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Windows 7: UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) - Install Windows 7 with


21 Dec 2012   #40
nicman

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
 
 
No Third Partition...

Hi, guys. Followed the instructions to the letter (I think, at least). When I get to the step where I should see three partitions, I only see two: the System and Primary partitions. Is this still OK or must I do something differently?

Thanks for your help!


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21 Dec 2012   #41
Brink
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

Hello Nicman,

That sounds like you didn't get a UEFI (GPT disk) installation, but only the legacy (MBR disk) instead.

What are you using to install with?

If the UEFI USB from step 1, what did you use to create it with?
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22 Dec 2012   #42
nicman

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
 
 

I chose the UEFI USB route, and used a 4GB flash drive, with my Win 7 Home Premium DVD. I didn't see a single error when creating it (following the instructions in "create a Windows 7 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI"). My BIOS was able to see it in the boot menu, and I completed the installation from the flash drive just fine. I made sure, of course, that my BIOS had UEFI enabled. The one slight deviation from he instructions was that I left the DVD Drive as #1 boot priority, followed by the UEFI drive (priority #2). I didn't think it mattered, since I had taken the Win 7 CD out already... so it was empty. I assumed that it go to the flash drive, which it apparently did, since I installed the OS.
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22 Dec 2012   #43
Brink
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

Ah, ok.

You would need to set your HDD to be listed as #1 in the boot priority list in UEFI/BIOS settings for now, and only select to temporarily boot from the USB in the separate boot menu for the first time to start installation.

This way when the computer restarts for the first time during installation, it will boot from your HDD to finish installation instead of booting from the USB again to start the installation over.

What type Win 7 Home Premium DVD is this? Since you didn't get the 3 partitions, it sounds like you will need to use the red warning box under step 7 in the tutorial below to create the UEFI USB with instead, and start over.

UEFI Bootable USB Flash Drive - Create in Windows
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22 Dec 2012   #44
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nicman View Post
I chose the UEFI USB route, and used a 4GB flash drive, with my Win 7 Home Premium DVD. I didn't see a single error when creating it (following the instructions in "create a Windows 7 installation bootable USB flash drive for UEFI"). My BIOS was able to see it in the boot menu, and I completed the installation from the flash drive just fine. I made sure, of course, that my BIOS had UEFI enabled. The one slight deviation from he instructions was that I left the DVD Drive as #1 boot priority, followed by the UEFI drive (priority #2). I didn't think it mattered, since I had taken the Win 7 CD out already... so it was empty. I assumed that it go to the flash drive, which it apparently did, since I installed the OS.
Try to see if enabling "CSM" (Compatibility Support Module) in the bios could do the trick...maybe some modules need it, both Uefi & Legacy OpRom. CMS SPec
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22 Dec 2012   #45
nicman

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
 
 

@Brink:
The way that I got around re-running the installation from the USB drive (over again) was simply removing it while the computer rebooted itself during the actual installation. The boot priority was apparently happy enough, because it knew to use the HDD to continue the installation. It did so without a problem.

I had read the red box under Step 7, but ignored it because first, it said Win 8... but also because I actually DID see UEFI xxx in the boot menu in BIOS.

By the way, I have the Win7 Home Premium x64 DVD.

@NoN:
Thanks for the link. It seems like it's for using a USB CD/DVD drive... but I take it that it applies to using my USB flash drive with Win7 on it too? I guess what I really have trouble understanding is what the UEFI version of the installation looks like. To me, the UEFI bootable USB flash drive contains the same content as what's on the DVD. This makes me wonder if selecting UEFI in BIOS and using the actual Win7 DVD would have given the same result. In any case, manually selecting the UEFI USB line during boot-up would have been nice, just for 100% certainty. And checking to see if there was any CSM option in BIOS would also have been nice.

Too bad I was peer pressured by the kids to finish the installation last night. It's their gaming PC (which recently had a hard drive failure). It would have been nice to get this thing working. I'd like to understand this, though, for next time. So I appreciate your response. Thanks for your help, guys.
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22 Dec 2012   #46
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nicman View Post
@Brink:
The way that I got around re-running the installation from the USB drive (over again) was simply removing it while the computer rebooted itself during the actual installation. The boot priority was apparently happy enough, because it knew to use the HDD to continue the installation. It did so without a problem.

I had read the red box under Step 7, but ignored it because first, it said Win 8... but also because I actually DID see UEFI xxx in the boot menu in BIOS.

By the way, I have the Win7 Home Premium x64 DVD.

@NoN:
Thanks for the link. It seems like it's for using a USB CD/DVD drive... but I take it that it applies to using my USB flash drive with Win7 on it too? I guess what I really have trouble understanding is what the UEFI version of the installation looks like. To me, the UEFI bootable USB flash drive contains the same content as what's on the DVD. This makes me wonder if selecting UEFI in BIOS and using the actual Win7 DVD would have given the same result. In any case, manually selecting the UEFI USB line during boot-up would have been nice, just for 100% certainty. And checking to see if there was any CSM option in BIOS would also have been nice.

Too bad I was peer pressured by the kids to finish the installation last night. It's their gaming PC (which recently had a hard drive failure). It would have been nice to get this thing working. I'd like to understand this, though, for next time. So I appreciate your response. Thanks for your help, guys.
Guess you tried!

Install Windows 7 x64 in a UEFI Mode could have been good for you IF you was planing to deploy the OS as for Professional matter or for your Personal end-user needs.

Also UEFI Mode is good for those Huge capacity Drives, like 3T and new 4T.

Normally you should have been able to install in UEFI mode through original DVD/CD Drive also as it appears double during boot as Uefi USB Stick does.

In Bios you should have been able to set something like "CSM" on Enable (set to Both Uefi & Legacy OpRom) and "Windows UEFI Mode" (set to standard).

I think at the moment some modules plug onto MB and others are not entirely ready for UEFI Drivers and some UEFI Bios updates have to be made on Motherboards, just to be sure all of that is fully compatible.

Guess more you'll wait better the next time you"ll install, it could have chance to work that mode properly with new & improved components.
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22 Dec 2012   #47
theog

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

ME/XP/Vista/Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by nicman
I chose the UEFI USB route, and used a 4GB flash drive, with my Win 7 Home Premium DVD.
Is the DVD x32 or x64?
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22 Dec 2012   #48
nicman

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit
 
 

It's x64, theog.

Non, it's true... I should have been more patient.
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04 Jan 2013   #49
MrCrowling88

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 
Installing Windows 7 on a new windows 8 laptop

Hi Guys,

I'm trying to install Windows 7 Ultimate x64 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 8 pre-installed. I'm getting to the boot menu, choose to boot from DVD, press any button to start the installation. It's copying the installation files and then The Windows Logo shows up stating "Windows is starting" and that's where it stops. It doesn't move any further. Would you know why ? Does it have anything to do with the new UEFI boot mode ?

Your help will be much appreciated.

Many thanks,

MrCrowling
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