Yes I could probably use Snap but with MS snip I probably don't have to add another program to the list. It just is that I like things to work and should not need to add another program. Thanks for the tip and if I continue to have problems I will try snap, I haven't tried snip since I could not make print screen work. I wonder if it is possible to program the top row to something else than what they say? There is a lot of things about windows 7 I don't know about.