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17 Mar 2009   #1299
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7



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10 Feb 2013   #1300
Renamo3

Win7Pro(HP)(x64)
 
 

@Slartybart: Sorry I confused you. After you have read my file and followed some of the links in the file a lot will make more sense. I am certainly not the only one that has experienced the *.eml FileType arbitrary "timestamp" modification in Windows 7 issue and Microsoft has confirmed that it happens and given a reason for it too.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
You can always keep the wab on file, it's just that OL won't actually use it. You'll need to import the contacts to OL. Again, this will take some testing, but I think you'll still be able to open the WAB,
A warning on opening a *wab file in Windows 7. The entire content is captured by Windows 7 "Contacts". Can become a real mess.

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10 Feb 2013   #1301
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

@Renamo: Yeah, that's quite a book. After reading it, I don't think I'm qualified to help as I think itlies in the Server-Client arena.
EDIT: A quick look in Technet took me here. This is only a reference, not a suggested solution. It certainly sounds similar to the issue you're describing. The HOTfix is quite old, another reason I ask you be be absolutely clear on the versions.
DO NOT apply the hotifx in the link.

At this point, I simply guessing.
Please open a new thread as I previously asked and I'll request help from other members.

Please make sure that all of the versions and names of Servers and clients match. I read the doc and saw
DUNE1 Win7Pro(x64) and JUGASVR W08R2SVR
but when I went back to your post 1362, I saw
"SERVER" = W2kSVR
"DUNE1" = W7Pro(64bit)-SP1
I'm asking so that no one suggests updating software that you already update Windows 7 to Windows 7-SP1. I think you recorded the process you tried very well.

When you open a new thread, please indicate the registry changes you've made to which OS. I'll check for a new thread as this is not within the scope of this tutorial.

Thanks.
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11 Feb 2013   #1302
Renamo3

Win7Pro(HP)(x64)
 
 

@Slartybart: Thank you for reading the file.
From my previous research I have concluded that their is little that can be done to any of the MS-OSs (Server and Client) after Vista without compromising some other features of the OS when applying a Registry edit and/or uninstalling WM from Windows 7, to resolve the issue caused by the way the Alternate Data Stream (ADS) is handled since Vista and which is already discussed in depth at:
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_7-files/why-do-eml-files-modified-date-change-on-mouseover/d6b92680-9200-4731-932f-b45c0c8187dd
http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/35334-eml-files-timestamps-updated-constantly.html
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/itprovistasp/thread/8dc21ddc-9c87-40f6-a43e-96325ea14f96
http://forums.techguy.org/windows-vista/704204-old-file-dates-change-today.html
O by the way, the manor in which ADS is handled since Vista also got rid of some very useful Meta Data Tabs, like "Summary". Reading some of the MS design team blogs and forums showed me that they were very much aware of what they were doing but more or less opted for the easy way out although I am sure they would disagree with me strongly. After this post their really is no need for a new thread.

The TechNet link dose touch a related issue.

As to the "versions and names of Servers and Clients matching" I omitted to mention "JUGASVR" in my previous post when I listed the machines mentioned in my notes, as I had overlooked it when I re-read them. Also, remember that the notes were written for my own use not for uploading and a machine name is all I needed for identification.
To clear this up I do run W08R2SVR-SP1; W08SBS; W7Pro(64bit)-SP1; WXP-Pro-SP3; W2kSVR-SP4+; W2k-Pro-SP4+; W98SE and DOS6.22 on different physical machines or VMs (VMware and MS-VPC04).

Thanks for your time, effort and interest
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12 Feb 2013   #1303
Renamo3

Win7Pro(HP)(x64)
 
 

Here is a screenshot of the effects of ADS on the "modified date". The DIR (Folder) shown on the right was browsed and some of the dates where changed to the current date. The compare was done with a live back up using Beyond Compare ver3.2.4bld13298, an excellent peace of software if you are as freaky and geeky about back ups as I am and with many more features, some of which I have no idea on how to use.


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17 Mar 2013   #1304
LeelaG

Win7 64 bit, Win Vista Ultimate 32 bit, Win XP Pro
 
 

Hi, I have been through over 50 pages of all very good info here, however none of the links for 64bit versions of WinMail or it's associated WinMail Calendar work.

I Have WinMail on a Vista 32 bit desktop now, and I need the 64 bit files to make it work on my newer 64 bit Windows 7 laptop.

If anyone would have links to 64 bit WinMail and it's Calendar, or could send the files to me, I would be tremendously appreciative!

THANK You!
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17 Mar 2013   #1305
Ex_Brit

Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8.1 Pro w/MC (all x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by LeelaG View Post
Hi, I have been through over 50 pages of all very good info here, however none of the links for 64bit versions of WinMail or it's associated WinMail Calendar work.

I Have WinMail on a Vista 32 bit desktop now, and I need the 64 bit files to make it work on my newer 64 bit Windows 7 laptop.

If anyone would have links to 64 bit WinMail and it's Calendar, or could send the files to me, I would be tremendously appreciative!

THANK You!
I think the links that are shown in post 1 of both this and the Windows Calendar tutorials still work though don't they?
Here you go fresh from my own Vista, see attached,


Attached Files
File Type: zip WinMailx64.zip (5.19 MB, 136 views)
File Type: zip WinCalx64.zip (582.0 KB, 112 views)
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19 Mar 2013   #1306
LeelaG

Win7 64 bit, Win Vista Ultimate 32 bit, Win XP Pro
 
 

THANK YOU Peter (Ex_Brit)!!
Pg 1 link here works, but doesn't have Calx64. I didn't see it in the Calendar Thread - sorry. I won't get to try installing Calendar til probably Fri - Hopefully it'll work!!

Thanks a BUNCH!
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19 Mar 2013   #1307
Ex_Brit

Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8.1 Pro w/MC (all x64)
 
 

Yes install Calendar after Mail. Good luck.
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21 Mar 2013   #1308
alientrader1

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 
Win Mail problems

Hi Guys,

Once again, I want to thank you for the newer, simpler way to get Windows Mail back in Windows 7.
However, sometimes some weird things happen, that I can't figure out. I use a window at the top to hold the 4 newest e-mails, so I have about the largest real estate to view the current e-mail. But sometimes the window resets itself to hold 5, or 6, or 7 e-mails. Also, the files column at the left expands to the right by itself, and takes up more of the screen. Then also, sometimes the font size is HUGE on the screen, which means I have to use a horizontal scroll bar to see all the content. Is there something that could be done to fix these problems, or do I have to just live with them? These things happen about half the time. Also, the vertical scroll bar is the only way to scroll down, the scroll wheel doesn't work.

Thanks sincerely for any help,

Barry
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24 Mar 2013   #1309
endeavor

WXP/Vista/Win7/Win8
 
 

Hi Barry,

Could you post a screenshot of what you mean.
I'm trying to understand what 'View' you are using, and picture in my head what you are seeing; I've never had any problems with what you are describing though, and so a screenshot of it would help.
I'm looking through my WinMail Options now to see if there is something you have, like perhaps:
Tools> Options> Read> Automatically Expand Group Messages ..uncheck that, but I'm reaching though here until I can see what you are seeing.
Also in your last sentence, do you mean the scroll wheel on your mouse? ...anyway all scrolling ways work fine on this end and always have.
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