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17 Mar 2009
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#1259 | | x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem Penn's Forest |
Windows Mail How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7
Last edited by Brink; 2 Weeks Ago at 06:50 AM..
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26 Jun 2012
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#1260 | | Windows 7 Home Premium Abbotsford BC Canada |
Thanks everybody -- with the help of you fine folks and a lot of internet research, I finally got everything working perfectly last night (or this morning) around 2:30 a.m. -- even the SendTo problem. Sooooo nice to have WinMail back again -- I am very happy!! :-) | My System Specs |
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26 Jun 2012
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#1261 | | Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM Toronto, Canada |

Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor 
Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit Setting the default is easy with two fixes in two different posts in THIS thread. You'll have to read the entire thread as I don't have the time to do it myself right now, sorry. Also make sure you read right to the end as one of those fixes is changed, twice. Hello Ex_Brit !
fyi though, previously I had gone over that '2009' thread and deciphered that all registry entries that were introduced by all of you back then, right afterwards were incorporated into the reg file on Page 1 of this forum and are still there, however in that 2009 thread it was not yet discovered how to make the Default button 'visible' when it was not. However within the last 6 months that resolve was found here, but problem is it's Not in the current reg file on page 1 - but yes the good news is it's in the current WinMailEdit.reg found here. Quote: Look for posts by xsmile in that thread. They have the fixes already zipped, but as I said there are two fixes and he had to change one several times. Again though All of those registry entries given in that thread discovery did get incorporated into the Page 1 reg, unfortunately this Important entry is Not there:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Clients\Mail\Windows Mail\Capabilities]
"Hidden"=dword:00000000
...but again it is included in the latest automation now and hopefully most people will use that instead.
I wish Mark could be put together with Slartybart, or whomever, whatever, so that they can maybe put the latest all inclusive automation on page 1 where maybe now it should be? ...that would be great.
..And by the way Ex-Brit - Thank You for all the work you did in years past on the WinMail project, I saw every single post that You and the others had made about it then and have always appreciated the work and Excitement everyone has put into this project, nice job everyone! All I know is that I had to revisit the subject to enable Vista Windows Mail in Windows 8 and the fix on page 1 of this tute didn't do the entire job, I still needed the 2 reg files in that thread.
Yes I wish that someone would update the tute's accordingly and actually show one in the Win 8 forums. I was approached to do it, but I don't want to take ownership of a thing like that due to the endless questions that ensue, I just don't have the time to deal with that fallout, as I explained to someone recently who PM'd me and asked if I would. I think they didn't like to hear my answer but that's the way it is.
I am an admin level Moderator over at McAfee forums and as you can imagine, they keep me occupied 99.999% of the time and although I'm retired and should have loads of time, my health isn't good so I have to avoid stress if at all possible, so one forum's problems are more than enough for me I'm afraid. ;-)
Thanks for the kind words. By the way your 1st link above doesn't work.
Regards. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 45mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
26 Jun 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit All I know is that I had to revisit the subject to enable Vista Windows Mail in Windows 8 and the fix on page 1 of this tute didn't do the entire job, I still needed the 2 reg files in that thread.
Yes I wish that someone would update the tute's accordingly and actually show one in the Win 8 forums. I was approached to do it, but I don't want to take ownership of a thing like that due to the endless questions that ensue, I just don't have the time to deal with that fallout, as I explained to someone recently who PM'd me and asked if I would. I think they didn't like to hear my answer but that's the way it is.
I am an admin level Moderator over at McAfee forums and as you can imagine, they keep me occupied 99.999% of the time and although I'm retired and should have loads of time, my health isn't good so I have to avoid stress if at all possible, so one forum's problems are more than enough for me I'm afraid. ;-)
Thanks for the kind words. By the way your 1st link above doesn't work.
Regards. My point was that every single relevant registry entry in that entire threads reg attachments is Already included in the old WinMailEdit.reg on page 1, I checked every single entry, but again the new WinMailEdit.reg has the other very important one as well. iow, if you merged the page 1 reg, it has all the same entries that old thread has too so there is no difference; compare and see.
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Yes Slartybart pm'd and cc'd both you and I about it; I thought you knew that.
I agree with your sentiments about it, I don't have the time to own it either with too much on my plate as it is, but I Do Care.
As you know I also have WinMail installed on 8 just fine too (I'm not booted to it at the moment) I used a combo of automation (even though it did Not need all of it as it was, but did no harm either) and the files I posted about at the 8 forums. I much prefer to use WM on 7 though without a doubt. I'm sure though you need to use/have access to 8 because of your work at McAfee.
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All the links I posted in My post work Fine here so I'm not sure why any one of them don't work for you. It's interesting though that within your message of my quoted post, your posts quote Breaks my links though, but my post is fine.
I'm sure Brink would know what the issue is why your quote of my post breaks them; and/or if it's on my end.
Are you using the IE on 8?
I used IE9 on 7 to post it, and I see this forum intercepts the links as you can see the 'mhtml' stuff by hovering the link targets, you can see what it does; but it does get there on IE9, for me anyway. If I'm not doing something right for All Browsers to see any of my links in my posts then I'd like to know about it, and the reasons why, please.
edit:
hmmm, I going to go back right now and edit my post to remove the mhtml additions..., I'm not sure why that happens, I think something to do with logged in/offline link creating.
Best of health to you,
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Last edited by endeavor; 26 Jun 2012 at 06:50 PM..
Reason: link talk
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26 Jun 2012
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#1263 | | Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM Toronto, Canada |
Sorry I didn't keep the messages regarding the request for me to take ownership of the issue so couldn't remember who was involved.
If those reg's are already included then I wonder why, for me at least, the one 'cure' didn't work for the default mail client part of the equation? Maybe they have to be applied after making WM work? Sorry, that's where things get too technical for me I'm afraid.
Re: the links, I think it's just a board glitch perhaps? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 45mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
26 Jun 2012
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#1264 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit If those reg's are already included then I wonder why, for me at least, the one 'cure' didn't work for the default mail client part of the equation? Maybe they have to be applied after making WM work? I don't know for yours, but on my 8 with WM, on first install with no extra registry merges other than the one from post 1230 merged just one time! ..and even looking again right now at WM's Tools> Options> is showing that it's the default Mail & News handler, and so therefore of course each of the two Make Default buttons are greyed out since it's in effect.
As with 7, on 8 I have no other email clients other than WM installed. | My System Specs | | |
27 Jun 2012
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#1265 | | Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM Toronto, Canada |
Sorry, I understood perhaps wrongly from what has just been said here that the xsmile reg fixes from my old default mail client thread (note: I used 2 not 1) were supposed to be part of the single fix in post #1. Sorry now I'm lost.
I don't see the point of a tutorial if one has to read thousands of posts...why hasn't #1230 been incorporated into post #1? Or perhaps a large font proviso included in post #1 to read also post #1230?
Maybe I'm misunderstanding you as I'm reading things at extreme speed. If so I apologize.
Last edited by Ex_Brit; 27 Jun 2012 at 05:40 AM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 45mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
27 Jun 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit Sorry, I understood perhaps wrongly from what has just been said here that the xsmile reg fixes from my old default mail client thread (note: I used 2 not 1) were supposed to be part of the single fix in post #1. Sorry now I'm lost.. Yes Peter, Both! of those attachments registry information was/is already included into the WinMailEdit.reg in Post 1, and that was done back in 2009.
What I'm also saying as already noted is that the WinMailEdit.reg in post 1 is now incomplete since it is missing New pertinent registry information that's included in post #1230, but is Not in post 1 Quote: I don't see the point of a tutorial if one has to read thousands of posts...why hasn't #1230 been incorporated into post #1? Or perhaps a large font proviso included in post #1 to read also post #1230? I totally agree! ..it should be put into Post #1. (Edit - it now is on page 1)
I have not asked Mark to do it, has anyone else?
Many of us, many times, have asked/hinted to Brink if he would do so, but he has not answered that question directly iirc I don't think, but indirectly he has said to others posting in this thread that they should move on from WinMail, of which I can only assume is for all the good reasons that Slartybart so eloquently outlined so well at the beginning of his Tutorial on Post #1.
I see it as a good disclaimer too, but for those who get it, and who are 'capable' then can Easily have WinMail (the updated Outlook Express) on Windows 7 if they want to, and I personally will have it on 7 for many years to come! Quote: Maybe I'm misunderstanding you as I'm reading things at extreme speed. If so I apologize. I hope I've cleared up any wonderings.
For Post 1 we do need ''Someone'' if Mark has moved on from the subject, and if he gives permission, who will edit Post 1 and possibly combine the Manual way that's there already (updating it's old reg file of course with the new one) ..and also give users another choice of a faster more accurate way of doing it by putting in Slartybarts combined automation process; or if not, at least put a link pointing to it.
Any ideas for who?
It's complicated, many of the original contributors have moved from WinMail?
Ideally though and realistically I would think? ..it would best be someone who has WinMail installed already. No I'm not volunteering myself, but I will contribute and work behind the scenes in the ways of my expertise as I've been doing right along.
Last edited by endeavor; 04 Sep 2012 at 05:43 PM..
Reason: Changed link pointer to Page 1
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27 Jun 2012
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#1267 | | Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM Toronto, Canada |
Thanks for clarifying it. That takes us back to to whether or not someone wants to take ownership of the thread if Mark has left or is otherwise busy and that would be either the forum owner, Shawn or any of the Moderators I would imagine.
Sorry but I can't for reasons previously given. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 45mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
27 Jun 2012
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#1268 | | Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM Toronto, Canada |
I just PM'd a couple of people and copied you in on it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 45mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
28 Jun 2012
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#1269 | | Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM Toronto, Canada |
Shawn Brink has done it I believe. Check it out please. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8 Pro w/MC/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 45mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:20 AM. | |