Windows 7: Windows Mail

I'm fairly certain that "not junk mail" is a per item function. You either need to add the sender to your contacts, safe sender's list, or, as you said, build a rule.

I know safe sender's list is present after you reinstate WinMail. You can see the list in Junk Mail options, l, but I'm not sure if it is functional.

Peace!

This post is an archive of the previous version of the tutorial written by Poppa Bear whuch was used as the base for current version written by Slartybart. The current version of the tutorial incorporates and supersedes all information provided before Post# 1230.

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1. Download and run the attachment: WinMailEdit.zip.

   Warning

It is critical to do this before carrying out steps (3) & (4). This auto exe file edits the registry to allow .eml files to be opened on the desktop; removes the WinMail splash screen at start-up; and resolves various conflicts.

2. Remove WinMail.exe attributes to view hidden files.

A) Open: Start Menu ==> All Programs ==> Accessories ==> Run.

B) Type the following code exactly as shown, (or highlight, copy and paste it), into the Run Command box; and then click "OK":

Code:

attrib -s -h "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe"

3. In Windows Mail folder, take full control of the file "msoe.dll" as follows.

   Warning

If running 64bit Windows 7, before carrying out this step, read "Footnote 3" below.

A) Download and install Take Ownership to add it.

B) Open: Start Orb ==> Computer ==> C: Drive ==> Program Files ==> Windows Mail folder ==> Right click: "msoe.dll" file ==> In drop down menu click: Take Ownership.

*Note 1: If WinMail.exe file is not visible in Windows Mail folder, then apply "Footnote 4" below.

*Note 2: Before proceeding to Step 4, copy and save "msoe.dll" file as back-up for safety.

4. Download and save the appropriate Vista Windows Mail "msoe.dll" file from the following attachments:

• 32bit msoe.dll:

• 64bit msoe.dll:

A) Open Windows Mail Folder in Windows 7 Program files ==> Paste the Vista "msoe.dll" into it, replacing the existing Windows 7 "msoe.dll".

*Note: If it will not allow the paste, take full control of the Windows 7 "msoe.dll" manually as per "Footnote 1" below, and then paste.

B) Right click: WinMail.exe ==> Send to desktop as a shortcut.

*Note: If email .eml files still cannot be opened on the desktop, it may be necessary to manually edit the registry as per "Footnote 2"

5. To enable Windows Calendar in Windows Mail.

Go to tutorial in this forum.

6. To import Contacts, Accounts, Folders & Emails.

From Vista to Windows 7, go to this post.

On the main WM GUI (not an email GUI) you go to the top tab of Tools> Junk E-mail Options> and in here you have many settings you can make - and so check all the many different settings within all tabs in there to see if anything is your problem. I personally have mine checkmarked on the first first tab and first selection which is to Turn it Off, but your needs may vary.

One of a number of caveats using WM on 7 is that you are not 'automatically' able to update the junk filter definitions anyway and so they are old as it is, nevertheless the original ones will still follow the mindset of its time period if you have it turned on. I personally just leave it on Off.

Hi Slartybart,

Hey thanks for the work and willing to be of help, thanks.

Just a couple of things as I look things over, if you're open to discussion?

~If you want to fix an 'inactive' typo - search for mso32 in your xtra3264wm.bat
~also in it, search .\subinacl ...what purpose is the .\ ?

~I see what you're thinking with your xtra3264wm.bat, I just don't think ? that 64 also uses the 32 version msoe.dll in it's own folder too?...but I understand your thought. Maybe ask someone who has Windows7 64 bit to delete the msoe.dll out of their 86 folder and see if it still starts...? (...you set it HSA so the norm won't see it, not many are norm here though and can get quite curious <g>)

~ just some coffeetable tidbit talk, I've not yet had to unblock a file on 7 Pro or Ultimate, but perhaps in the Home versions of 7 with their security settings the way they are, you need to? ..Pretty sure there is an automatic batch entry you can make to unblock for them "if appropriate" Unblock files (Batch Process) ...but in either case both issues make it more complex. I see Brink has a topic on unblocking too... I wish I had a Home version around so I could check some things like that, as well since grits has the Home version, specifically if the Home version has problems with permissions and perhaps needs to install SubInACL.exe to get on with it.

~ a tidbit on tut, when reading Tut Offline, concerning "cd %USERPROFILE%\Downloads\Tut_ReWinMail\" ...the way you have those lines highlighted prevents a 'copy' on it, the point is for a newbie to type in those commands by hand without making a mistake is a tall order, whereas using the online post itself you can copy/paste into the command box ...just talkin outloud tryin to be helpful is all since you included the Tut in the zip, someone will be more likely to use/read that, rather than your actual post which there you can copy... but speaking of all that though.. ..You know, thinking, as it was originally intended, it might be Easier to have them just double click the ..bat itself, that way there's no entering in all this info, just d-click the ..bat and go...?

~I see you redid all the bats to help while it runs to be more informative in what it's doing, you spent some time doing that. <smile>

Thanks endeavor for still keeping me in mind . Darn, I wish I understood the posts between you & Slartybart .

And I wish there was someone running Home Premium that had success using the batch by EKMantis that would come on board so I'd 'maybe' get a better idea as to whether it's maybe not just that I'm illiterate, maybe something with the way my machine is set? One reason I wonder is that while I was reading the above posts I left the machine for several minutes to take a phone call & when I came back, my screen was black like normal after setting idol for a bit, but this time it took me several tries of moving my mouse before it 'woke up' to the screen so I could post. Actually, I really do wonder if I have something set wrong in IE9 but that's for a different forum.

When I decide to try Slarty's new batch, should I first delete all the folders & files I still have from EKMantis batch? For one thing I'm such an airhead that I'd be afraid of getting mixed up as to who's who. Also wondering if either of you read my post # 1221 & if you know why that happened?

Also, if I remember right, it seems like over the past several days that any folder/file where I click 'Properties', just under 'Open', it says 'Take Ownership'. Does that mean that I was further along in the Mantis batch than I realized?
S'cuse me, I'm probably not making any sense here & am going to have to skip things for today at least, I had to double up on one of my meds & am kinda (more than normal) foggy headed. Will check back tomorrow. Besides that it kinda looks like you 2 are still ironing out a couple things.
Thanks again to both endeavor & Slartybart.

Hi endeavor,
Nope, I still have no desire to install WLM. I see reference to it & all the other 'Live' stuff all thru my PC & have been half tempted to somehow get rid of all of it.

I just realized another oops that I hadn't thought about in my other tries at this & probably best give some serious thought to: I don't have anything for 'imaging' & have only done 1 back up, (just using whatever came with PC) & that was about a month after I bought it. I just never got in the habit of doing it but will have to change that even tho' "it's hard to teach an old dog new tricks".

I have Eudora right now as my email program but not really satisfied with it.

I'm kinda jumping around here .... another thing that confuses me & might have been one of my problems before is not knowing whether I should 'click', 'dbl click', or 'right click', guess I better study up on that too. So. . . . guess I won't get too carried away with Slarty's way until I bone up on simple computer-eze. (don't know if that's a real word)

Hi Slartybart,

Yes, "Thank you" for coming to this forum with some new info. I was about to tear my hair out over my sooo many failed attempts at something that was supposed to be so simple! Of course that's my fault for trying to jump in to do something when I don't even know so many basics of computer use. (boy, I sure use the word 'so' a lot)
Anyway. . . I'll be back but need to study a bit in between my trips out to mow, water, etc. That migt give you & endeavor more time to iron out some things.

Okay I see the problem with grits.. dam it, I should of noticed that before...

I was focusing on all the errors within her cmd box screenshot which were:
subinacl' is not recognized as an internal or external command operable program or batch file
...as well as the other ones...

But The problem is what kind of cmd box was she in !!!
As you can see if you look at it (staring me right in the face) it was Not As Administrator! ..and so therefore she had the subinacl error for one thing even though she had the subinacl.exe right there in her folder, and since she is not running as Admin a right click and run as Admin is not going to work at all, thus her errors - she must be coming from C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe in order to have a chance..

Also perhaps you just want to have your zip named 1.zip, that way it's easier to type:
cd %USERPROFILE%\Downloads\1

You see what I'm getting at, something/anything/everything to make it easier.

(grits I can feel it, your time to open WinMail is near, and sorry I didn't catch that issue mentioned earlier. Don't worry about your questions you asked just yet, and don't worry about a partition imager I was only talking to Slarty)

Dang, every time I come here thinking I'll finally do Slarty's thing, I see you two are still working on it . I really,really appreciate it tho' that you're trying to make it easy.! You guys "Rock" !!! Probably best if I quit reading what's back & forth between you two & just be patient another day or so 'cuz most of it is over my head & I'm probably mis-reading some of it anyway. btw, I have done copy/paste before but maybe what you're talking about is different for some reason?

Gotta scoot for now, more yard work to do.
Thanks again guys , pretty soon we can