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New #1131
Hi grits,
This project is sort of self-serve these days, and so you need to be willing to do the legwork yourself. Yes I realize there's no simple way for you to know what the ..bat file does and does not do unless you are computer savvy.
Yes you have to make the shortcut yourself,
Go back and read page 1 and do the few things the bat file didn't do for you, one of which is the shortcut and so Read "#4. Manually show hidden files" so that you can find WinMail.exe and send shortcut to Desktop, and from there you can also copy that to where ever else you want, I put it in my QuickLaunch just like it used to be, but that there's another subject too.
As for #3 there ..per your pm, answered here, fwiw, the winmail64.bat did #3 already replacing the 64 bit msoe.dll in your appropriate folder. Yes I agree, I like WinMail (OE similar) better than all the rest too.
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New #1132
I did the 'show hidden, etc., then found the WinMail.exe & sent to desktop but when I clicked on nothing happened. So went back to Windows Mail folder & 'Restored Defaults' because at that point I threw up my hands & decided I'm just not savvy. As much as I hate to, guess I'll have to resort to WLM but from some things I've read, will try to find version 2009.
Thanks for trying.
oh, just for the heck of it will attach shot of what I ended up with after opening the batch.
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New #1133
Sounds like you sent winmail.exe to your desktop? You send a SHORTCUT to it to your desktop. The exe file must reside right where it is to work.
Right click it> create shortcut> then send the shortcut to your desk top. Should work.
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New #1134
I'm sorry I got you so flustered.
I'm flustered myself because it sounded sooo easy & yet I managed to mess up. Can we start over? :)
I can't blame you.
I hope you don't have too much problem sorting out this post, I really wasn't sure how to answer you & use your quote at the same time, sorry.
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New #1135
Dear Grits,
I see you have my post quoted and intermingled with your answer inside of one quote..<sigh>
The only thing that does grits is let you see or not see files on your computer which their properties are set hidden is all - when you set it back to default it's not restoring all the changes you've made with WinMail, this setting is only of esthetic value. I have always left hidden files showing and much prefer it that way. I guess perhaps it confuses people and that's why Mark wrote to put it back to default if one wanted to, but it certainly does not affect the operation of anything one way or the other, it's only a visual, esthetic, or appearance thing however you want to say it. The point is here that when MS decided to not release WM with 7, they just set the files hidden, and so that's why you have to unhide them in this particular exercise to work with them.#4.Manually show hidden files . . .last sentence says to restore view defaults?
I'm sorry, I have used that term just as an analogy is all, but really, my one click point is similar to the time it took me to type the first paragraph of this post is how long it takes to run the correct .bat file, and find the correct WinMail.exe to run so that the email program will open for you to go forward - it's that simple really, and so all these paragraph of words is essentially making it more complicated. I guess the understanding of written words when trying to explain something to someone else can complicate things. Also the fact that we now have a .bat file to automate most (but not all) of the page 1 tutorial makes it more complicated for 'first timers' to decipher what's what, that's why we asked Brink to step in and take over Mark's, Poppa Bear, Greg S, Ex_Brit, & Others, Project, and maybe rewrite the tutorial to include the automation now; but having said that I certainly don't blame him/them if they don't want to and understand why, although really wish someone would consider it. However the simplicity yet complexity of this project just takes too much time to tend to though, especially considering as each day that goes by there will be less and less people even interested in pursuing this project, and at some point in time it Will have to come to an end.So what is the 'one click'?
For myself, and I'm sure many others, I will use WinMail till the year 2020+ or whenever I switch to a new OS...
I love using WinMail ! ...and I love using the Newsgroup aspect of it too, aamof, here's a Screenshot of my WM gui shown opened to a random newsgroup post. Or here's a Screenshot of just the local folders Outbox gui.
The fact that I don't need to install yet another separate email client on 7, but just activate one that's already there, appeals to me, not to mention the fact that I've used Outlook Express since it was developed back in what.. 1996? ...I'm just used to it, heck I still have the same wife too <g>
.Last edited by endeavor; 02 May 2012 at 08:47. Reason: brief
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New #1136
You snuck in to make an edit while I was making myself some final notes so I could re-try this again. As long as you seem to be around, let me run this by you: I need to do the manual #4 step then just go back to where I have the batch file & run the winmail64.
If you look at 'My System Specs' I do have 64bit.
"Thanks" for being so patient & understanding.
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New #1137
grits I was only talking about being aware of the information in the # 4 "Footnotes Section" and referencing that screenshot showing the 32 bit (x86) program folder or the 64 bit one so that you don't mix them up, I wasn't talking about the first #4 section, but in either case the .bat file does that all for you anyway, iow, if you were to edit and look at the bat file it has provisions to set that WinMail.exe visible anyway, it sets ownerships, swaps out the correct msoe.dll etc...
Yes you can run the .bat file again if for some reason you didn't do it right in the first place? ..it doesn't really matter how many times you run it since it will just keep rewriting the same information.
It's been a while since I've needed to go over the 'manual procedures' and so hope I haven't missed anything concerning your 64 bit install, but after you ran the correct bat file which in your case it's the winmail64.bat which you can even right click it and run as administrator, then pretty much all you have to do is start the WinMail.exe 'from its 64 bit folder' not the 32 (or Send To Desktop it's shortcut and do it) ..and then after WinMail opens you set up your mail client as usual.
The bat file is just an alternative easy one-click install for steps 1 thru 4 including footnotes. ...of course to transfer/import Contacts, Accounts, Emails, etc, from a previous installation that will have to all be done manually following tutorial steps 5 & 6, there's no way around that.
Good Luck
.Last edited by endeavor; 29 Apr 2012 at 09:57.
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New #1138
I must have something messed up somewhere in my machine, just tried it again & no go, don't have the WinMail.exe now.
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New #1139
grits it has to be something sooo blessed simple there, geeeze!
I'm not able to see what your fingers are actually clicking, or what you are really doing..
If you want to, go back to the first page and do "#4. Manually show hidden files"
...do what it says there (except the last line don't restore default view settings this time) ...but when you're done in the few seconds this should take, you should be able to instantly see the WinMail.exe in its folder now!!! ...as well if you have already run the .bat file, the WinMail.exe properties should be A instead of HSA
Now, what do you see after you do #4 ?
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