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17 Mar 2009   #1239
Slartybart

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How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7




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19 May 2012   #1240
Slartybart

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
Penn's Forest
 
 

Grits,

I'm not sure what you wrote in your PM to endeavor, but I'll try to address some things I do see. I think you can the desktop.ini because the original tut directed you to change your folder view options, however.. you missed the final instruction "Restore normal..." or it wasn't exactly clear what to do. Normally desktop.ini files are hidden.

To change folder view back to normal:
Control Panel ==> Folder Options == > View Tab
==> Advanced Settings menu
Click the Radio Button labeled "Don't show hidden..."
Mark the Checkbox labeled "Hide protected..."
Click OK until you exit the Folder options dialog.

Note: the new tut does not change folder view options since the build shortcut step uses a different approach.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by grits View Post
... but it was a quick fix after I deleted the desktop ini that I still had from my earlier try of either the EKMantis batch or the original page 1 tutorial......
Every eMail client lets you set up multiple addresses. You might have to set up two accounts, even if they point to the same mail server, each account retrieves messages from the server for a login address. Your service provider should have all of the information you need on how to configure eMail clients.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by grits View Post
... set up the wrong email account (I have 2 with similar addresses) so now have to search help somewhere to see if I can have 2 different addy's in one WM account or install some other email client for 2nd one.
Tip   Tip
Lost WM grits?

Probably not. For some reason it seems as though your WinMail shortcuts disappear. You have an earlier post saying pretty much the same thing "....can't find ANY shortcuts for WinMail"

I'm not going to try and figure out all of the things you've done to get to this point, but I'll offer an easy fix (I think). Bring up the the local tutorial and simply follow the step -Create a shortcut. That's it. I don't think you have to restart - you're just making a shortcut. all of your settings and eMails should still be in WinMail.

This is not going to solve WHY your shortcut disappears, just get you back up and running.


Peace!

Last edited by Slartybart; 19 May 2012 at 01:45 PM.. Reason: add addendum - re lost WM
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20 May 2012   #1241
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Sorry folks for leaving you 'up in the air'. I wanted to be able to post something that made sense but will try to hit the high spots.

No, I didn't really lose WM.
I don't however know what I did to lose the desktop shortcut & most other WM listings throughout my PC. It was simple to get it back like endeavor says above, C:\Program Files, right click & Send Shortcut to desktop. It had nothing to do with the 'ini', that was just my own mis-understanding of what he meant. My own mis-understanding of the 'Hidden Files' mixup was due to my own mistake of confusing myself between my earlier tries with the Original Tutorial of page one, then the batch file by EKMntis, then the current method.

It boils down to this: Slartybart & endeavor have done a fantastic job of putting this together! It really was simple. Any problems I had were self caused.

If you really want WM activated in Windows 7 don't hesitate for another minute, download Slarty's zip from a page or two back, follow the instructions & you're set.

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20 May 2012   #1242
Slartybart

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
Penn's Forest
 
 

grits,

Good point on your attempts to Reinstate WinMail. If someone wants to get WinMail back, there are two paths to take.
  1. Follow the original tutorial (EKMantis's batch files make it easier-but there's not a whole lot of documentation for that) and find the post with a solution to issues that might crop up. Or,
  2. use the new tutorial
    - but don't take both paths.
Don't be too hard on yourself, you had already started the original tutorial before I even joined, so you didn't have the option. People make mistakes (read a few real early posts "If I only followed the instructions...." or "I see what I missed...").

The point is, you tried and failed, you tried again and succeeded.

Peace!
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22 May 2012   #1243
RA5C

Windows 7
 
 

Thank you very much.
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25 May 2012   #1244
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

The SFC/SCANNOW issue from way back is now moot isn't it? If I were to run SFC it wouldn't affect my Windows Mail?

oops, forgot this . . . when I try to send a link from a web page 'To email recipient' , it opens my Eudora instead of WM & WM isn't listed in 'Program Defaults'.

Last edited by grits; 25 May 2012 at 06:23 PM.. Reason: added oops
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26 May 2012   #1245
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by grits View Post
The SFC/SCANNOW issue from way back is now moot isn't it? If I were to run SFC it wouldn't affect my Windows Mail? .
Yes that's correct, and our own Greg S (nice work Greg) took care of that SFC with WM problem back in this Post. As well I have tested it to prove it out and after running SFC no changes were made to my WM operation; but the fix was specifically to stop the msoe.dll from being reverted and that does work and has been proven, and that fix is already included within the WinMailEdit.reg




Quote:
oops, forgot this . . . when I try to send a link from a web page 'To email recipient' , it opens my Eudora instead of WM & WM isn't listed in 'Program Defaults'.
I probably could give you a reg key to get that back, mine works just fine however I do not have any other email applications installed except for WM, but remember there are a Number of minor 'brokens' or glitches that do not work on WM anymore doing it on 7, one being if you click the work 'offline' button WM will crash, and a few other minor things all of which I don't even use anyway. Point is, some things on this WM on 7 are broken and obviously won't be fixed ever.
If you want to send someone a web link in an email just copy/paste it in, etc...
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26 May 2012   #1246
grits

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

okeedokee, Thanks
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26 May 2012   #1247
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 
WinMail on Windows 8

Setting up WM on Windows 8 is also possible as others have found, I have now done it too - and yes it does work. I had noticed a post on one of our alternate forums, and I posted over there about what I've found if you wanted to check it out.

Since what's listed over there is not really accurately complete, I've asked Slartybart if he would care to adapt and duplicate another separate Tutorial and batch file for the extra steps needed all into one to get WM on Windows 8, and if so then maybe make a new Tutorial Post and post it over there, however if he chooses not to make one, you can still do the first extra process manually from over there pretty easy like I did, and for the second part then run the same current automated process to finish it, and both together works a treat.

Last edited by endeavor; 04 Sep 2012 at 05:53 PM.. Reason: Changed link pointer to Page 1
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28 May 2012   #1248
Sammy888

Windows 7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
I'm fairly certain that "not junk mail" is a per item function. You either need to add the sender to your contacts, safe sender's list, or, as you said, build a rule.

I know safe sender's list is present after you reinstate WinMail. You can see the list in Junk Mail options, l, but I'm not sure if it is functional.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
On the main WM GUI (not an email GUI) you go to the top tab of Tools> Junk E-mail Options> and in here you have many settings you can make - and so check all the many different settings within all tabs in there to see if anything is your problem. I personally have mine checkmarked on the first first tab and first selection which is to Turn it Off, but your needs may vary.

One of a number of caveats using WM on 7 is that you are not 'automatically' able to update the junk filter definitions anyway and so they are old as it is, nevertheless the original ones will still follow the mindset of its time period if you have it turned on. I personally just leave it on Off.
Unfortunately, the settings are on (active) and my senders are in the safe list, yet their mail is still being sent to the junk mail folder.
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29 May 2012   #1249
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sammy888 View Post

Unfortunately, the settings are on (active) and my senders are in the safe list, yet their mail is still being sent to the junk mail folder.


I recommend turning the Junk E-Mail settings Off.
I've never had an email go into anything but the inbox yet.
Go To:
Tools> Junk E-mail Options> Options> check circle "No Automatic Filtering;" also "uncheck both boxes in the Phishing tab too;" for the heck of it make sure "no boxes checked within the International tab within its two 'Blocked' lists tabs;" also "Blocked Senders tab being empty"... now see if those same emails are delivered into the inbox... ...they should, if not perhaps remove them for the other "Safe Senders" tab to see if that somehow even though backwards thinking, helps. Have I missed any settings to be sure its Off?

If you insist on using the Junk-Email with WM in 7, then experiment and try:
Tools> Junk E-mail Options> Options> ..and here checkmark Safe List Only, and put those particular people you're having trouble with in the Safe Senders tab and see what happens.

Has there been any other users that have had the Junk E-Mail being "Fully Functional" "with WM on 7" ?
(except for the updating of its filter definitions which we know of course that's history)
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