| Windows 7: Partition / Extended : Logical Drives |
24 Feb 2011
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#19 | | W 7 64-bit Ultimate The Lowcountry |
Partition / Extended : Logical Drives How to Create Extended Partition / Logical Drives Where Needed The Windows Master Boot Record (MBR) partition structure supports a total of only four (4) partitions per Hard Disk Drive / Solid State Drive, they can be either 4...
Last edited by Brink; 02 Oct 2012 at 02:27 AM..
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04 Dec 2011
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#20 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
I think there is a historic reason why the OS boot partition is still installed on a primary partition. Before Windows7, there was no hidden system partition which is the active partition containing the bootmgr.
In e.g. Vista the boot partition and the active partition were the same - namely C:. Thus C: DID contain the bootmgr (as active partition) and an active partition has to be a primary.
If you install Windows7 to a predefined primary, active partition, the installer will not create the 100MB seperate active partition. In this case you could not change that partition from primary to logical.
Next question would be why do we need a seperate 100MB active partition. But that is another long story. | My System Specs |
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05 Dec 2011
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#21 | | 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 & Windows 8 Enterprise Texas |

Quote: Originally Posted by sonovaio Yes I know. But...
- I asked ... if all we need to create another partition on pc, why HP (and other marks) have before created 4 primary hard drive, if then we have convert one into logical? They could create pc with 3 primary and 1 logical yet. Since they create C: as primary... for this reason I'm "afraid" to convert it. Is there a reason they create exactly C: as primary?
- And then, if I convert C: into logical... I will not be able to install another operating system. Are you agree? Or I will be able to?
Sorry for my terrible language No problem mate.
In addition to Wolfgang's post above, I believe that the OEM's like HP set the HDD up with 4 primary partitions to make it harder to make changes to the HDD structure. They could have just as easily created 3 primary and the rest logical. My guess is that they would prefer for the end user to add a second physical HDD and leave the factory one alone to preserve and protect the factory recovery partitions.
If you convert C: into a logical partition, it will not affect your current installation of Windows 7. If you shrink C: into some unallocated space and create another logical partition from this unallocated space, then yes you could install another OS if you like and if it's large enough to dual boot with your current Windows 7.
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05 Dec 2011
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#22 | | |
Thank you Wolfgang and thank you Brink!!!
Perfect explanation!
Another question: there may be the problem to make C: bootable again after the conversion? For example to make a boot from the DVD boot of Windows 7 and perform a recovery opening? Is there this risk after conversion?
Thanks a lot! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
05 Dec 2011
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#23 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |

Quote: Originally Posted by sonovaio Thank you Wolfgang and thank you Brink!!!
Perfect explanation!
Another question: there may be the problem to make C: bootable again after the conversion? For example to make a boot from the DVD boot of Windows 7 and perform a recovery opening? Is there this risk after conversion?
Thanks a lot! I don't see what possible risk you could be referring to. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
05 Dec 2011
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#24 | | |
Sorry, for "risk" I would mean "circumstance", "event".
There may be the forced circumstance (obligation) to have to make C: bootable again after the conversion? For example, must make a boot from the DVD boot of Windows 7 and perform a recovery opening? Is there this circumstance, this event after conversion?
Sorry again | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
05 Dec 2011
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#25 | | 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 & Windows 8 Enterprise Texas |
Sonovaio,
Converting C: from primary to logical will not affect it's bootability at all. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Self built custom OS 64-bit Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 & Windows 8 Enterprise CPU Intel i7-3930K 3.2 Ghz (O/C 4 Ghz) Motherboard ASRock X79 Extreme11 Memory 32 GB (8GBx4) G.SKILL DDR3 Quad PC3-19200 2400MHz Graphics Card Sapphire HD5870 Eyefinity 6 2GB Sound Card SB Recon 3Di Integrated Chip Monitor(s) Displays 3x 27" Asus VE278Q Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution Mouse Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution PSU OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W Case Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition Cooling Corsair Hydro H100 Hard Drives 256GB OCZ Vector
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19 Dec 2011
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#26 | | |
Hello again! 
My question is about Method Two:
After point 1 and point 2 (set disc C: as logical with Partition Wizard Bootable Disc), at point 3 can I shrink volume with a different program of Windows 7 default? For example another program as "Easus Partiton Master" or "Partition Wizard Professional Edition"? Windows 7 don't let me shrink over a certain quantity.
Thanks a lot | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 |
19 Dec 2011
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#27 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Sure you can do that. i would use PW. But make an image of all partitions on the drive first. I once lost all partitions due to an itty, bitty mistake with PW. Better be safe than sorry. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
21 Dec 2011
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#28 | | Windows 7 Home Premium(SP-1) 64bit. |
Hello Everyone!
I would like start here by giving thanks to you and to the forum first as I have just had much info about Windows 7 partitioning structure, MBR etc all this sort of things!
I have just got a HP with 4 built in same Primary partition:
1. System (System, Active),
2. C: (Boot, Page File, Crash Dump)
3. Recovery
4. HP-Tools
I was looking for the ans if I can merge partition 1 and 2, as they are together, using some tools. Is it possible to function the OS?..or same merge 3 and 4??
If the merge is OK then I would prefer to do that rather than using method-2 mentioned in the tutorial, because of less effort!!
Thanks! | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium(SP-1) 64bit. |
21 Dec 2011
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#29 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
System Reserved Partition - Delete
Above tutorial should show you how to get rid of the system reserved partition.
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