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17 Jan 2014   #1400
roncerr

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
...I think it will be ok, it's data. What do you think?...
I'm still on a 32-bit system (Vista>Windows 7>Windows 8) and try to stick with one active drive. Since I switched from Windows 98 to Vista in 2007, I can no longer use "logic" or "intuition" or "common sense" when it comes to making decisions about what Windows will do.


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18 Jan 2014   #1401
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Ok, thanks.

As long as retains an original copy of the message store I think it will go well.
The worst thing might be that alaamostafa15 would have to import msgs and contacts instead of simply changing the location of the message store.

It was a great question, thanks for pointing it out Ron.

This tutorial only covers reinstating WinMail. Calendars and Contacts are covered elsewhere.
Still I believe the msgstore will be fine. But I wouldn't have thought about the ancillary features.

So what's the verdict?
I forget if you're updating the same machine to x64 or a different one

If it's the same machine, back it up entirely or make an image
then

Update to x64
edit: Run Windows Update until nothing is offered.
SP1 is required for the tutorial

Run through the tutorial
Go through your "change location" process
provide feedback if it failed or succeeded

Thanks
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26 Jan 2014   #1402
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 

I have used these wonderful tutorials for years now for 4 years, ever since I first installed Windows 7 and successfully gotten Windows Mail up and running on 5 windows 7 computers and even one Win 8 (I ended up removing Windows 8 as I can't stand it) . I cannot thank you guys enough.

However on my latest Thinkpad I am getting one strange quirk. Everything seems to work correctly except that when I hit send/receive it will only receive and not send. It will say to read the error message below but there is no message. But then when I exit Windows Mail it will tell me there are messages on the Outbox and ask if I would like to send them. I choose yes and they get sent as the program closes.

Does anyone know how to tweak this so it will work properly?

Thanks
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26 Jan 2014   #1403
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Can you bring up the full send/recv dialog when attempting the transfer?

It's been so long since I went with WLMail, that I can't recall WinMail. Are there connect/authorizing msgs on the lower right? Click that and see if the full dialog pops up.
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26 Jan 2014   #1404
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10
 
 

Was it ever working right with your current install? If yes did you install any other email clients afterwards that may have wrote over or changed the Send/Receive routine?

As Slartybart said can you bring the Send/Receive up and just click on 'Send All' and does that work? Screenshot of that function below.

It seems something has changed some registry keys to affect that function, if re-running the *current* tutorial on top of what you have installed now does not rewrite it straight, slim chance, I'm not sure how complicated it would be to track what happened down, verses a reinstall.


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08 Feb 2014   #1405
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 
Not Perfect this time

I finally got it working on my newest laptop but one weird problem is that when I click on some emails the program crashes. Now I have also found that on another computer where it has always worked a similar thing happens although it's not a crash where the program goes grey and actually says appcrash but rather I click on a certain email and the program shuts down instantly. Boom! It just disappears. I wonder if MS is doing something funny perhaps with updates. Anybody know?
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09 Feb 2014   #1406
RKelly5327

 
 

I have the same problem with certain emails. They come from the District Superintendent's Office of the Church Of The Nazarene. Every email I get from them crashes W.M. I use Mail Washer and check my email with that first. It gets rid of the spam. Whenever I see an email from the Office I don't use W.M. because I know it'll crash. I get my mail in Outlook then. I have no idea why it crashes, but it does, and just like you say. BOOM! And W.M. is done. POOF!
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09 Feb 2014   #1407
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

There are a number of other members who report that WinMail crashes on certain Email msgs - not all, just certain ones, from certains sendeers. The inforamtion from those issues seemed to point to MSHTML, but endeavor tested in his "lab" and did not experience the issue, so.... it's something else that caused MSHTML to fail.

Re-instating Winmail was always iffy proposition. Now as newer core technologies are implemented it's probably a good time to re-evaluate using WinMail. Thre's just no way to incorporate things such as HTML5 without a developer patchng WinMail - and we know that's not going to happen.

A workaround is to view the msg in text - but that's a global setting... all msgs are viewed as text. It might be interesting to see what's in the msg(s).

Bill
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10 Feb 2014   #1408
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 
I may have found something

While I was not totally surprised that I was having these problems with the new install on the new laptop I was very surprised that the disappearing/shutdown mail problem had now appeared on the old laptop which was stable for years. I removed the last 3 Windows updates that had just been installed within the previous couple of days and now everything is back to normal. These updates have numbers ending with 230, 602 and 341. At first glance I actually did not see these in the new computer and I have to run to the airport but will look again as soon as I have time
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10 Feb 2014   #1409
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kewl1 View Post
While I was not totally surprised that I was having these problems with the new install on the new laptop I was very surprised that the disappearing/shutdown mail problem had now appeared on the old laptop which was stable for years. I removed the last 3 Windows updates that had just been installed within the previous couple of days and now everything is back to normal. These updates have numbers ending with 230, 602 and 341. At first glance I actually did not see these in the new computer and I have to run to the airport but will look again as soon as I have time
When you get the time, please provide the full KB # - they'll probably be offered again unless you hid them. If they're important or critical to your system, then you have to weigh WinMail against the entire system.

This is great information that might lead to a more permanent solution.... or put another nail in the WinMail coffin. I don't want to cripple Win7 for the sake of a mail client.

Thanks,

Bill
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