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Windows 7: User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation

11 Dec 2014   #890
cwaters

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 w/SP1
 
 

Thanks for the explanation as to when you use Windows Backup vs Macrium. Are the sizes similar, initially? Does either product utilize compression?

I didn't realize Macrium could create a system image of a live environment! After I complete my installation, I'll try it out. Do you use Windows' Task Scheduler for this?


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11 Dec 2014   #891
namitutonka

Windows 7 Enterprise x64
 
 

Well Kari it's been a year since relocating my user folders to Drive D:. Like you said, on the safe side I created the C:\Users, C:\Users\Public and C:\Users\Your_Username folders. After a year of use, these folders still are empty. Thank you again, and happy holidays.

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Most of the programs will know how to create folders if a needed folder does not exist, but to be on the safe side I would create the C:\Users, C:\Users\Public and C:\Users\Your_Username folders.

Forgetting this trivial issue and moving on to real essential questions, both single malts you mentioned are really good. The main difference is the casks used; Laphroaig Triple Wood is first matured in American oak barrels (used previously for bourbon), finalized in sherry casks. This together with the traditional Laphroaig distilling methods gives it a nice, deep color and a very strong, nice smoke flavor.

Ardbeg Uigeadail is matured only in sherry casks, which together with Ardbeg's traditional distilling methods gives it a walnut like flavor and almost dark red color. Both single malts are excellent, in a scale 0 to 100 I would give Laphroaig 90 and Ardbeg 85.

Kari
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12 Dec 2014   #892
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cwaters View Post
Thanks for the explanation as to when you use Windows Backup vs Macrium. Are the sizes similar, initially? Does either product utilize compression?
Macrium does better job in compressing. My Macrium images are usually compressed to half. Just to get screenshots now, I created an image with Macrium. This laptop has quite a fresh Windows 10 Tech Preview Build 9879 for Enterprise, a few days since I completely wiped the disks and reinstalled using my master image. One HDD, divided to system reserved, C:, D: and E: drives. Imaging only system reserved and C: drive. As you can see the total size of the image backup is about 57 GB.
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The finished image is less than half of that:
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I didn't realize Macrium could create a system image of a live environment! After I complete my installation, I'll try it out.
Macrium creates a kind of snapshot of the system when you start the imaging process. You can continue using your computer normally, any changes you make to system after the imaging process has started while its running will not be included in image. You can browse the net, work with your documents, almost anything while Macrium works in the background. I would not recommend installing and uninstalling software while the image is created but normal usage is OK.

A screenshot to show that I am browsing the forums at the same time than Macrium made the image, finishing the above mentioned 57 GB image in 18 minutes. Restoring this image takes about 8 to 10 minutes:
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Do you use Windows' Task Scheduler for this?
No, I use Macrium's own scheduler:
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by namitutonka View Post
Well Kari it's been a year since relocating my user folders to Drive D:. Like you said, on the safe side I created the C:\Users, C:\Users\Public and C:\Users\Your_Username folders. After a year of use, these folders still are empty. Thank you again, and happy holidays.
Good to hear from you . I hope your machine has worked well. Happy holidays to you, too.

Kari


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27 Dec 2014   #893
FredM

Win7 Enterprise 64 bit
 
 
Disadvantage of relocating user profile

Hello,

After installing Win7 on the SSD, when I purchased the PC I moved the user profile folders like MyDocuments, Pictures, Videos, Downloads, etc to another drive. But the user profile grew to more than 20GB in size, especially by applications like Photoshop elements, LightRoom, etc, that write caching ans such data in Local and Roaming folder. When I move the whole user profile to a mechanical drive, does that has negative effect on performance (caching etc. is slower.


Thanks for feedback, Fred
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27 Dec 2014   #894
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Hi Fred, welcome to the Seven Forums.

If there is any effect it will be so marginal you would not notice it.
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29 Dec 2014   #895
FredM

Win7 Enterprise 64 bit
 
 
Hello, please comment on other apprach without setup script

Hello

I found an easier way to move user profiles and PrgramData to another disk/partition; please send your opinion/feedback:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koST74INsb0

How to move user profile in Windows 7 to another directory / drive.

1. After installing windows 7 you will be greeted with a user creation prompt press shift+f10 and you should get a cmd window up like in the image belowcmduser

2. Copy the Users Profiles, Program Files And ProgramData Folders onto the Partition you want to use

robocopy "C:\Users" "D:\Users" /E /COPYALL /XJ
robocopy "C:\Program Files" "D:\Program Files" /E /COPYALL /XJ
robocopy "C:\ProgramData" "D:\ProgramData" /E /COPYALL /XJ

3. Delete the old folders and create links For Program Files:

rmdir "C:\Program Files" /S /Q
mklink /J "C:\Program Files" "D:\Program Files"

For the User Profiles:

rmdir "C:\users" /S /Q
mklink /J "C:\users" "D:\users"

and lastly ProgramData:

rmdir "C:\ProgramData" /S /Q
mklink /J "C:\ProgramData "D:\ProgramData"

If you have any permissions issues while deleting C:\ProgramData don't worry about them just try to delete it and make the links again after first reboot
4. Now open regedit simply by typing regedit on the cmd window
5. To change the program files path navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Wi*ndows\CurrentVersion and edit the ProgramFilesDir and CommonFilesDir as needed regeditproc
6. For the user profiles you'll need to go to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Wi*ndows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList and again edit the paths as needed regeditprof
7. Exit Regedit and the cmd window
8. Continue to create your user
9. Reboot your machine and you should be good to go

*SOURCE* tuts4tech.net...

My PC Specs:
Intel i920, CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB PC3 12800, BFG GeForce GTX 285
EVGA X58 Classified, 2x Intel X25-E Extreme SSD, 2x WD Black, Windows 7 x64

I've built the machine a while back. Got the first generation SSD drives. Since they're only 60gigs combined, I've quickly noticed that Windows takes up a LOT of space under the user profile directory and apps data. I was surprised to see that there's no easy solution to this...and surprised that no one has showed a quick HOW TO GUIDE on how to move the directories the proper way.

In this video tutorial, I will show you how to move the user profile and apps data folder to a different drive. I did this right after a fresh Windows 7 install. This seems to be the best method from what I've found online.
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29 Dec 2014   #896
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

I don't see how that would be an "easier way"? Your PC, you do whatever you'd like to but personally I would not even dream of starting to play with links, junctions and permissions when Sysprep makes it with one command.
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29 Dec 2014   #897
FredM

Win7 Enterprise 64 bit
 
 

Hi Kari, Tomorrow my wife works all day and I have this week vacation. So I will use your pdf as guide to follow. Currently on my "120GB" SSD is have only 4.5 GB free (5%) and mainly because of the content of C:\Users\my_name\AppData my User profile grew to over 20GB even despite the documents, Pictures, Videos and Download folder were already "relocated"

So hopefully tomorrow afternoon I have a new clean install that will stay clean over longer period of time.

Kind Regards, Fred
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29 Dec 2014   #898
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

You might have some difficulties in doing it. You need to move all personal folders under your profile back to C: before starting (Pictures, Music, Documents and so on, all folders you have now liocated on another drive). Only then can you sysprep Users to another drive.
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29 Dec 2014   #899
FredM

Win7 Enterprise 64 bit
 
 
Hello can I prevent with empty folders?

Hello
In the Pdf you describe clean install. During this install does it not create those folders.

Kind regards, Fred
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