Forums.

First, AppData must be located as a subfolder in your userprofile folder. Ergo, if you relocate Users, you must accept that AppData is also relocated. ProgramData is then a totally different thing, it can be freely relocated and its location is not tied to location of other folders.

I am currently testing and working for a backup / imaging method for SSD systems where userprofiles and / or other system folders are located on secondary drives. Personally I have had no issues in imaging, the only negative aspect being that when userprofiles are not located on system drive, Windows native backup solution becomes almost useless; if you really want imaging to work in multidrive systems, it's better to use third party solutions for backup and imaging.

Relocated AppData and ProgramData slowing down boot process? Might be so, but if so then we are talking about fractions of a second, not even seconds. Even if it were a few seconds, what's the problem? How often do you need to boot? How much it affects your life or computing if your PC boots in 34 seconds instead of 30 seconds?

Your 120GB for system and user profiles is enough for most of the users. I can not tell you if it would be enough for you, not knowing your "habits", how much and what you store on Users. In my case it would not be enough, not even close:

User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation-users_properties.png

I am sorry I have no simple and clear answers for you.

Kari


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28 Dec 2011   #168
SHPWin7

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Kari:

Thanks for the fast response! After my moment of existential doubt, I took a deep breath and thought over why I've run my existing Vista system with the Users folders on a different partition: It provides good protection of my data (most important) if the OS becomes corrupted. So, I think I will go ahead and move the Users and ProgramData folders to a partition on the HDD.

Now, I've got an idea that I may try. Rather than do the initial W7 installation on the SSD, I think I may do it on an HDD (with two partitions) and simply follow your first post. After I ensure that my system is set up properly and running smoothly, I will image the installation (using my standby imaging software, Acronis) and following WHS's tutorial move the OS partition to the new SSD (and move the Data partiton to the HDD - if it's different from the one I used for the image). I see two small advantages doing it this way. First, I won't have the small residual C:/Users folder that I would get following the post #22 method. Second (and more importantly), I get to test my imaging protocol right away.

What do you think?
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28 Dec 2011   #169
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

That's an interesting way to to do it. Can not find any errors in your logics.

Let us know how it went.

Kari
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