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17 Mar 2009   #1209
Slartybart

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
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Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7




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02 May 2012   #1210
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

oh boy, now I'm confused & 'torn between the devil and the deep' . . . . which would be best for a dummy like me, should I try the SubInAcl & then the batch again or do the page 1 tutorial? And by the way, whichever way I go, should I undo, delete, or whatever, what I have already done to/in my machine before I start something else?
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02 May 2012   #1211
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by grits View Post
oh boy, now I'm confused & 'torn between the devil and the deep' . . . . which would be best for me, should I try the SubInAcl & then the batch again or do the page 1 tutorial? And by the way, whichever way I go, should I undo, delete, or whatever, what I have already done to/in my machine before I start something else?

If I were you at your level I would use the Tutorial yes, it does the exact same thing anyway, it's also easy to do, and at this point in time it has been more used and therefore more proven, and I'm hoping others will be more willing to step in and help you with using it if you have more questions.

There is no reason to undo anything you have done, it's all the same, just accomplished in a different way.

There will be those that will want you to move on to a current email client too, and I must say those reasons have merit and are valid !!! ...even though I and many others have chosen a different path to use WM.

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02 May 2012   #1212
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Thanks again, it might take me all day tho' 'cuz I keep getting interrupted by phone calls, we're in the middle of planning my Grand Daughter's 30th birthday party.

Yes, I'm aware of being told to move on but at this point I've got my mind made up to keep trying a bit more. I'm kind of a stubborn ole granny sometimes.
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02 May 2012   #1213
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Wow, I think that was the scariest operation I've ever done on a PC & still not get the job done. That's exactly why I went with the batch method. I guess my level is even lower than I thought.

I may have goofed even more, after still not getting anything to happen when double clicking on desk top short cut, I did System Restore to several days back but still have some of what I got from the page 1 tutorial. "Don't ask me, I'm lost!!"
I think part of my confusion is that during the tutorial, it states 'save to desk top', which I always did with my XP but Windows 7 never gives me that option so the downloads went to My Docs & being the bonehead I am just made things confusing I guess. Like I said, I'm at such a low level that I shouldn't even be sitting here wasting anyone's time.
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04 May 2012   #1214
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

scariest operation you ever done? ..for heavens sake that tutorial process is just copying a few files and a few minor adjustments.

There was no need to do a restore, for what reason? none! ..restore is for big mess ups like installing large programs that you change your mind on or for something that totally messes up your computer! The tasks on the first page tutorial is just copying a few files and a few minor adjustments.

There is no 'save to desktop' event on the the first page tutorial that I see not that it matters, nevertheless, when downloading/saving whatever file it does not matter if you save it to the downloads folder or the desktop, the desktop sometimes can be more convenient is all, and from there you copy the file to where ever you want. This next tidbit although irrelevant, is that on 7 like your XP you can download to your desktop if you want by when the little box appears at the bottom of the page to save a file, click the down arrow on it and click Save As, and here another box comes up and gives you a choice to browse the download location to your desktop, but again this tip is irrelevant to the tutorial task at hand.

All the answers are there to do it manually on the first page and beyond, but if you want to give up then so be it... I don't see how you are going to install the newer WLM and set it up if you can't even do this.
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07 May 2012   #1215
Slartybart

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
Penn's Forest
 
 

This may have been noted elsewhere in the tutorial, but I didn't see it. Anyway - these are minor issues.

The WinEditMail.zip file contains a registry file that helps reinstate Windows Mail.
I perused it before running and found two things that I changed.
  • The recently used addresses
  • Rules - they are German in the file, I changed them to English
The reg file used to change these two is shown below.
Again - these are minor and might have been noted elsewhere.

Quote:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

; --------------------------------
; Remove MRU Addrs - WinMail
; --------------------------------
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Recently Used Addresses]
"MRUList"=""
"a"=-
"b"=-
"c"=-
"d"=-

; --------------------------------
; Change German to English
; --------------------------------
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFA]
"Name"=-"Alle Nachrichten anzeigen"
"Name"="All news"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFB]
"Name"=-"Gelesene Nachrichten ausblenden"
"Name"="Hide read messages"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFC]
"Name"=-"Heruntergeladene Nachrichten anzeigen"
"Name"="Downloaded messages"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFF]
"Name"=-"Ignorierte/gelesene Nachrichten ausbl."
"Name"="Ignored / read messages"
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08 May 2012   #1216
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

@endeavor, I haven't given up, just had to give my mind & body abit of a break, have a couple health issues that I was over taxing. Also need to study up some & see if I can try to understand where I went wrong sooo many times in this process. I tried again & failed on Sun. 5/6.

Thanks again.
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08 May 2012   #1217
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
This may have been noted elsewhere in the tutorial, but I didn't see it. Anyway - these are minor issues.

The WinEditMail.zip file contains a registry file that helps reinstate Windows Mail.
I perused it before running and found two things that I changed.
  • The recently used addresses
  • Rules - they are German in the file, I changed them to English
The reg file used to change these two is shown below.

Again - these are minor and might have been noted elsewhere.

Quote:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

; --------------------------------
; Remove MRU Addrs - WinMail
; --------------------------------
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Recently Used Addresses]
"MRUList"=""
"a"=-
"b"=-
"c"=-
"d"=-

; --------------------------------
; Change German to English
; --------------------------------
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFA]
"Name"=-"Alle Nachrichten anzeigen"
"Name"="All news"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFB]
"Name"=-"Gelesene Nachrichten ausblenden"
"Name"="Hide read messages"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFC]
"Name"=-"Heruntergeladene Nachrichten anzeigen"
"Name"="Downloaded messages"

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Rules\Filter\FFF]
"Name"=-"Ignorierte/gelesene Nachrichten ausbl."
"Name"="Ignored / read messages"


Hi Slartybart,
Interesting and good catch in your perusing...
The issue though with you removing your a, b, c, d like that because if it's after the fact and you do it, it removes only the current placeholder of that key, iow, if in WM one had emailed with numerous people after the original reg merge and then you delete those 4 keys "a"=- thru "d"=- with your reg ...you're only removing the current placeholder since the others may have moved down the a-z list in their respective order. The correct way to remove them after the fact is to manually do it from your registry. Any new users that install WinMail from now on and use the new WinMailEdit.reg I've attached to this post will not have this problem. I've also removed the dozen redundant "Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00" entries that were scattered within since we only need one at the beginning!

Also Slartybart on your Change German to English ditty, nice peruse btw, but it is to know that even if you merged it originally with the German text like it was, Windows 7 'will' revert it to English after a WM restart anyway, confirmed, and so there is no need for you to change it like you have. Actually after testing it I've found out that even if you typed in complete gibberish in those \FFA \FFB \FFC \FFF registry keys and merged it, and it appears to take, however the next time you open WinMail it automatically reverts to what was hardcoded from MS. At first yes I did think it mattered, but after actually testing it showed me it does not matter what text is put in those particular keys, it will be reverted. I've edited my post.

Anyway fwiw besides the "Recently Used Addresses" entries noted but also the German text entries too, both of which seemed to have been introduced in 2009 on post 159 and then later mirrored in post 292, but it does not matter at all though who inadvertently included these minor issues since we're just appreciative for Everyone's hard work on this entire project over the years, thanks to everyone for that.

Attached is a revised/updated WinMailEdit.reg with these changes above fixed which includes having changed the German to English text entries (even if only for visual reg esthetic value), and also have removed many of someone's personal email addresses value data store from the auto-complete address store key "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Recently Used Addresses" that was inadvertently introduced by the source in the beginning of this project that the links above point to; fyi, you don't see their addresses while editing the original WinMailEdit.reg file unless you convert the data, otherwise you can see it pop up as you type within the "To:" field of your email and you just happen to start with their name ..anyway those emails all have been removed now as it should be. Also has been added the registry change from post 1160 which found the problem since 2009 for some users that had Windows Mail missing from the default programs listing and they could not set Windows Mail as the Default Mail Program - the registry entry to fix that problem is now included in this revised WinMailEdit.reg...

This should now be used in place of the first page tutorial one, or in the EKMantis automated download, in both cases just replace those WinMailEdit.reg files with this one attached below.

WinMailEdit.reg
(Removed Attachment since it's now included in the new tutorial)

Last edited by endeavor; 17 May 2012 at 10:04 AM.. Reason: Removed Attachment since it's now included in the new tutorial
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12 May 2012   #1218
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Was hoping to post 'yippie,got it done' because last evening while just looking through different areas of my PC I came across Windows Mail listed in the Set Default Programs in Control Panel but was too tired at that point to concentrate so put off until this morning. So I figured (wrongly of course) the first thing to do before I even click on the Windows Mail short cut still on desktop from my last several tries, would be to go ahead & set it as default but then when I went back to desktop the short cut was gone!, as were a couple or so other areas that I'd seen it listed.
Again am too beat to concentrate on going any farther right now so will get back to it in morning.
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12 May 2012   #1219
Sammy888

Windows 7
 
 

My windows mail works now, yippee. lol
Is the junk mail settings rendered impotent? Even though I select the mail is not junk mail, it still moves it to it. I know I can create a rule as a workaround.
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