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17 Mar 2009   #1099
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7




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16 Mar 2012   #1100
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sammy888 View Post
BTW, I noticed a bug or lack of a feature in this Windows Mail.

The install with the .bat file was seemless! I would suggest the link to the file be included in the first post. ?
I agree, it's up to Brink our Forum Administrator though.
He has his hands full already with what he does... and it will take time for him to tend to and edit the Tutioral.

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I have several rules set up. I have dozens of folders that I migrated from OE. I have the folder tree closed.

With OE, if any new mail that came in and that was sorted by a rule, the folder will automatically open up. Now, the folder is hidden and I have to open up the main menu of my messages and look down to see which folder has any new email. That's kind of a pain. I guess the only solution is to create a new folder in the local folder?
I don't 'think' that WM ever auto-opened to the subfolder that a rule-sent message went in to it, or any message? I can see where it would be handy if you have other rules acting as identities to put mail in it.

The only thing WM, Will Do, is if you put your send-to rule entering the 'top level' of a new local folder, that folder will Bold itself when a new unread message arrives in it, the same happened on OE too, but note though neither OE nor WM will Bold the 'first level folder' if it's sent to a sub-folder of it, but going into that first level folder then yes you will see that subfolder will be in bold.

Now I've used OE since the begining and I've never seen it open folders when mail arrived in it? ..that's not to say yours does not, mine never did and looking through the Options on an xp OE box next to me right now, I don't see any options to do that? ...let us know where that option is please I'm curious. My Layout is unique though so maybe I dampened that from happening by my layout preferences. At least the folder the email goes into Bolds itself though. Perhaps you meant the Preview Pane which lets the email message text show upon arrival? I enjoy that feature myself; all previous OE version did that and of course so does WM.


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20 Mar 2012   #1101
PeterM42

Windows 7
 
 
Windows (7) Mail

Mark,

Many thanks for that. Great post!

This was driving me mad as "Windows LIVE Mail" is dreadful and other options such as using Thunderbird, etc just don't come close to Outlook Express/Windows (6/7) Mail.

It would save a lot of heartache is MS just re-enabled Windows Mail in Windows 7.

Just a thought - presumably we will have the same problem in Windows 8 - AAAAGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!

Regards,

PeterM
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27 Mar 2012   #1102
Trillium

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

I have been following the threads and tutorials on Reinstating Windows Mail on Windows 7 forever. Just a quick request for HELP! as I am in no ways computer literate at all. Do I need to have a program to unzip a file? I am going to try EKMANTIS batch file to try and install WM on my new Windows 7 computer and I don't understand zip files at all. Endeavors post #1160 mentions something about "Windows Mail missing from the default program" and a registry entry. He'd asked Brink to look at this and incorporate it in the first step of the long tutorial. If I just use EKMantis batch file should I go into the registry (whatever that is) and type that in?
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27 Mar 2012   #1103
Brink
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

Hello Trillium, and welcome to Seven Forums.

Personally, I would not recommend anyone to use Windows Mail anymore since it's dead and not supported by Microsoft anymore.

I would recommend to use another email client program like the free Windows Live Mail or Thunderbird instead.
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27 Mar 2012   #1104
Trillium

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Thanks for the welcome Brink. I know this topic is dead in the water - but I really wanted to try to use Windows Mail and install it myself. My impression after following the original postings under "How to Reinstate Windows Mail on Windows 7" (some 144 pages worth) and this link (117 pages) that some people have been successful. I personally don't care if WM is no longer supported - I don't want to go to "Live" anything. I was simply trying to save myself some big bucks that was quoted to me for a computer expert to come and do the installation.
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28 Mar 2012   #1105
Donz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Trillium,

If it's a new computer, be shure to do all windows updates including service pack 1, before you run the batch file.
Otherwise you will probably have trouble installing SP-1 as I did with a friends computer. I ended up doing a total reinstall of 7.
Also before running the batch file, and after all updates, I would suggest you create a system image file in the event you have to reload in the future
It's still very uncertain what will happen when SP-2 comes along.

I'm running WM, and really like it.

Don
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28 Mar 2012   #1106
Trillium

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Thanks Donz - it's a brand new laptop running Windows 7 and it has SP1 already installed. I have made recovery disks as per the manual and created a system image file. Endeavors post #1160 mentions something about "Windows Mail missing from the default program" and a registry entry. He'd asked Brink to look at this and incorporate it in the first step of the long tutorial. If I just use EKMantis batch file should I go into the registry (whatever that is) and type that in?
Did you have to do that as well?
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28 Mar 2012   #1107
Donz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64
 
 

Trillium,

I really don't understand the missing from default comments.

I have WM, WLM, and Thunderbird all loaded, and have no problems.

WM does seem to be the default fo me. When I rt-click a .jpg, and select Send To, Mail recipient, it opens WM.
Also in WM if I go to Tools, Options, under the general tab there is a selection for Default mail and for news handlers.
My 'Mail" button is greyed out, probably because it's the default.

I also show all 3 email programs listed in Default Programs.

I did my install before the batch file was available.

Don
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28 Mar 2012   #1108
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

Trillium, the fact that you are asking what to do with a zip file is concerning, meaning, if you don't understand that how will you be able to do or understand the rest of the process - and I don't mean that in a disrespectful way at all, honestly.

I do understand Brinks point about moving on to a new email client that's 'supported' is warranted...for most people; However for those who have the capability, and still want to use the Outlook Express style that they grew up all their computer life with, well then that's fine too, just so long as they realize any limitations that go along with doing that. (for some they consider them minor limitations, but overall give personal preference advantages ...at this point in time anyway)

As far as that registry key you're referencing, that one point is minuscule in the overall scope of things, and only arises when someone has installed a few different email programs at the same time and conflicts between which program is default 'may arise' and has for a few people. Donz as you saw had good luck, and it's impressive he uses WM, WLM, and Thunderbird at the same time.

To your other question, Windows 7 comes with a built in zip file extractor which you will see if you right-click on that zip file, it will give you an option to unzip/decompress it.

Yes all you will need to do is run the bat file which takes care of 'some' of the Tutorial processes, there's a bit more to it, however! also realize all the other normal procedures of setting up an email account that you have to do manually as with any other email client that you're installing fresh without importing informatons. There are plenty of webpages out there on how to do that.

You're on your own here really. I almost advise you against it myself, in fact I do.

If you choose to go forward, don't do anything unless you full backup/restore capabilities.
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28 Mar 2012   #1109
Trillium

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
 
 

Donz and Endeavor. Thank you both so much for your input. I think I may just try to do the install - (nothing ventured, nothing gained). With my current isp I can access my mail from any computer which is somehow linked to Windows Live. I hate the set-up and how it looks, but it is an option. I also have G-mail and I could go that route as well. Since my current laptop runs Vista and has Windows Mail, I can use that for my e-mail and just go Windows Live Mail on my new computer. Again, thanks for everything.
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