File Sharing - Between XP and W7 (and vice versa)

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  1. Posts : 122
    se7en
       #20

    Ty for the response.

    Actually I'm wanting the PC Desktop(XP) be where i'm creating the Network.

    For example heres a scenerio or how I see it in my head.

    Create somekind of wireless connection that has nothing to do with Internet, INTERNET access would not be needed whatsoever for the computers to access the shared files that are being shared on the PC Desktop(XP). All that is being used is a Wireless USB Adapter and PC Desktop running WinXP.

    To connect to this network all someone would have to do is click their Adapter on the bottom right hand side of their screen(Notfication area) click the name of the network then click connect, they will now be able to see the shared Folders and the Computer name on their Device wether it's a PSP PC Laptop Smarth phone, anything that has wifi. They would NOT need to have an account on the computer, they would not need to mess around with their settings, It would be like connecting to a Hotspot to access the internet that has no encryption or security key. I want to be the Hot-Spot. Would this be possible over an Ad-Hoc connection? Anyone can acces it, even if I don't know who it is. All they would need to do is Click the name Of network, Click connect and presto they can view the shared files and computer. The tutorial u showed me would need to have to type in the IP address and watnot. I would like whoever is connection to be able to access the PC Desktop(XP) without needing to do all that, just click and connect.

    FRom wikipedia site:
    WAP: a wireless access point (WAP) is a device that allows wired communication devices to connect to a wireless network using Wi-Fi, Bluetooth or related standards......
    All I have is a Wireless USB Adapter would this be considered a WAP device?

    AD-HOC: An Ad-Hoc network uses a connection between two or more devices without using a wireless access point: the devices communicate directly when in range. An Ad-Hoc network is used in situations such as a quick data exchange or a multiplayer LAN game because setup is easy and does not require an access point.

    This is what I would like to do.

    I've done this, well I think I've created an Ad-Hoc network correctly on the PC Dekstop(XP) since i've played a Multiplater LAN game (Counter-Strike) and it works. But when I try to access the shared folders/files I cannot see them from neither computer. The XP(DESKTOP) doesnt see the laptop nor does the Laptop(Win7) see the desktop.

    Maybe referring the PC Desktop(XP) as a "Hot Spot" was not a goood example since Internet will not be used AT ALL, but something like it where all u do is click on the network and click connect and thats all, sorryif i confused you.

    TY for your time. and PLS help
    Last edited by heaumanepunk; 03 Sep 2010 at 22:49. Reason: clear as i can
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  2. Posts : 122
    se7en
       #21

    It's been a week now and im aggrivatged by this so must you.

    Well I made a New ad-hoc connection from the PC Desktop running WinXP and it succesfully connects, and I am able to play multiplayer LAN game Counter Strike but still cant access files on either Computer to or from.
    I typed in the IP address of both to both computers and tried to connect that way and A Web Browser page popped up saying the page wasnt found or something like that. Why did a web browser page pop up since im not trying to access the internet.
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    Windows 7 Professional, XP professional SP3
       #22

    Tried all online manuals but still can't connect W7 to XP


    I’ve found countless descriptions of how to connect W7 with XP SP3, but none of them work for me.



    Here’s what I’ve done so far:


    1) Set both machines to the same work group. To be safe, chose the name “WORKGROUP”.
    2) Set the network on W7 to be a Home network.
    3) On W7: turned on file and printer sharing, turned on network discovery, turned on sharing so anyone with network access can read and write files in the public folders, turned OFF password protected sharing, enabled file sharing for devices that use 40- or 56- bit encryption.
    4) Turned off all firewalls
    5) Made sure both machines are in 192.168.1.x range and subnet masks match.
    6) Created shares on both machines and tried to connect both ways.
    7) Tried it all again with the W7 network set to Work instead of Home.


    I haven’t even gotten to the point to connecting with the shares, the machines simply don’t seem to ‘see’ each other in the network. Also can’t map any drives directly to \\machinename\sharename


    Here’s the results of my efforts:

    1) Both machines see network activity on IPV4.
    2) Machines can Ping each other!!
    3) After booting, sometimes (but not always!) the W7 machine will ‘see’ the XP machine-name in the network. When I click on it, however, W7 complains about the network path to the XP machine somehow not being available. It suggests that the machine may be switched off. When I try to ask it how it came by the machine’s name in that case, it refuses to go into details.
    4) After running the network setup wizard on the XP machine, it will ‘see’ the W7 machine-name in the network. If I click on that name, however, XP complains that the path does not exist. The W7 machine-name then disappears from the list until I run the wizard again. (Repeat ad-infinitum)

    Lastly, I tried switching from window managed grouping (recommended) to usernames and passwords, but nothing seems to happen. (rebooted all machines after each step, just to be pendantic.)
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  4. Posts : 43
    XP Home 32bit, XP Home(2) 32bit, Ubuntu Meerkat 32bit
       #23

    Giving UP!!


    I have been trying to network between my Windows 7 and XP computers. Both are connected through my Linksys WRT54G router, my Windows 7 PC wired and my XP PC wireless.

    Having used windows from 3.1 to XP SP3, networking continually got much better, especially with XP SP2. However, Windows 7 has digressed back to Windows 95, as far as I am concerned, unless of course, you have the bucks to buy Windows 7 on all machines and replace all older machines with new ones that will take Win7 to use homegroup. I just do not have the thousands of $$'s to do that..

    Anyway, I followed the tutorial above by severedsolo, and still nothing. Prior to that, I actually had the network map on Win 7, showing my Win 7 PC, router, wireless printer and my XP machine. My XP machine had all of Windows 7 shared folders and allowed access to them. However on my Win7 machine, even though I had the XP machine showing, when opening it, I get a 0x80070035 error, advising no network found.

    Then, I get a message to download IE9 which I did and restarted. Now on the W7 map, I don't even get my Win7 machine to show, no less my XP machine. All I get now is my router and wireless printer. But I did somehow get a download for my SoundMax integrated sound system, which I spent a week online and unable to find.

    Anyway, as per the tutorial above, I can ping my XP machine from my W7 machine. But I am at a total loss on getting the 2 to network. Thankfully, I have a dual boot with Win7 and XP on my machine, so I just boot into XP to network with my other XP computer. Some upgrade, Windows 7???
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  5. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #24

    Hi Coastalguy,

    Is Windows 7 set to read your router as a WORK network, and not a Home? Although the two SHOULD work together, often they don't.

    Also, check that the Workgroup name is the same on both Machines. The fact that your XP boot can talk to it suggests to me that you have it incorrectly set up.

    On Windows 7, the default Workgroup name is Workgroup, wheras on XP it is MSHOME
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  6. Posts : 43
    XP Home 32bit, XP Home(2) 32bit, Ubuntu Meerkat 32bit
       #25

    Everything looks ok.


    I followed the tutorial, which I believe was posted by you. I had the workgroup named otherwise, but they were both identical. To be safe, per your tutorial, I renamed them both 'WORKGROUP'. Initially on Win7, I had set it up as a homegroup, until my research advised this was used only between Win7 networks. In this research, they also advised to set up a "work" and not a "home" for networks between Win7 and XP, which is what I did.

    On my seeing Win7's shared folders on XP, I just found that these were mapped shared folders on my XP (dual booted with Win7), so they weren't active. So I just set up another shared folder on Win7, and it immediately appeared on my XP PC, allowing me to display, copy etc. the files in it.

    Still on my Win7, initially when clicking the network icon, I only get my router. Turning on my wireless printer, it immediately appears. However, I still do not even get the Win7 PC, nor the XP PC to display. The only time the Win7 pc displays on the Network and Sharing Center showing the Win7 pc conntected to the router and then to the internet. The full map however, again only shows the router and printer.

    Thanks again,
    Dave
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  7. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #26

    I assume that you have folders shared on the XP machine?

    What happens if you type \\<IP address of XP Machine>\<shared folder name> into the address bar of explorer on the Win 7 machine? does the folder appear?
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  8. Posts : 43
    XP Home 32bit, XP Home(2) 32bit, Ubuntu Meerkat 32bit
       #27

    Address bar


    On IE, I entered \\xp_ip_address\filename\, but nothing happens. I tried http:\\xp_ip_address\filename, and get a not found. Tried it also on Google Chrome with the same results. I tried pinging it again >ping xp_ip_address and get 4 successful readings.

    On the XP machine, this folder does appear under it's network \\xp_computername\filename.

    Thanks again,
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  9. Posts : 3,427
    Windows 10 Pro x64
       #28

    Sorry, I mean Windows Explorer, not IE.

    That is, The Windows File manager, as in the screenshot. The address bar is highlighted.

    Also... may have been a typo on your part. but it is \\<Ip address>\<Shared folder name> NOT the file name :)
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  10. Posts : 43
    XP Home 32bit, XP Home(2) 32bit, Ubuntu Meerkat 32bit
       #29

    Networking


    Yes I did mean the shared folder name, not file name, sorry. New to Win7, so I didn't realize windows explorer had an address bar. Tried it and received "could not find".

    I did get back to where I was before the IE9 download messed me up. I reconnected to homegroup, and then reconnected back to work group, and got back my Win7 and XP PC's displaying again on the network map. In fact, an addition was added to the map, Windows Media Player which I didn't realize was in the network?

    However, trying to open my XP folder icon, I get the error, 0x80070035, Network path not found.

    Tried to set up a map drive letter of the XP shared folder and again received the error that the XP computer network not found.

    Still getting the Win7 shared folder on my XP Network, which opens fine.

    Dave
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