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Windows 7: User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation

13 Feb 2014   #780
Relocate

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Madness

Ok here are the result....

So first i install different Win7 more than 20 times .....

i did also Ghost ... and use different Install ISO....from MS

Fact is , it want be work on my Computer, maybe there are more than 3 Partition on the disk....
or the Partition can not be work in a extended Partition. Nobody knows it.

Ok i talk to MS in the End .... Rubbish or what ever they say ...

RESULT In the END!!!! WASTE OF TIME..






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13 Feb 2014   #781
Kari

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There's something else wrong in your system. If you cannot troubleshoot the Windows Update (see links in my earlier post), the best would be to reinstall. If you decide to do so, please do not relocate Users and ProgramData to a logical partition.

By the way, before trying these updates did you enable NET framework 3.5 from Control Panel > Programs and Features > Turn Windows features on and off:
User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation-2014-02-13_20h12_02.png
In German Windows, Systemsteurerung > Programme und Features > Windows-Features aktivieren oder deaktivieren:
User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation-2014-02-13_20h23_49.png


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13 Feb 2014   #782
Relocate

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Something wrong

Hi Again

I think im old enough to use google or look for some answers about net 3.5.1 and also to do reinstalling this in my machine
And also i read in this forum here, about Framework 3.5.1 its include with Win 7 to switch it on
In case of any delay on WIN 7 Updates....

this fault is not this prob anyway. I switched this already on in the system control panel and where windows function switch off and on

Did you try ever a HP DVD Install ROM .. i think not!!!

WHY does THE WINDOWS UPDATES WORKS,!!! if I DO NOT RELOCATE THE FOLDERS??
THATS IS THE QUESTION??????????????????
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13 Feb 2014   #783
Kari

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Relocate View Post
I think im old enough to use google or look for some answers about net 3.5.1 and also to do reinstalling this in my machine
I wasn't implying you are not old enough to search Google when asking if you did enable the NET Framework 3.1. I was trying to politely cover all possibilities.

As you make it clear you are old enough to use Google, I recommend you to use Google Translate to type your questions in German and translate them to English and then copying the English translation and posting it here, as I have some difficulties to understand some content in your posts.

Have you done relocating several times already (multiple installs), and each time those Framework 3.51 updates fail?

I want to make this really clear: When the process is done as instructed, following instructions to the letter, and when you are using a valid Windows setup with valid Windows install media, Windows Update has no issues related to relocated ProgramData or Users folders.

You have not answered if you tried troubleshooting Windows Update as I asked you to do in my earlier post?

Anyway, I am not forcing you to use this method. If you are sure the Windows Update issue is due relocating folders as per this tutorial, please do not do it. Install Windows normally and forget the whole thing.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Relocate View Post
ODER in DEUTSCH die Scheiße funktioniert nicht !!!
That vulgar statement deserves no comments. However, I want to say this: read this thread through and you'll notice we have solved each issue members have had with relocating by sysprepping. In 90% of the cases it has been a direct user error, an error caused by user himself, and the rest has been cases where sysprep does simply not work and which are told in the beginning of the tutorial, so basically they are user errors, too (trying to sysprep an upgraded Windows, for instance).

Kari
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13 Feb 2014   #784
Relocate

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Network failed

Hi Kari,

this have nothing to do with the translation. I know finish is very difficult and i don't know how god is your Saxon german .

But after several times when there is no end this makes me crazy... OK (sorry)

One Point in your Manuel

Relocate User folders during Windows 7 installation.pdf


see "When Windows stops for asking you to set network location, choose one you prefer:"

Maybe the prob ist the missing Network Card ?

This screen is missing in my Installation . But i think it is doesn't matter. OR IMPORTANT ???

Kind regards
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13 Feb 2014   #785
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Relocate View Post
Hi Kari,

this have nothing to do with the translation. I know finish is very difficult and i don't know how god is your Saxon german .

Finnish being difficult has nothing to do with this, nor does my Sächsische dialekt which by the way is quite good.

I meant this is an English site and we recommend people to translate their questions in Google or Bing or whatever if they feel uncertain about their English.

This for instance puzzles me, I seem to be unable to understand it:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Relocate View Post
And also i read in this forum here, about Framework 3.5.1 its include with Win 7 to switch it on
In case of any delay on WIN 7 Updates....
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Relocate View Post
One Point in your Manuel see "When Windows stops for asking you to set network location, choose one you prefer:"

Maybe the prob ist the missing Network Card ?

This screen is missing in my Installation . But i think it is doesn't matter. OR IMPORTANT ???
If Windows finds a network adapter and is able to configure it while finalizing installation, it asks about your preferred network location (Home, Work, Public). The missing network location setting screen implies that no configured network adapters are found. Again, not sure I do understand you correctly but if your PC has no network adapter it can't connect to Windows Update?
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13 Feb 2014   #786
Relocate

WIN7 PROF X64
 
 
Ok

Hallo Kari

eigentlich wollte ich dir per PM schreiben. geht irgend wie nicht...

""And also i read in this forum here, about Framework 3.5.1 its include with Win 7 to switch it on
In case of any delay on WIN 7 Updates....""

das heißt auf deutsch so in etwa : ich habe es hier im Forum gelesen wie ich die Funktion an und abschalte für das Modul Framework 3.5.1 in Windows 7
Falles es Probleme damit gibt...

Das andere bezieht sich auf deine Gebrauchsanweisung, hier der Wortlaut für die Netzwerk einstellung .

Also ich wüßte nicht wo ich den Fehler gemacht haben sollte... in der Installation

Ach ja nach der Installation wird natürlich der NIC Treiber manuell installiert!

So keine 100MB Partition eine C/D/E/F das CDROM ist G und ist auch in der relocate.xml so angegeben s. U-

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?>
<unattend xmlns="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:unattend">
<settings pass="oobeSystem">
<component name="Microsoft-Windows-Shell-Setup" processorArchitecture="amd64" publicKeyToken="31bf3856ad364e35" language="neutral" versionScope="nonSxS" xmlns:wcm="http://schemas.microsoft.com/WMIConfig/2002/State" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<FolderLocations>
<ProfilesDirectory>d:\Users</ProfilesDirectory>
<ProgramData>d:\ProgramData</ProgramData>
</FolderLocations>
</component>
</settings>
<cpifflineImage cpi:source="wim:G:/sources/install.wim#Windows 7 PROFESSIONAL" xmlns:cpi="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:cpi" />
</unattend>
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14 Feb 2014   #787
Relocate

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GODADDY.COM suspicions

Hi Folks!

Keine Antwort ist auch Eine

Back to this tread from MS......

Relocation of the Users directory and the ProgramData directory to a drive other than the drive that contains the Windows directory

Relocation of the Users directory and the ProgramData directory to a drive other than the drive that contains the Windows directory
This article describes the changes in policy for the relocation of the Users directory and the ProgramData directory to a drive other than the %systemdrive% drive in Windows operating systems.
Notice
Caution Using the ProgramData setting to redirect folders to a drive other than the system volume will block your ability to upgrade to future versions of Windows.

By changing the default location of the user profile directories or program data folders to a volume other than the system volume, you cannot service your Windows installation. Any updates, fixes, or service packs cannot be applied to the installation. We recommend that you do not change the location of the user profile directories or program data folders.

that's the reason why there is NO Tool Application out now, to change the drive folder

In german ... Wahrscheinlich will da jemand einen WIN_Trabbi 7.XX bauen jetzt ist mir auch klar warum dein DENGLISH so schlecht ist... "Gänsefleisch mal `n Kofferraum uffmachen?" Aber erst nach der Wende nach Finnland reisen dürfen.

it makes no sense have to have a crypt server? Kari who and how is behind you? Stasi 2.0
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14 Feb 2014   #788
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

I just hate it when people turn their "I think that..." and "I have heard that ..." and other superstitious beliefs in facts.

Here some comments about your last post:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Relocate View Post
Hi Folks!
Keine Antwort ist auch Eine
I only response to posts written in English, as per forum rules. I told you earlier to use an online translator, type your questions there in German, then copy the English translation and paste it here.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Relocate View Post
Back to this tread from MS......
Relocation of the Users directory and the ProgramData directory to a drive other than the drive that contains the Windows directory


Relocation of the Users directory and the ProgramData directory to a drive other than the drive that contains the Windows directory

This article describes the changes in policy for the relocation of the Users directory and the ProgramData directory to a drive other than the %systemdrive% drive in Windows operating systems.
Notice
Caution Using the ProgramData setting to redirect folders to a drive other than the system volume will block your ability to upgrade to future versions of Windows.

By changing the default location of the user profile directories or program data folders to a volume other than the system volume, you cannot service your Windows installation. Any updates, fixes, or service packs cannot be applied to the installation. We recommend that you do not change the location of the user profile directories or program data folders.
Did you read the whole article, or just the lines you thought might support your idiotic statements? That Microsoft article you linked to is written 8 years ago for Windows Vista. Since then the Windows have evolved, as have the Sysprep tool.

If you had read further, you’d find this:
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Microsoft
There are various reasons why you may want to relocate the Users directory or the ProgramData directory to other drives.

For Windows, the most common reasons are as follows:
• It is easier to back up data from a single drive and from a drive that contains only user files.
• It is easier to rebuild the operating system drive on a user’s computer if user data is located on a separate volume. In this case, the drive that contains the Windows directory can be formatted, and Windows can be reinstalled without having to worry about how to remove user data.

For Windows Server, the most common reason is as follows:
• There are performance improvements when you relocate the Users directory and the ProgramData directory to a drive other than the operating system drive.

For information about how to use the answer file setting, go to the following Microsoft website:
FolderLocations

For information about the answer file setting when you are using Windows ADK, go to the following Microsoft website:
FolderLocations (updated)

For more information about the FolderLocation settings in the Windows Vista Unattend.xml file, click the following article number to view the article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
929831 A description of known issues with the FolderLocation settings in the Windows Vista Unattend.xml file
Microsoft tells it's OK to go further, given detailed instructions. The highlighted link at the bottom of the above quote gives then a full list of known issues (sadly again for Vista, not Seven and Eight). The only major issue is that you cannot upgrade a sysprepped Windows as it is, but you need to prepare a sysprepped Windows for upgrade as told in this tutorial, part 15: Windows 7 Image - Customize in Audit Mode with Sysprep

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Relocate View Post
that's the reason why there is NO Tool Application out now, to change the drive folder
That is totally absolutely utterly pure BS!

Of course there is a Microsoft Tool for this procedure. It's called System Preparation Tool (Sysprep), which is used with so called answer files which in their turn are created with another Microsoft Tool System Image Manager.

The screenshot from a tutorial of mine shows exactly how the System Image Manager Tool is used to change the locations of Users and ProgramData folders on Windows 7:

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Relocate View Post
In german ... Wahrscheinlich will da jemand einen WIN_Trabbi 7.XX bauen jetzt ist mir auch klar warum dein DENGLISH so schlecht ist... "Gänsefleisch mal `n Kofferraum uffmachen?" Aber erst nach der Wende nach Finnland reisen dürfen.
it makes no sense have to have a crypt server? Kari who and how is behind you? Stasi 2.0
I will not comment your insults.

You have still not answered my questions about if you did troubleshoot Windows Update, and if you have done this (relocating while installing) already several times and if your update issue has appeared every time.


Conclusion:

information   Information
I would like to remind the future readers of this thread about certain facts:
  • Relocating Users and ProgramData will absolutely bring no Update or Upgrade issues. It is true, though, that in-place upgrading Windows to a superior edition of the same version or to next version when at least one of its system folders is located on another drive than C: will not work without preparing Windows for upgrade as told in another tutorial, part 15: http://www.sevenforums.com/attachmen...ocations_1.png
  • Upgrading by clean installing is of course always possible.
  • This thread is a living proof that there are no issues in this procedure. We have solved each and every issue various members have had with this, always finding out that the culprit was an error caused by user either mistyping the answer file, using non-valid install media and so on.
  • Counting all reinstalls since the day first beta versions of Windows 7 were published, I have done this procedure at least 100 times since that. I have personally had absolutely no update or upgrade issues due relocated system folders, nor have there been any issues on computers I maintain for my work. See the screenshot below showing this Windows 8.1 Pro laptop's update history, Users folder relocated on E: since the day I installed Windows:
User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation-304228-walkthrough-customize-windows-7-image-audit-mode-sysprep-2014-01-31_075252.png
(You need to click a few times to enlarge image enough.)


Kari


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14 Feb 2014   #789
Relocate

WIN7 PROF X64
 
 
Ok OK

It seems like i do a fault in case there is some easy translation by the way.. OR MAYBE this understud is GOOGLE Translate?

Oh that rule i dont Know only english .. ADMIN DELETE MY BAD GERMAN Plz

Ok i Apologie ME...
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