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17 Mar 2009   #1439
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
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How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7




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22 Feb 2014   #1440
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10
 
 

I understand what you are saying Peter. This is not my Tutorial and so it's not my call, however I Do Understand the point of keeping it neat having been right in the middle of it previously, as for instance saw like how Grits the other year didn't know if she was coming or going being a newbie of what's real or what was conjecture, or what she was suppose to do, and many others.

Don't say you don't have the problem unless you have actually opened an email from any of the three known email website flyers senders that I know of so far. I'm sure you aren't on their mailing list.

Please don't bow out or be offended please that was not my intention, we have always appreciated your input! You are a long time and appreciated special member.

ps,
It's not a Firewall issue in any way shape of form, period.


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22 Feb 2014   #1441
Ex_Brit

Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8.1 Pro w/MC (all x64)
 
 

Please email me a sample or tell me how to get one sent to me....I'll PM you.
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22 Feb 2014   #1442
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
Please email me a sample....I'll PM you.
They are not my emails to send, they have other members personal email address on them, they were addressed to them, and I promised them I would protect their private emails. Unless they give me permission I must honor that promise right. I'll ask, but in the meantime, what is not personal is where they originate from, and the return address from the 3 website flyer senders that I have are:
I'll wrap them in tags since they are live

1.
Code:
BFAds Webmaster webmaster@bfads.net
2.
3.
Code:
KapscoMoto sales@kapscomoto.com
..and there is some current posters yet to submit their .eml file that have not yet - ask them too. Having them figure out how to get the proper ones though is another story, and I covered that on a previous post of post 17, and then scroll to post 23.
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22 Feb 2014   #1443
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 
It's a Miracle. Thanks

Hello Guys,

First to answer the question regarding my version of Windows 7. I'm sorry this may not be of much help. A friend passed away last year and his wife let me have a bunch of computer stuff from his office She is totally computer illiterate and was going to toss everything in the garbage. As I said I had Windows 7 on my desktop since it first came out. For some strange reason I could never get the SP1 to install but I have always downloaded the updates. But he left a disk (download maybe?) that simply had hand written on it Windows 7 SP1. So this I put on my new X1 Carbon. I downloaded all the updates and had all these problems with Mail. During these few days I also updated my x300 ThinkPad and then it had the same problems……UNTILL I removed the 3 updates. I now realize that I also did a system restore.



After reading the posts here from Endeavor and others I turned off IE11 and the problem immediately went away. I then uninstalled the IE 11 update, turned IE 10m on and the problem seems to have disappeared. I went back to my x300 where I noticed that it had i.e. 10. It also no longer had two i.e. icons one of which had said IE64 bit. This must have been removed with the System Restore. I use Firefox anyway.


Anyway for me this is such a big deal because I was reluctant to even use my new X1Carbon because to me it was like it was “defective” since I couldn’t use my email so as crazy as it might sound to a normal person I have been using both the old and new laptops and refraining from even adding software to the new one because of this. Some of my programs really require the i7 processor in my x1 which is why I bought it so this was really disappointing.


I cannot thank you enough for giving me the solution to this nightmare. It would seem that indeed the problem was cased by IE11
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22 Feb 2014   #1444
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kewl1 View Post
Hello Guys,

I cannot thank you enough for giving me the solution to this nightmare. It would seem that indeed the problem was cased by IE11

You're welcome and thanks for your post.

IE10 is pretty good too.. IE11 just takes it up a notch, but IE10 is fine.
You can still use Firefox as your browser that's fine, but WinMail still draws on IE and that's why.
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22 Feb 2014   #1445
Ex_Brit

Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8.1 Pro w/MC (all x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by endeavor View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
Please email me a sample....I'll PM you.
They are not my emails to send, they have other members personal email address on them, they were addressed to them, and I promised them I would protect their private emails. Unless they give me permission I must honor that promise right. I'll ask, but in the meantime, what is not personal is where they originate from, and the return address from the 3 website flyer senders that I have are:
I'll wrap them in tags since they are live

1.
Code:
BFAds Webmaster webmaster@bfads.net
2.
3.
Code:
KapscoMoto sales@kapscomoto.com
..and there is some current posters yet to submit their .eml file that have not yet - ask them too. Having them figure out how to get the proper ones though is another story, and I covered that on a previous post of post 17, and then scroll to post 23.

Strange but that doesn't ring any bells here.,
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23 Feb 2014   #1446
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 

"WinMail still draws on IE and that's why."

When I unchecked the box to disable IE11 I did get a warning that it could affect other Windows functions or something like that and I believe in a previous post there was reference to it being so embedded or entwined with Windows that it's even difficult to separate. I previously had no idea that it was in any way connected to Mail and have no idea what else might be affected but I will leave it turned on now except in its IE10 version.

Again thanks so much. I have always found this to be such an excellent forum
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23 Feb 2014   #1447
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10
 
 

kewl1, you typed in that last line referring to IE11:
"but I will leave it turned on now except in its IE10 version"

You meant to say turned Off right?

Well either way, something is amiss in understanding and I just needed to dot the i's on this.

Please read again in the first paragraph of what I found in my test on post 1435

And so after you read that you will see if IE11 is not uninstalled but only disabled, but even though IE11 is disabled (which just means you can't access the internet with a browser is all and self-explanatory) but with WM and IE11 installed even if IE11 disabled via unchecking it in the "Turn Windows Features On or Off" options, On 64 bit Not 32 bit, WinMail Will Still Crash with IE11 disabled on the problematic HTML emails because it is 'still installed but only internet disabled' therefore still directly connected to IE11's HTML rendering process and that's the problem, however in either way it will not crash on IE8, IE9, or IE10 is what the answer is.

I think having read your posts again you have said that you used System Restore to a previous restore point, but that actually uninstalled IE11 to the Previous IE version, and not just disabled it as indicated, and why you started working. This is all an important distinction though and is why I needed to clarify it.
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24 Feb 2014   #1448
kewl1

Win 7 Ultimate SP1 64 bit
 
 

Sorry for the confusion Endeavor. It's probably due to my trying to talk about two laptops.

OK the new laptop; I installed Windows 7.1 and all updates. Windows Mail had bad problems. After reading your post about a likely relationship between WinMail and IE11, I disabled IE11 and the problems disappeared. So I also then uninstalled the IE11 Update and re-enabled IE which now appears as IE 10 and Mail is perfect.

On the old laptop I never had a problem until the same time I had the problem with the new one. This would seem to point to an update. I also had two icons for IE one of which was labeled 64 bit and I used it only occasionally because I use Firefox. Then I downloaded about 10 updates and got the same problems with Mail that I had on the new computer. I removed the updates about 3 at a time and the problems went away. In retrospect I also did a system restore which I now think must have removed the IE11 update if it was not one of the ones I removed manually. Both laptops IE's say they are now version 10. The 64 bit icon that was there for quite some time is also now gone. I cannot explain that since I'm positive it was there long before there was an IE11. Maybe even prior to IE10. I used to wonder why I had two IE icons, one of which said 64 and the other nothing.
I hope this helps
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24 Feb 2014   #1449
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10
 
 

The important thing here is to know in your situation kewl1 is that when you moved back to IE10, WM works fine concerning the problem.
I just needed to make sure you didn't have any helpful hidden gems to learn from. Thank you.

Working towards a simple, logical, proper, and quick way to get it for '64bit' IE11 users too, if possible.
Will be working on it in the Spare time but certainly don't hold any breaths waiting; for the majority of 64bit WinMail users, IE10 is the easiest answer for now.
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