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Windows 7: User Profiles - Create and Move During Windows 7 Installation

08 Apr 2015   #920
Kari

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re-ran sysprep, set to audit & quit, and still got the fatal error.
EDIT2: I decided to try to create the system image at this point, as I was pretty much ready to do so anyway. Alas, when I tried to run windows "create a system image" I got the error, "This service cannot be started in Safe Mode (0x8007043C)"
Check the Old Geeks guide again, you'll find this in Part 6:
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Part 6: Create initial System Image and Backup

We are almost there. Windows is setup, drivers and software installed but it's still virgin: no user data, nothing but a system itself. A perfect time to create a System Image, you can always restore your system to this moment when nothing was messed and everything worked.

Windows Backup does not work in Audit Mode if the Sysprep is set to return to Audit Mode, so first thing to do is to change that.

Click Win + R to open Run dialog, type this and press Enter to open Sysprep dialog:
Code:
%windir%\system32\sysprep\sysprep.exe
When Sysprep opens, set System Cleanup Action: Enter System Out-of- Box Experience (OOBE) and Shutdown Options: Quit as shown below:
Attachment 255477
Sysprep prepares the system now for a so called Welcome (OOBE) boot and quits.
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I think your best shot would be to find time to do this from scratch in one session, not shutting down or letting the PC sleep every now and then.


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08 Apr 2015   #921
Kieran28

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

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I think your best shot would be to find time to do this from scratch in one session, not shutting down or letting the PC sleep every now and then.
I agree. I think I'll start from scratch this weekend and try to get it done in one shot. Difficult with 3 kids and a full time job. 9-11pm is usually the only window I get for PC tinkering. :P
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08 Apr 2015   #922
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

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Difficult with 3 kids and a full time job. 9-11pm is usually the only window I get for PC tinkering. :P
You are talking to a divorced man (multiple times, each times happily!), first divorce when I was 23 (30 years ago) when kids were just 2 years and other 6 months old, no more kids, never since lived with kids under the same roof, retired insomniac online 8 to 24 hours a day.

That being said, I don't know what you mean with "difficult to find time"? .
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08 Apr 2015   #923
Kieran28

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

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Difficult with 3 kids and a full time job. 9-11pm is usually the only window I get for PC tinkering. :P
You are talking to a divorced man (multiple times, each times happily!), first divorce when I was 23 (30 years ago) when kids were just 2 years and other 6 months old, no more kids, never since lived with kids under the same roof, retired insomniac online 8 to 24 hours a day.

That being said, I don't know what you mean with "difficult to find time"? .
LOL, yes, everyone has their struggles. I don't judge.
Thanks again for all your help. Very much appreciated. I'll post back if/when I'm finally successful.

BTW you might consider adding a note to your "old school" tutorial explaining what happens when/if the PC sleeps while in audit mode, and what to do about it, as well as a note cautioning against multiple re-boots.

Kieran
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08 Apr 2015   #924
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kieran28 View Post
BTW you might consider adding a note to your "old school" tutorial explaining what happens when/if the PC sleeps while in audit mode, and what to do about it, as well as a note cautioning against multiple re-boots.

Kieran
Yeah, although not today. I am not capable to do any intellectual work today. I had thought so, I kind of promised yesterday that I will be fully functioning today but that was not the case. Had my birthday last Wednesday, followed by a five day banking holiday weekend, so I was several days enjoying excellent company (Netflix, me, myself and Scotch) sleeping only a few hours.

The older you get, the longer it takes to recover...

Kieran, please keep us posted. I am very interested to hear about your adventures in Windows Wonderland .
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10 Apr 2015   #925
Kieran28

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Well, I'm currently running the backup/disk image to a Blu-ray disc. So far so good. I think what probably happened last time, was that I had installed some program that ran a service that sysprep didn't like. As you've said, sysprep doesn't like to share. I'm not sure which one was the culprit, but that's my guess. I was trying to get as many of my standard programs installed before doing the image, but I think I went a bit too far. Two that I can think of that run services are MCEBuddy (awesome, btw, if you use WMC for TV/DVR) and Media Center itself, which I ran and configured for cable TV. There might have been another or two, but I'm betting it was something like that.

So anyway, I now am (or will be soon) at the point where I've got an image of the system, but have not yet set up any user profiles or moved the user directory. I have not yet connected the HDD. So far the system only knows the SSD. My plan is, once the imaging is complete, to run sysprep again and then shutdown. Connect the HDD, then boot to audit mode. I'll do a final check that there aren't any system folders on the HDD (any sure fire ways to do that?) and then follow your instructions to move the users folder to the HDD, then finish the install & setup per your old school tutorial, and finish setting up the rest of my software.
Does this sound good? Any other tips or precautions?
Thanks,
Kieran
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10 Apr 2015   #926
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

I might be late with this:

If you do the image after sysprep command has been run with /quit switch, still in Audit Mode, simply shutdown the PC from Start Menu (no sysprep).

Now connect the HDD and boot. Windows returns to Audit Mode automatically. Any sysprep run AFTER the image and BEFORE the HDD is connected is in your case totally useless. Less is sometimes more .
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10 Apr 2015   #927
Kieran28

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
I might be late with this:

If you do the image after sysprep command has been run with /quit switch, still in Audit Mode, simply shutdown the PC from Start Menu (no sysprep).

Now connect the HDD and boot. Windows returns to Audit Mode automatically.
How is this possible? If I last ran sysprep (GUI) with the OOBE and quit options (which I did in order to create the image), then when I shut down, wouldn't it boot to OOBE?
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Any sysprep run AFTER the image and BEFORE the HDD is connected is in your case totally useless.
Why useless? I guess I'm not clear on the real purpose behind using sysprep. I thought it was to place the system into audit mode, in order to install software before setting up users, or to take the system out of audit mode (e.g. to run backup/image).
Related question: say I booted to OOBE, then changed my mind and wanted to do some more work in audit mode. Couldn't I just ctrl-shift-f3 to reboot into audit mode? Does that actually place the system into audit mode, or does it just reboot and you have to run sysprep to get into audit mode. My guess is that ctrl-shift-f3 reboots to audit mode, and sysprep gui is just used to tell the system to enter audit mode again upon reboot.

Thanks for any clarification. I'm mostly just curious about these things.

Anyway, FYI, what I did was after the image finished, I ran sysprep gui and set it to audit/quit and then shutdown and went to bed. I figured with the image successfully created I could always re-start there, if the next boot proved problematic.
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Less is sometimes more .
I couldn't agree more with that!
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10 Apr 2015   #928
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Sorry, my mistake, I totally forgot that in order to be able to create the image you had to sysprep with /oobe. Unforgivable mistake, I am sorry .

You are of course totally right.
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13 Apr 2015   #929
Kieran28

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

No worries, Kari. At least all your previous information was consistent enough that I knew better when you did mis-type!

So here's the current problem:
I am currently going through my HDD, and there are indeed a couple of folders left from the previous system, including... Programdata! (duh). Also there is a user folder left. I cannot delete either of these, because they are both demanding administrator privileges from the previous system (which now no longer exists.)
Is there a way around this?
Thanks...
Kieran
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