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17 Mar 2009   #1129
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7



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21 Apr 2012   #1130
stephengca

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dezent View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Orbital Shark View Post
Hi Dezent, welcome to the forums.

You could try Windows Live mail that comes with Live Essentials. Just a thought
Solved it in another way

Thanks guys!
Care to share?

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22 Apr 2012   #1131
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by EKMantis View Post
Hey, I made a batch file of the fix on your page since I plan to use it on a lot of computers. I have attached the zip with the batch files (and other necessary components) if you wanted to add them to your page for people that want an easy fix. Pretty self-explanatory. Thanks for the great fix!

*EDIT All you need to run is "winmail32.bat" for a 32bit installation, or "winmail64.bat" for a 64bit installation. The rest of the files are just there for the batch file to use.
Did I miss something? I did the winmail64.bat but then was expecting to find the WinMail Shortcut on my desk top. It's not there so do I need to go back to instructions on pg. 1 & do more?

Thank you.
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24 Apr 2012   #1132
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

Hi grits,

This project is sort of self-serve these days, and so you need to be willing to do the legwork yourself. Yes I realize there's no simple way for you to know what the ..bat file does and does not do unless you are computer savvy.

Yes you have to make the shortcut yourself,

Go back and read page 1 and do the few things the bat file didn't do for you, one of which is the shortcut and so Read "#4. Manually show hidden files" so that you can find WinMail.exe and send shortcut to Desktop, and from there you can also copy that to where ever else you want, I put it in my QuickLaunch just like it used to be, but that there's another subject too.

As for #3 there ..per your pm, answered here, fwiw, the winmail64.bat did #3 already replacing the 64 bit msoe.dll in your appropriate folder. Yes I agree, I like WinMail (OE similar) better than all the rest too.
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25 Apr 2012   #1133
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I did the 'show hidden, etc., then found the WinMail.exe & sent to desktop but when I clicked on nothing happened. So went back to Windows Mail folder & 'Restored Defaults' because at that point I threw up my hands & decided I'm just not savvy. As much as I hate to, guess I'll have to resort to WLM but from some things I've read, will try to find version 2009.
Thanks for trying.
oh, just for the heck of it will attach shot of what I ended up with after opening the batch.


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26 Apr 2012   #1134
tangentjohn

Windows 7RC
 
 

Sounds like you sent winmail.exe to your desktop? You send a SHORTCUT to it to your desktop. The exe file must reside right where it is to work.
Right click it> create shortcut> then send the shortcut to your desk top. Should work.
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26 Apr 2012   #1135
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I'm sorry I got you so flustered. I'm flustered myself because it sounded sooo easy & yet I managed to mess up. Can we start over?


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
I'm not sure why you are showing us a screenshot of the files contained within the zip file??? which is not relevant to anything, it's just files that were in the zip file, but yet you say it's what you end up with after opening the batch? ..none of this makes any sense sorry.

Guess I thought you should see it?


I'm not sure what you mean you did either by saying you restored defaults.
#4.Manually show hidden files . . .last sentence says to restore view defaults?

For heavens sake, the process of enabling the already existing WinMail in Windows 7 is so blessed easy... and you think by installing any other version of a different email client like WLM is going to make things work better for you...?
You're so close just one click away from having it work, but give up because of, why...? If you can't do this how are you even going to install another email client? Now you have me wondering from what you say in your first post about "I did the winmail64.bat" I'm wondering what did you do with it.

So what is the 'one click'? And I'm assuming that's after I do step #4.Manually show hidden,etc.?
I have in the past installed & set up other email clients.
In my 'Downloads Folder' I have the 'zip folder for the batch file'

No wonder why Brink doesn't want to take over this project <g>

Sorry if I'm being impatient..
I can't blame you.
I hope you don't have too much problem sorting out this post, I really wasn't sure how to answer you & use your quote at the same time, sorry.
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27 Apr 2012   #1136
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

Dear Grits,
I see you have my post quoted and intermingled with your answer inside of one quote..<sigh>

Quote:
#4.Manually show hidden files . . .last sentence says to restore view defaults?
The only thing that does grits is let you see or not see files on your computer which their properties are set hidden is all - when you set it back to default it's not restoring all the changes you've made with WinMail, this setting is only of esthetic value. I have always left hidden files showing and much prefer it that way. I guess perhaps it confuses people and that's why Mark wrote to put it back to default if one wanted to, but it certainly does not affect the operation of anything one way or the other, it's only a visual, esthetic, or appearance thing however you want to say it. The point is here that when MS decided to not release WM with 7, they just set the files hidden, and so that's why you have to unhide them in this particular exercise to work with them.
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So what is the 'one click'?
I'm sorry, I have used that term just as an analogy is all, but really, my one click point is similar to the time it took me to type the first paragraph of this post is how long it takes to run the correct .bat file, and find the correct WinMail.exe to run so that the email program will open for you to go forward - it's that simple really, and so all these paragraph of words is essentially making it more complicated. I guess the understanding of written words when trying to explain something to someone else can complicate things. Also the fact that we now have a .bat file to automate most (but not all) of the page 1 tutorial makes it more complicated for 'first timers' to decipher what's what, that's why we asked Brink to step in and take over Mark's, Poppa Bear, Greg S, Ex_Brit, & Others, Project, and maybe rewrite the tutorial to include the automation now; but having said that I certainly don't blame him/them if they don't want to and understand why, although really wish someone would consider it. However the simplicity yet complexity of this project just takes too much time to tend to though, especially considering as each day that goes by there will be less and less people even interested in pursuing this project, and at some point in time it Will have to come to an end.

For myself, and I'm sure many others, I will use WinMail till the year 2020+ or whenever I switch to a new OS...
I love using WinMail ! ...and I love using the Newsgroup aspect of it too, aamof, here's a Screenshot of my WM gui shown opened to a random newsgroup post. Or here's a Screenshot of just the local folders Outbox gui.
The fact that I don't need to install yet another separate email client on 7, but just activate one that's already there, appeals to me, not to mention the fact that I've used Outlook Express since it was developed back in what.. 1996? ...I'm just used to it, heck I still have the same wife too <g>


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27 Apr 2012   #1137
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

You snuck in to make an edit while I was making myself some final notes so I could re-try this again. As long as you seem to be around, let me run this by you: I need to do the manual #4 step then just go back to where I have the batch file & run the winmail64.
If you look at 'My System Specs' I do have 64bit.
"Thanks" for being so patient & understanding.
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27 Apr 2012   #1138
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

grits I was only talking about being aware of the information in the # 4 "Footnotes Section" and referencing that screenshot showing the 32 bit (x86) program folder or the 64 bit one so that you don't mix them up, I wasn't talking about the first #4 section, but in either case the .bat file does that all for you anyway, iow, if you were to edit and look at the bat file it has provisions to set that WinMail.exe visible anyway, it sets ownerships, swaps out the correct msoe.dll etc...

Yes you can run the .bat file again if for some reason you didn't do it right in the first place? ..it doesn't really matter how many times you run it since it will just keep rewriting the same information.

It's been a while since I've needed to go over the 'manual procedures' and so hope I haven't missed anything concerning your 64 bit install, but after you ran the correct bat file which in your case it's the winmail64.bat which you can even right click it and run as administrator, then pretty much all you have to do is start the WinMail.exe 'from its 64 bit folder' not the 32 (or Send To Desktop it's shortcut and do it) ..and then after WinMail opens you set up your mail client as usual.

The bat file is just an alternative easy one-click install for steps 1 thru 4 including footnotes. ...of course to transfer/import Contacts, Accounts, Emails, etc, from a previous installation that will have to all be done manually following tutorial steps 5 & 6, there's no way around that.

Good Luck


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29 Apr 2012   #1139
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

I must have something messed up somewhere in my machine, just tried it again & no go, don't have the WinMail.exe now.
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