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Windows 7: Partition or Volume - Create New

05 Feb 2010   #140

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Hi again,

After many hours of hard work I finally got back to initial state (6 hours today only, with different programs to clean an reformat HD and a couple of calls to HP support).

Partition or Volume - Create New-initial-state.png

So this time I want to check first with you guys in this forum.

My plan is the following (please feel free to comment or correct for optimal solution):

1. Defrag C: for best shrinking abilities
2. Delete Recovery partition
3. Extend C: (automatically to the deleted Recovery - which should now be unallocated volume
4. Shrink the New C:
5. I should now have SYSTEM , C: (so small that Windows Disk management allows me to) , Unallocated Volume (big size) and as the 4th partition HP TOOLS
6. Rightclick on the big unallocated Volume and choose what?
7. Hopefully I will end up with 4 primary partitions

Are there better solutions, please tell me.

I Hope for your patience and suggestions

All the best

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05 Feb 2010   #141

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64

That should be OK. You have already created your recovery disks, and have proved that they work. When you defrag your C: drive, do so from within an Elevated Command Prompt using the following command: defrag C: /H /U /V /X. Note that this will take some time, depending on the state of the drive.

To answer your point 6.

In the Tutorial at the beginning of this thread, follow the instructions from Step 5. onwards in METHOD ONE.
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05 Feb 2010   #142

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Thank you for your input Dwarf,

There is only a couple of questions that comes to my mind:

1. When I read the "method one" there is something important at the beginning.
3 Primary Partitions + 1 Extended Partitions

If I understand you and the guide correct, there will be absolutely NO risk with my suggested list (above)? I mean, If I delete the recovery partition it will go black and turn into unallocated volume, right?

Then in the next step if I rightclick on C: and choose "EXTEND" , does that mean that C: automatically turns into this "Extended Partition" mentioned in method one? (I don't want to put me in the same situation as before....)
The current state is, when I open "Disk management", that all 4 of my partitions is PRIMARY.
None of them are an "EXTEND Partition" right now.

2. Does it matter that the last partition (HP TOOLS) is to the right of C: and Recovery ? I can shrink and extend no matter what with C: ?

Best regards
My System SpecsSystem Spec
05 Feb 2010   #143

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64

Hi Anders,

The partition will be automatically created as type Primary.
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05 Feb 2010   #144

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Ok. I presume that everything will be fine if I understand you correct.
I will now defrag C: from your description above (Might take a while)

None of the partitions have been defragmented before, but I suppose it does not matter. I also presume that the "recovery disc" that I am going to delete does not need to be formatted or defragmented before proceeding with all operations I mentioned above.

My plan is to have a big partition for all my documents. I am also planning using VMware for testing different OS on that partition too.

And maybe in the nearest future I want to be able to create a dual boot next to Windows 7, but I recon I must then again go into Disc Managment and create another structure for my partitions?

Sorry for all these questions.

Thanks for all your help.

I will be back and check here after I defragmented C:

All the best

Hm.... Nothing change. C: is still 3% fragmented after defragmentation.

I'll guess it's time for partitioning.... Wish me luck.

Here is before and after defrag:

Partition or Volume - Create New-defrag-before.png Partition or Volume - Create New-defrag-after.png

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05 Feb 2010   #145
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by anders7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf View Post


I spoke to HP support and they suggested me to use my recovery DVDs I made 2 days ago.

Hopefully this cover everything, restore disc and partitions as they where from the start.

Should that not work, ask HP to send you an installation disk. They usually do that for a S&H charge ($20 last time I checked).
My System SpecsSystem Spec
05 Feb 2010   #146

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Hi there,

Here is how far I got. Look right, doesn't it?

Would appreciate some comments before proceeding.

1. My defragmentation of C unsuccessful (still 3 % fragmented)
2. Delete Recovery - Success
3. Extended C: Success

Look at picture below.

Is it wise to try to perform a new defrag of C: before shrinking it?

Partition or Volume - Create New-delete-recovery.png Partition or Volume - Create New-extend-volume.png

Partition or Volume - Create New-extended-19-gb.png Partition or Volume - Create New-after-extension.png

All the best

My System SpecsSystem Spec
05 Feb 2010   #147

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64

Hi Anders,

That looks OK. Don't worry about the fragmentation report. The reason for doing this is to consolidate the free space, which is done when the /X switch is specified. You can now shrink C: Partition or Volume - Shrink and create a new partition in the unallocated space.
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05 Feb 2010   #148

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit

Thanks Dwarf,

I really appreciate your support here.

I can not shrink so much as I want to, but I suppose there is nothing I can do about that?

( Current state only allows me to shrink C: from 476 GB to 234 GB )

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Partition or Volume - Create New-shrink.png 
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05 Feb 2010   #149

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64

Hi Anders,

No, there is nothing you can do about that. You can only shrink a partition as far as disk management says you can. What you can do is to shrink the partition, temporarily leave the newly created space as unallocated and then repeat the operation on the newly shrunk C: (restart your system after shrinking). Repeat the defrag command I mentioned earlier and then see if you can shrink C: any further.
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