Clean Install with a Upgrade Windows 7 Version

Brink · Feb 23, 2013

VistaKing said:
To each their own . Doubt Microsoft would call up their lawyers I'd they found out . They have more fish to fry .

Note : don't worry i buy my windows copies from retail stores .

We do have a very strict policy that anyone found to purposely perform or recommend any illegal action will be permanently banned from the site, and I would personally turn them in to Microsoft to have their key deactivated.

Petey7 · Feb 23, 2013

Brink said:
VistaKing said:

He stated XP has never been installed on that computer . So as long as you own a physical copy of previous windows versions you may legally install windows 7 with an upgrade disk to do a clean install ?

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If it's a retail copy of a qualifying OS, then yes.

This is exactly what I wanted to hear. Even if I could get away with it either way, it would drive me nuts knowing something about my setup was illegal in anyway. Thank you a million times over Brink. :party:

Thank you for your involvement as well Vistaking. You ask just the right questions.

EDIT: Brink, that policy is a good one indeed, and is one reason why I asked you. I knew you would by honest about it.

Brink · Feb 23, 2013

Glad we could help Petey.

VistaKing · Feb 23, 2013

Petey7 said:
Thank you for your involvement as well Vistaking. You ask just the right questions.

I was speaking as the ones that don't know . All of my software are legit !

Brink · Feb 23, 2013

No worries VK. We know you wouldn't do anything dumb like that.

That message was for those that didn't know as well.

swamped · Apr 13, 2013

Hi, I've read this whole thread, and while trying to keep it all straight in my head I still have a question;
I'm running an upgrade version of W7 Ultimate, which I installed a couple years ago over a retail version of Vista Ultimate. Now I need a bigger C drive, and plan to install a new, larger SSD. It appears I'll have to use Option Three to reinstall W7 Upgrade, is that right?
The instructions say to download the .bat file and save to the desktop. I assume it'll have to be saved to a flash drive or dvd as the desktop would be wiped clean after installing the new SSD.
When I did the W7 Upgrade on this pc2 years ago, I also installed the Vista Ultimate 32 bit version on an older pc. That's been running with no problem since. But the thing is, that 32 bit version uses the same activation key as the original 64 bit version I replaced on this pc, with the W7 upgrade.
My take on this is that W7 upgrades are version dependant from the same activation key. Do I have this right?

Brink · Apr 13, 2013

Hello Swamped,

Yep, your Windows 7 product key number will be able to install both the 32-bit or 64-bit version of your Windows 7 Ultimate. However, the installation disc is either 32-bit or 64-bit, so you will need to have the correct one you want to install as well. Of course, you can only have one installed at the same time and not both.

Actually, I find that using OPTION FOUR works the best, but it does a take a bit longer to do.

OPTION THREE is mostly only for if you get that error message.

Hope this helps,

Shawn

swamped · Apr 13, 2013

So I go directly to Option Four, and do these two steps-
1) http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html beginning at, Here's How.

2) Once installed as above, go to http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1818-upgrade-install-windows-7-a.html , beginning at #9 (for a in-place Upgrade Install.

Right?

Brink · Apr 13, 2013

Correct, but you would start "2)" from step 4 and use step 9 when you get to it.

swamped · Apr 13, 2013

So after the completion of #1, I will have already installed the device drivers, and Windows Updates?

Not being picky, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this idea of a double installation process.

Brink · Apr 13, 2013

swamped said:
So after the completion of #1, I will have already installed the device drivers, and Windows Updates?

Not being picky, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this idea of a double installation process.

Nope. You would do step 1 in OPTION FOUR to just have a clean install without it being activated, or anything else installed.

Then you would do the upgrade install, activate, and install your drivers, programs, and such.

swamped · Apr 13, 2013

Right. I just re read Option Four. Got it, and thanks for your patience, Brink.

Brink · Apr 13, 2013

You're most welcome. Please let us know how it went.

jmichae3 · Apr 14, 2013

I would upgrade the hard drive first. fss casper 7.0 - you should get the bootable ISO, so license requires you must get the windows version and also pay the extra $10 to get the ISO version. so total $69.95 I think. recommended dock(s) are the ICY Dock MB981U3-1SA. it has a detachable module and it's USB 3.0/2.0 and handles up to 4TB, SATA, 3.5" IDE, and 2.5" ide. ICY DOCK MB981U3-1SA 2.5"/3.5" USB 3.0 SATA Docking Station with IDE Adapter - Newegg.com
https://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817198048
it will auto-grow the partition(s).

Britton30 · Apr 14, 2013

jmichae3 said:
I would upgrade the hard drive first. fss casper 7.0 - you should get the bootable ISO, so license requires you must get the windows version and also pay the extra $10 to get the ISO version. so total $69.95 I think. recommended dock(s) are the ICY Dock MB981U3-1SA. it has a detachable module and it's USB 3.0/2.0 and handles up to 4TB, SATA, 3.5" IDE, and 2.5" ide. ICY DOCK MB981U3-1SA 2.5"/3.5" USB 3.0 SATA Docking Station with IDE Adapter - Newegg.com
https://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/

it will auto-grow the partition(s).

Upgrade the hard drive?

This tutorial needs no purchases. If you mean make a back up of the drive, then we use the free Windows backup of free Macrium, but that is another tutorial, not for the Upgrade install.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html#post648001

jmichae3 · Apr 16, 2013

Britton30 said:
jmichae3 said:

I would upgrade the hard drive first. fss casper 7.0 - you should get the bootable ISO, so license requires you must get the windows version and also pay the extra $10 to get the ISO version. so total $69.95 I think. recommended dock(s) are the ICY Dock MB981U3-1SA. it has a detachable module and it's USB 3.0/2.0 and handles up to 4TB, SATA, 3.5" IDE, and 2.5" ide. ICY DOCK MB981U3-1SA 2.5"/3.5" USB 3.0 SATA Docking Station with IDE Adapter - Newegg.com
https://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/

it will auto-grow the partition(s).

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Upgrade the hard drive?
This tutorial needs no purchases. If you mean make a back up of the drive, then we use the free Windows backup of free Macrium, but that is another tutorial, not for the Upgrade install.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/73828-imaging-free-macrium.html#post648001

oops - sorry, not sure what I was thinking, good solution, but for totally different problem unrelated to this thread. this is only for the need to get a bigger hard drive or replace a hard drive. it does backups too, but I don't use it for that.

Defender3 · May 11, 2013

Thanks once again for these instructions. I had a migrating problem with the BSOD related to my Nvida drivers and other issues I never tracked down, as well as 251 shell extensions running. Instead of trying to troubleshoot the problems, I first decided to do a no format, non-destructive repair install to see if that would help. Since the drivers are all retained in the repair, the fix did not resolve the issues. So, I just did a clean install using my upgrade version and this tutorial. It worked like a charm and I'm spending a few hours this rainy morning reinstalling selected programs.

Brink · May 11, 2013

Hello Defender3,

I'm happy to hear that your clean install went well.

swamped · May 24, 2013

Brink said:
swamped said:

So after the completion of #1, I will have already installed the device drivers, and Windows Updates?

Not being picky, I'm just having a hard time wrapping my head around this idea of a double installation process.

Click to expand...

Nope. You would do step 1 in OPTION FOUR to just have a clean install without it being activated, or anything else installed.

Then you would do the upgrade install, activate, and install your drivers, programs, and such.

Brink, I'm back. Haven't done the reinstall yet. My new SSD is arriving today. But in reading through these instructions again I find I don't yet fully understand. Why do you suggest doing the upgrade install after the steps in Number Four? I don't still have Vista on this machine. This is a W7 Upgrade Re-install. The reason I'm doing it is because my system is slow and running out of C drive space. So I'm going from a 75GB SSD to a 256GB SSD. I just want to be very clear in my thinking before I begin. Thanks.

Brink · May 24, 2013

swamped,

I'm happy to hear that your SSD is arriving today.

If you don't do the steps exactly in OPTION FOUR, it may not activate Windows. The upgrade afterwards allows it to be activated properly.

If you get the error in OPTION THREE, then you could also use it to legally activate.

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