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17 Mar 2009   #1339
Slartybart

 
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How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7




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10 Jan 2013   #1340
vassar89

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post

Could you post what add-on you found, either here or in your other threads?
Thanks so much for all the advice. I have to say that I didn't really understand it all. In case anyone else is interested. I used the export command in WM to export all my emails with the "windows live mail" option (since the microsoft exchange option resulted in the MAPI error. In answer to your question, I used free software I downloaded from outlookfreeware.com a site I think I first found here (or it could have been from a google search). I had to download their runtime program and then a specific one for importing .eml files. It was advertised to preserve all emails, folders, and folder organization while importing into outlook. It appeared as an add on and made its own tab in outlook. It seems to have transferred the emails in their folders but didn't quite succeed in keeping the folders in their hierarchies--so I had to move some folders around and inside each other. I then removed the software. I hope that it didn't leave anything yucky on my computer. I also did the think to correct/reinstall microsoft stuff that I read about here, so WM has "disappeared" again.

I hope it is okay to post this here. I was really happy to have WM on my Windows 7 for the last year and probably would not have switched to outlook if I hadn't gotten a smart phone and needed feature of outlook.
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11 Jan 2013   #1341
Sammy888

 

Sorry endeavor, I gotta disagree big time with you on WLM. Suddenly, I came across this error which never occured with OE: Windows Live Mail: "Unexpected Error" - Unable to delete some messages

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@ Sammy
I always enjoyed OE in the very early days too. WM is basically the same thing with a few improvements and I like it even better. It's so blessed easy to install on 7 and only takes a few minutes, and with the new procedure it's pretty much fully automated.
As mentioned previously it's almost as quick and almost as easy to place it on 8 too for even the slightly experienced+ user, but here I agree and I prefer to use the 7 OS better at this point in time.


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15 Jan 2013   #1342
Sammy888

 

Looks like I can't import my WLM 2012 messages into Outlook 2013. Gotta love how MS products don't talk to each other.

So, I am just wondering. Is it possible that the WM installation onto Windows 7 will be able to convert the WLM 2012 messages into .dbx format? And regardless, is it maybe better to wait for MailApp instead of waiting to go through all that hassle in installing WM?
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15 Jan 2013   #1343
roncerr

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sammy888 View Post
Looks like I can't import my WLM 2012 messages into Outlook 2013. Gotta love how MS products don't talk to each other.

So, I am just wondering. Is it possible that the WM installation onto Windows 7 will be able to convert the WLM 2012 messages into .dbx format? And regardless, is it maybe better to wait for MailApp instead of waiting to go through all that hassle in installing WM?
The .dbx format was last used in OE (never in WM or WLM) although the newer programs can import form the older format. Also, MS doesn't make it easy to "downgrade". So you can't generally export from a newer free program to an older one or from a paid program like Outlook to a free one. But you're first sentence doesn't sound correct since MS wants people to "upgrade" to Outlook from any of the free programs. Perhaps you need to export WLM messages into "Exchange" format and then use Outlook to import from that exported file.
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17 Jan 2013   #1344
RKelly5327

 

Can someone help me get the Windows Calendar files?? I want to install them in Windows 7 to work with Windows Mail and need both the 32 bit and 64 bit files, if they are different. As you know the links don't work any more and I do not have access to any Vista machines or discs to copy them. I'd sure appreciate some help.
Thanks so much.
Ron K.

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17 Jan 2013   #1345
Ex_Brit

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by RKelly5327 View Post
Can someone help me get the Windows Calendar files?? I want to install them in Windows 7 to work with Windows Mail and need both the 32 bit and 64 bit files, if they are different. As you know the links don't work any more and I do not have access to any Vista machines or discs to copy them. I'd sure appreciate some help.
Thanks so much.
Ron K.
I just emailed you.

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18 Jan 2013   #1346
Ex_Brit

 

Of course you'll have to follow the Windows Calendar Tutorial: Windows Calendar - Import into Windows 7

You say the links don't work, I don't think they were ever there in the first place. Wincaledit.zip is still there and works OK though.
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19 Jan 2013   #1347
endeavor

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sammy888 View Post
Sorry endeavor, I gotta disagree big time with you on WLM. Suddenly, I came across this error which never occured with OE: http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers-mail/273453-windows-live-mail-unexpected-error-unable-delete-some-messages.html

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
@ Sammy
I always enjoyed OE in the very early days too. WM is basically the same thing with a few improvements and I like it even better. It's so blessed easy to install on 7 and only takes a few minutes, and with the new procedure it's pretty much fully automated.
As mentioned previously it's almost as quick and almost as easy to place it on 8 too for even the slightly experienced+ user, but here I agree and I prefer to use the 7 OS better at this point in time.

I've been away and didn't these posts Sammy, but to clarify yourself if you look again I clearly stated and was only talking about WM = Windows Mail !
...I was never talking about WLM = Windows Live Mail, which is a whole different animal of which the core of this entire thread and tutorial is not even about.
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02 Feb 2013   #1348
RKelly5327

 
Mail and Calendar in 7 and 8

I followed this tute to a T and got Mail and Calendar both working in Windows 7. I know some have done the same with Windows 8, which I tried to do but could not get Mail to launch in 8. I hunted all around the net and found that 8 was lacking a dll file- msidcrl30.dll. The following is what I found that makes it work in 8.
"You can install and run Windows Mail for Windows Vista on Windows 8, just like you can on Windows 7. But to get Windows mail working in Windows 8, you must have the dll file Msidcrl30.dll in order for Windows Mail to work on Windows 8. Msidcrl30.dll is included in both Windows Vista and Windows 7 but it is not included in Windows 8. So first you have to install the dll file on Windows 8 in order to get Windows Mail working.
To do this you need to go to either your Windows Vista or Windows 7 computer. Then go to your Windows/system 32 folder on C drive. In the Windows/system 32 folder look for a dll file called Msidcrl30.dll. Then copy and paste the dll file into your My Documents or My Downloads folder. And then make a new folder. Copy and paste the dll file into the new folder you have just made. Then right click with your mouse and select ‘send to zip folder’. This creates a zip installer file.
Once you have done this you must copy the Msidcrl30.dll file onto your Windows 8 computer. And then unzip the file, open the folder, and paste the dll file in Windows/system32 on Windows 8." After I did this WIndows Mail launched right off the bat.
However I cannot get Calendar to work in 8. I followed the tute for Calendar, right to a T. Alll went well up to where I was to select the Reminders file. That part seemed to work okay, but when I tried to select the configuration OS at the bottom, I got an error message saying "the specified account name is not valid." I tried it for all of the options, but none worked. I have no idea what the error message is talking about, nor where to even find the name of the mystery accout so I can remedy it.
Any ideas, anyone? I'd love to get Calendar working with Mail, but am up a tree so far.
Forgive me if I have posted this in the wrong place. One of you suggested here so here I am.
I appreciate this forum a bunch!
Ron K.
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02 Feb 2013   #1349
roncerr

 

Thanks for cluing us all in on the need to create a copy of the Windows 7 Msidcrl30.dll file in the corresponding place in Windows 8 (c:/Windows/System32). I had to do a similar trick with one of the battery related files in order to fix a "battery not detected" issue in Windows 8. In that case the file (cmbatt.sys) did exist in Windows 8 but had to be replaced with the Windows 7 version. In that case it was necessary to take ownership of the file and change its security permissions in order to delete the bad Windows 8 version and replace it with the good Windows 7 version. But we need to be aware that when changing files around in the Windows/System folder, the change may be undone whenever the system detects an "unsanctioned" change. In the case of the battery file, if I do a system file check via the command prompt (sfc /scannow), the Windows 8 file version will replace the Windows 7 version and the original problem will return. This was the main reason most of us don't use Windows Mail on 7 or 8; you never know when it will revert back to not working and then you have to go back an make the changes all over again.
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