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Windows 7: SSD - Install and Transfer the Operating System

29 Apr 2012   #270
alan10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by stormy13 View Post
2. Powered down and disconnected the HDD and connected the SSD in its place.
Did you disconnect the HDD because hardware constraints would not accommodate both devices simultaneously,
or does the presence of the original HDD affect the integrity of the Boot CD image restore to the SSD ?
I have seen warnings that when a disk is cloned the original should be removed before booting up the new, but not seen such a warning when restoring an image to the new HDD.

Recently an SSD was added to my desktop and the BIOS Boot Order juggled to favor the SSD before the HDD, and Macrium PE Rescue CD restored the HDD image to the SSD.
The SSD booted O.K. as C:\ (and "old windows" on the HDD became G:\) but some aspects of Windows were defective so I finished up with a fresh installation of Windows.

Macrium never failed when restoring my HDD so I am puzzled by apparent corruption when putting the HDD image onto the SSD.
I am hoping that the problem was not due to my restored image including my own special reparse points that diverted things like the Firefox caches and the Comodo A.V. "spare" signature base to another HDD.
I intend to implement the same reparse points on the SSD - but carefully in-case it goes belly up again.

Regards
Alan


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29 Apr 2012   #271
cyclic

Windows 7 home premium x64
 
 

I followed the tutorial but used Acronis to make an image, I restored to SSD and it would not boot, did a repair using DVD, all ok now.

The tutorial is excellent by the way.
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29 Apr 2012   #272
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Now I know I am a pain but have got to the Macrium bit and this is where I am stalling I have the Macrium app but it opens to this window and I just cannot figure out how to transfer the C; to the new U: partition in the SSD.

Sorry but I am so used to using EaseUS to do this sort of stuff only it hasn't got this function that I can find.
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29 Apr 2012   #273
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 8 Pro / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Main lap Asus ROG 7 Pro
 
 

Well for what it is worth and the problems I have had with the SSD and the amount of time that I have spent trying my very hardest to get the thing to work properly I could have built another machine or two.

I don't claim to be an Einstein but surely installing an OS on a SSD cannot be rocket science but apparently it is.

Again FWIW my quad core tester is faster to boot than the Sandy Bridge with 4x the RAM in it and it has only got an old 3Gbs HDD and 4GB.
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29 Apr 2012   #274
stormy13
Microsoft MVP

Win 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote:
Did you disconnect the HDD
Disconnected as in removed both the power and SATA cables and put them on the SSD. The bios even cooperated by putting the SSD as the primary boot drive just like the HDD had been; then again the only thing that changed as far as the bios was concerned was the name of the drive. Also didn't have to change to AHCI as it has been running like that since I built the computer.

Haven't bothered to reconnect the old HDD as there is no need for it, and will likely wipe it and use it as the OS drive in my kids computer as it is a bit faster than the 250 GB that is in it now.
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29 Apr 2012   #275
alan10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
 
 

Actually I was wondering about the reason for disconnection, not the fact or the method.

My image restore was a partial success, whilst yours was a total success,
so I was thinking you might have simply had a physical necessity with a Laptop,
or you might have followed a recommendation I was not aware of,
and whether this could be the magic difference that caused a problem for my SSD.

Regards
Alan
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29 Apr 2012   #276
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Alan, Unlike when you make a fresh install, for dumping an image there is really no reason to disconnect the HDD.

When you make a fresh installation, the installer may place the 100MB active partition or the BCD on the HDD - especially if the HDD is on a lower number port than the SSD.

If you restore an image, that does not happen. You have to, however, watch what happens with your bootmgr. If it was originally in the 100MB partition, you best transfer (actually copy) the bootmgr to the C partition. Else you have to image and restore the 100MB partition and the C partition.
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29 Apr 2012   #277
alan10

Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit SP1 x64
 
 

Thanks, I thought there was no need to disconnect the HDD but when I saw Stormy's post I thought he might have known that it was better practice.

My son works in I.T. and early last year he installed Windows 7 with the 100 MB MSR on a desktop for me.
Previously I used XP on a Laptop and feel it is a bit early to risk trashing a new system
My Macrium images did (and still do) include the MSR with C:\ in each partition backup.
(I use a BAT script to easily select Full or DIFF or INC backups of preselected groups of partitions)

My system has some asymmetry.
It started with 4 GB.
Another 4 GB was was bought but the system failed to boot with any more than 6 GB installed.
After 5 or 6 shift and shuffle attempts it eventually booted with 8 GB.

Not related to the above but perhaps another hardware issue :-
a BIOS non-bootable GPT 600 GB HDD is and always has been seen by Partition Wizard as Disc 1
my bootable 1000 GB HDD is seen as Disc 2, and MSR is Primary; Active
My new SSD is seen as Disc 3, and MSR is Primary; Active&Boot

My BIOS Boot order is
Removable Flash Drive (Macrium Rescue)
CD/DVD
SSD
SamSung 1000 GB HDD

I am hoping that should the SSD fail to boot then the original C:\ on the 1000 GB HDD will automatically boot up.

Regards
Alan
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29 Apr 2012   #278
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 

When installing an OS on a new or clean SSD/HDD I would recommend disconnecting the data cables of all but the OS drive. Often you may not need to but it avoids the possibility of boot files being installed on a drive other than the OS drive. You don't want this.
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30 Apr 2012   #279
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 8 Pro / Desk2 7 Home Prem / Main lap Asus ROG 7 Pro
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mjf View Post
When installing an OS on a new or clean SSD/HDD I would recommend disconnecting the data cables of all but the OS drive. Often you may not need to but it avoids the possibility of boot files being installed on a drive other than the OS drive. You don't want this.
Absoflaminglutely MJf that happened to mine it has really taught me a lesson do things in haste repent at leisure.

Luckily I have reinstalled the OS to the SSD and apart from the continuing slow boot>load................................. the device works really fast.

Plus I had a eureka moment last night in understanding the transfer of Users etc - Wolfgang's tut video is more up my alley than reading and doing

So anyone in my boat the vids are the best as one can see what it is that one should clicking on or pointing at
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