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Windows 7: Dual Boot - Windows 7 and Linux

16 Mar 2013   #30
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICit2lol View Post
Hiyya Golden I ma going to try this on a tester machine and I am just wondering re using the Partition Wizard I have this installed already on the machine can I use that instead of making a bootable drive / disk of it?

Sorry to be a bit dumb but it just looked a bit like double handling. But so far so good and the tutorial is really set out

John
If you're resizing then you should use the disk as any other method (including PW Home version) besides Disk Mgmt and PW Disk can fail with data loss.

Back up your files and a System Image anyway.


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16 Mar 2013   #31
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Ok I'll make bootable disk then.
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16 Mar 2013   #32
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

John, as Greg stated, its best to use the bootable Partition Wizard - especially since you will be manipulating the C: and System Reserved partition, and you want to do that outside of the Windows boot environment to avoid issues.
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16 Mar 2013   #33
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Golden View Post
John, as Greg stated, its best to use the bootable Partition Wizard - especially since you will be manipulating the C: and System Reserved partition, and you want to do that outside of the Windows boot environment to avoid issues.
Thanks Colin I was wondering why even though Greg did explain it to me but as usual a bot slow on the uptake - will do.
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16 Mar 2013   #34
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Hiyya Golden Mate have a little problem in that I set the machine to boot from the USB and it goes to a black screen witha flashing white cursor and after about two minutes it lets out this continuous high pitched sound like the initial RAM beep. I then have to shut it down and now don't know what could be the problem. I have tried formatting the stick to FAT32 and NFTS with the same result??

Any ideas please? - should I have the separate items on different drives


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17 Mar 2013   #35
johnwillyums

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Hi Guys.

Not to throw a pall over this latest correspondence, but I just thought I'd let you know that I tried the dual boot again-Win7 on SSD and Linux Mint 14 on a separate HDD-and failed again.
I used Gummiboot and a tutorial from Linux Mint Forums. Once again I hit problems with the EFI boot manager on my mobo.
This resulted in an inability to boot either OS. I panicked and attempted to reinstall W7 on my SSD. However, my mobo could not see any drives in in the BIOS, so Windows loaded files, then asked me where to put the OS. There were no SATA ports showing any of my 4 drives.
I disconnected all of the drives, and all cables from the mobo, SATAs, power cables etc. Left it in bits overnight.
The next day I reconnected the SSD and the two Windows storage drives, and there was my W7 install on the SSD.
Looking through various Linux forums I'm seeing a litany of failures to achieve dual boot. This is not helped by the purist attitudes of some Linux gurus, who tend to think people should give up the idea of a dual boot, and move to Linux only
Also, Linus Torvalds has said he refuses to make any alterations in the Linux kernel, to accommodate a signed driver for Linux that was acceptable to MS. He says this would require constant updates, new signed drivers, every time he changes the kernel.
I believe Red Hat/Fedora are working on a combination/merging, of the three main ways around the signed driver issue. It is important for them, as Fedora runs on a lot of servers, especially in the developing world. Also European cities, for example Munich, are moving their entire administration/civil service IT to a specially designed Linux OS, for both security purposes and economic reasons.
I think this issue will be solved soon, probably by Google merging Android with Chrome OS. This will give Google the jump on MS, as they will have an OS that is coherent on both PCs and mobile 'phones, tablets etc, except ARM devices.
Personally, my brain hurts from trying, and failing, about four times now.
Cheers, and good luck, John
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17 Mar 2013   #36
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Thanks John I found the source of that awful noise - it was my UPS howling it's head off for some reason and this has only happened since I tried the dual boot process. So perhaps you are right in that the proverbial spanner drops into the work.

However I do have this old tester here that I can stick three different HDD's in and have XP on one 7 on another and I can squeeze some life out of an old 80GB SATA I have lying around for the Linux.

So in theory I can set the BIOS to either #1 #2 #3 drive or just just plug one in at a time. I don't really mind as it is just a tester and I am trying various hardwares and apps out in it.
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17 Mar 2013   #37
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by johnwillyums View Post
Once again I hit problems with the EFI boot manager on my mobo.
This resulted in an inability to boot either OS.
John - as far as I know, you cannot install Linux under UEFI, or at least not very easily??? You would have to revert to classic BIOS (for both Linux and Windows 7) to install as a dual boot.

This tutorial was specifically written for BIOS - I have never tried this using UEFI.

@John ICIT2LOL - the UPS should have no effect on trying to boot from a USB. have you tried unplugging it to see what happens?

Regards,
Golden
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17 Mar 2013   #38
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

Yes mate I have tried it twice now and both times it sets that UPS off. I'll try it again tomorrow from a non UPS point.

The computer is an old one (originally XP) with a single core Pentium 4 630 and 4GB DDR RAM so I am thinking maybe that has something to do with it. Though it does boot 7 and XP (separate drives not plugged in together) ) almost as fast as my Sandy Bridge and quite the fastest oldy I have ever had.

The board is an Intel 915GAV (J2E1) (chipset i914P/i915G) all temps are really good.

So as per my post I might just have to put Mint on it's own dedicated drive .
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17 Mar 2013   #39
Golden
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ult. x64
 
 

Having Mint on its own drive will also work nicely......but how will you install it? You will still need to use the USB method right?
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