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    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives

    How to Create Extended Partition / Logical Drives Where Needed
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    How to Create Extended Partition / Logical Drives Where Needed

    The Windows Master Boot Record (MBR) partition structure supports a total of only four (4) partitions per Hard Disk Drive / Solid State Drive, they can be either 4 Primary partitions or three (3) Primary partitions and a single (1) Extended partition.
    This shows the different methods to create an Extended partition wherever you need one so you can create as many Logical drives as there are available drive letters that can be used to install a Windows Operating System or for data storage.
       Warning

    As with anything that makes changes to the Windows structure there is always the chance for an error to occur, it would be advisable to make reliable backups to the external media of your choice of any important data, i.e. pictures, music or documents, that you would not want to lose before you make any changes to your system, it is always better to be safe than sorry.

    Let's get started!
    If there are 3 existing Primary partitions on the HDD / SSD already, the fourth partition created using Windows disk management will be an Extended partition by default.

    To view the relevant information on the partition structure, type diskmgmt.msc in the Windows start menu search box, then right click the entry and click "Run as Administrator" if you should get a User Account Control (UAC) prompt enter your user credentials and click Yes.



    Method One

    This is what I'll be starting with.
    click any image to enlarge
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-start.jpg
    1) Open an elevated command prompt, in the command window that opens type diskpart and hit the <enter> key, all commands are followed by <enter>.

    Here are the commands, click the images below to see how they are implemented.
    list disk

    select disk # (# = target disk number)

    create partition extended

    exit (2 times to close the command window)
    If you need to create a specific size Extended partition, use this command.
    create partition extended size=61440 <- 60GB
    It has to be entered as MB and 1024MB = 1GB so 1024x60 = 61440

    You can create any size you need using the formula above.
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-disko_size.jpg
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-disk1.jpg
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-disk0_size_2.jpg
    2) Now in Windows disk management right click the Extended partition Free Space to create Logical drive(s) as needed, anything created within an Extended will be a Logical drive by default.

    You can create as many Logical drives within an Extended partition as there are available drive letters; you can create and name the drives in any way you like, this is just an example.
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-logical.jpg



    Method Two

    Here's the situation a lot of people are finding themselves in when purchasing a factory built PC these days, a single HDD and all the partitions taken by the manufacturer, leaving no chance of creating any additional partitions.
    The fortunate side of a layout like this is the use of the new Windows 7 System Reserved partition and it being the System Volume, where the Windows boot files are stored.

    If this is the situation you're in, after you have made back-ups of the data you need to save to external media and created the set of factory recovery disks or better still, created a complete image of the entire HDD to external media that can be restored if the need ever arises, have a look at the information below.
    click image to enlarge
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-2.1.jpg
       Warning

    If you do not have the Windows System Reserved or a System Primary partition completely separate from the Windows 7 partition present that is marked as the "System" partition in disk management do not attempt this, if you do Windows will not boot as Windows will not/is not able to boot / start independently from an Extended partition Logical drive, the system boot files must be stored on a Primary partition to execute.

    Windows XP users, do not do this or XP will not boot at all.

    Start by downloading the Partition Wizard Bootable ISO file from either link below then use the Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool to create a bootable DVD or USB flash drive.
    To boot the disk, in the BIOS set the PC boot order to boot first from the CD/DVD or USB drive, insert the PWBD and restart the PC, it'll take a few minutes for it to setup with no input at all from the user needed.
    Once the program has started you can remove the CD/DVD or USB if you like.

    1) In the Partition Wizard program, right click the Windows 7 partition and click Modify then Set as Logical; then at the top left Action bar click Apply; then click Yes for the conformation dialog box.
    click any image to enlarge
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-2.2.jpg
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-2.3.jpg
    2) You will get a Pending window but that just takes seconds to complete and then click OK for the Successful dialog box.

    Then remove the PWBD from the CD/DVD or USB drive and at the upper left corner click General then Exit to close the Partition Wizard program and restart Windows 7.
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-2.8.1.jpg
    Restart Windows a couple times before you proceed to make sure all is well.

    In the Windows 7 start menu search box type diskmgmt.msc then right click the entry and click "Run as Administrator" if you get a User Account Control (UAC) prompt enter your user credentials and click Yes.

    3) In disk management right click the Windows 7 partition and click Shrink Volume you can accept the offered size or you can create a specific size, don't make Windows 7 too small so installed programs/apps have the needed room.
    click any image to enlarge
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-2.5.jpg
    4) Now right click the new Extended partition Free Space and click New Volume to create the Logical drive(s) one at a time as needed.
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-2.6.jpg
    It is suggested to restart Windows every time you make a change to let Windows 7 accept the changes to the system without issue.
    Partition / Extended : Logical Drives-2.7.jpg
    Enjoy! :)





  1. Arc
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       #1

    Superb Tutorial, Mr. Partition Wizard
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  2. Posts : 22,814
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       #2

    Thank you very much Archan. :)
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  3. Posts : 8
    Windows 7 Ultimate x86
       #3

    so Method 2 is for converting a primary partition into an extended partition/logical volume.
    Why cannot we Shrink the primary partition Windows 7 Pro (C: ) without being converted into extended/logical volume???

    Can we convert the Primary partition Windows 7 Pro (C: ) into extended/logical volume using discpart????
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  4. Posts : 22,814
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       #4

    goldencomet said:
    so Method 2 is for converting a primary partition into an extended partition/logical volume.
    Why cannot we Shrink the primary partition Windows 7 Pro (C: ) without being converted into extended/logical volume???
    Hello goldencomet, welcome to Seven Forums!

    You can, have a look at this tutorial at the link below, though you must keep in mind the MBR partition limit of four (4) partitions, if you try to force a fifth (5th) partition it may convert the entire disk to a Dynamic disk and that will mess up the way Windows boots and may disable Windows so it will not boot/start at all.

    How to Shrink a Partition or Volume in Windows 7


    goldencomet said:
    Can we convert the Primary partition Windows 7 Pro (C: ) into extended/logical volume using discpart????
    No you have to use the Partition Wizard Boot Disk (PWBD) diskpart won't do it.

    First download the PWBD ISO file to the desktop, be sure to get the PWBD and not the installed version; scroll down to see the download link for the bootable CD ISO file at this link below.

    Partition Wizard Free Bootable CD

    Then use ImgBurn to burn the ISO to a CD, at no greater than 4x speed with a verify; it was designed for use and works best from a CD rather that a DVD then boot the created CD to make the changes.

    ImgBurn Free ISO Burning Software
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  5. Posts : 8
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       #5

    Yes Bare Foot Kid, you are right, currently i have four partitions and i have tried to create the volume but windows reported that it will convert the basic disk into dynamic disk and it wont be able to boot.

    Thank you very much for the quick reply...... keep up the good work.
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  6. Posts : 22,814
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       #6

    goldencomet said:
    Yes Bare Foot Kid, you are right, currently i have four partitions and i have tried to create the volume but windows reported that it will convert the basic disk into dynamic disk and it wont be able to boot.

    Thank you very much for the quick reply...... keep up the good work.

    Hello again.


    Correct, do not convert to a Dynamic disk; converting C: to an Extended/Logical drive should work as long as you have the new Windows 7 "System Reserved" partition or another separate partition presrent that is marked as the "System" volume, where the system boot files are stored.
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  7. Posts : 8
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       #7

    Is it possible to convert the primary partition (C: ) to extended partition using the diskpart of the W7 installation disc???
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  8. Posts : 22,814
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       #8

    goldencomet said:
    Is it possible to convert the primary partition (C: ) to extended partition using the diskpart of the W7 installation disc???


    No it's not, look at my first post to you above.
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  9. Posts : 9
    Windows 7 Ultimate x64
       #9

    Hi Bare Foot Kid,
    First of all I'm sorry to bring up an old thread, but I figure there's no need to start a new thread as my question is very relevant to the previous ones.

    I'm writing from Italy because I have a problem about partition of my new HP DV6 6170 (1 basic HD, 4 Primary partitions). I have some questions:

    1) I have already created recovery discs, and an image backup. Now it's possible convert "Recovery" to logical instead of C:?
    I think in this way you lose the function F11 (recovery partition) and the ability to create recovery discs, but in addition to this:
    a) the C: drive, even if it leans to the drive "system", remains primary, and having inside the OS this may be better (I'm afraid that changing C: boot I
    could lose some functionality), do you agree?;
    b) even losing the functionality of the F11 key, often you can recover it only by marking the partition as "active" from "disk management" (Start>
    Control Panel> Administrative Tools> Computer Management> Disk Management>), it's right?

    2) Why if I want to convert C: to logical I have to use necessarily Partition Wizard Free Bootable CD and not the version installed on PC? It would
    be the same if I wanted to convert Recovery to logical?

    Thanks a lot
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