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31 May 2015   #1660

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)

Okay I had some time this morning to fire up my test bench Windows 7 64bit, with WinMail installed, and do some testing, and here are the results:
100% Confirmed, that on Windows x64 using a working WinMail installation, with this registry entry present:
..and running sfc /scannow - it does break a working WinMail installation - WinMail just won't start afterwards and hangs open under processes (end task on WinMail.exe to release)

So as this was happening I did complete Software/Registry tracking of all the changes that SFC did, but I only outline here just what it did to 'to WinMail' to break it, which btw was pretty simple, it just overwrote the 64 bit msoe.dll to its cached version - no big deal at all.
I simply overwrote that msoe.dll back to the working version (which btw is v6.0.6002.18197) ..and WinMail started up again just fine.
So going forward then to stop SFC from doing that for 64 bit users, you can use this simple registry folder key I revised below in a reg file to remove it, or delete it by hand via regedit - and SFC works fine leaving the working msoe.dll alone.
For Tutorial users in future usage, all you need to do is enter this into you current WinMailEdit.reg, right under the other similar x86 SideBySide entry that's in there already right at the bottom:


Note: the exact same proofing procedure I had done with Windows7 x86, and in the same way it was proven to be 100% effective using that x86 SideBySide registry entry that's ''already in'' the current WinMailEdit.reg taking care of that.

Slartybart (Bill) if you want to add this x64 registry entry to the current WinMailEdit.reg that people download from your Page1 post, that would be great.

@ NoMatterWho, thank you again for bringing this x64 to our attention.
Also to your other questions, I can't yet say for sure what the registry folder key is in Windows 8 or Windows 10 since honestly I haven't checked yet; actually I never even use SFC anywhere, I used other methods for repairs.
I do run 32 bit versions of those Win8 & Win10 OS's, and so next time I have a chance I could check them out running SFC and see if the same thing happens to WinMail, and then easily isolate the registry keys involved and detail it. As for 64 bit versions I would have to install test bench setups for each of those (I need to do that anyway for other software testings) and do the same procedure, which should be pretty easy to detail the results.

Thank you

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01 Jun 2015   #1661

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem

What a great discussion, sorry I missed it. Thanks for the heads up endeavor on the x64 SxS and thank you NoMatterWho for your diligence.

The new package is on post# 1 - either one of you want to take it out for a test drive?

compare files:
Compare: (<) WinMailEdit120515.reg (29522 bytes)
with: (>) WinMailEdit150601.reg (29852 bytes)

< @="6.1"
< [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SideBySide\Winners\x86_microsoft-windows-mail-core-dll_31bf3856ad364e35_none_67a2bdecbd5f60de\6.1]
< "6.1.7600.16385"=hex:01
< @="6.1.7600.16385"
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SideBySide\Winners\x86_microsoft-windows-mail-core-dll_31bf3856ad364e35_none_67a2bdecbd5f60de\6.1]
> ;
> ;150601 - Clean up extraneous attribute-value pairs under x86 SxS and include removal of amd64 SideByside keys
> ;
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SideBySide\Winners\amd64_microsoft-windows-mail-core-dll_31bf3856ad364e35_none_c3c1597075bcd214]
> [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\SideBySide\Winners\amd64_microsoft-windows-mail-core-dll_31bf3856ad364e35_none_c3c1597075bcd214\6.1]

There was some garbage left under the x86 SxS keys - that's cleaned up now.
I also added a sub key \6.1 to mirror the x86 process, although it probably isn't necessary since the main key gets deleted first.

I chuckled when I read the exchange - recalling the debate endeavor and I had on whether or not SFC undid the changes. Now I'll have to go look through the archives to see if I ever had these keys in the reg file for testing, but never uploaded it. These things happen

This should close the book on SxS and WinMail.
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01 Jun 2015   #1662

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)

Hi Bill,

I think it could be pared down even more, all we need for both x86 & 64 entries (one entry for each folder key) in there is this:



..because everything else extraneous under each of those x86 & x64 folder keys is removed with it when the top folder key is deleted. This will take care of any visual esthetic confusion of some people having different version'd updates that I have seen already, which in this case will not matter since when the top folder keys goes - all else within it does too. I've tested it too


Yes I remember well our conversation about SFC, and since you had x64 this is why you didn't see it happen for you. Now you will/would

Just headed off to work,
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04 Jun 2015   #1663

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)

Because it was brought and talked about here, I just wanted to briefly touch on this after some bench testing.
For Windows 8 & Windows 10 (x86/x64) running sfc /scannow doesn't just change one WinMail program file like it does on Windows 7, but it changes almost all of them, depending, which of course breaks it.
Also it does not seem to be just one SideBySide registry entry that I could remove to stop it like on Windows 7, and I tried a few of them with no results, but in the end I just decided for simplicity sake and the fact that for Win8/10 I don't want to change what SFC does anyway!
And so since the only thing SFC does to break WinMail is replace various files in its program folder, then it's So Much Quicker & Easier and more appropriate (for Win8/10 users) just to re-take ownership of the Windows 8 or Windows 10 folder, delete it, and copy in its place a saved copy of your working one. That got WinMail working every time on Win8/10 - tested

I posted this similar information over in the Eight Forums Here, and importantly I've edited my Win8/10 install instructions on its first post:
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03 Aug 2015   #1664

Windows 7 x64

Anyone know how to get this mail work in Windows 10 ? I checked Windows ten forums but cant finsd anything
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03 Aug 2015   #1665

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by maximus61 View Post
Anyone know how to get this mail work in Windows 10 ? I checked Windows ten forums but cant finsd anything
According to the post above yours, The Windows 10 instructions would be the same as Windows 8. Note the phrase "For Windows 8 & Windows 10 (x86/x64)"
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03 Aug 2015   #1666

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by maximus61 View Post
Anyone know how to get this mail work in Windows 10 ? I checked Windows ten forums but cant finsd anything
It might not ever be posted to the Ten Forums about it, because it's really not supported and old... ...not that it's supported here in Seven Forums or on the Eight Forums either, but maybe moreso not on the Ten Forums yet.

However, you can find all the information on how to do it, on the Windows 8 Forum: Here
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04 Aug 2015   #1667

Windows 7 x64

Lo and Behold , it worked. Thanks very much. Have a nice day :-)
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04 Aug 2015   #1668

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)

Of course it did...

..and it also shows you can follow directions well too, so nice job, and welcome aboard.
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05 Aug 2015   #1669

Windows 7 Ultimate

i did exactly what the instructions said to do with win 10 and i got dsoe.dll error?
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