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21 Nov 2016   #1750
endeavor

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by prukeyhi View Post
Both .exe from prog. folder and shortcut disappeared.
i could not find them in recycle bin either.
Interesting, okay then that I recall for Windows 7, that's the first I've heard of WinMail.exe programs file getting deleted by something from the OS. Did you say it deleted itself when you tried to set it as the Default Email Client manually?

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no i did not open as it is not written in the tutorial, should i open it before ?
Yes you should of opened WM first, and it's written on #7 to do so.
I see what happened now.

fwiw, when WM is first opened in Win7 (8/10) it automatically sets a thousand important registry entries.
If you try and set WM 'Manually' via the Control Panel as a default client even before you first time open WM which automatically sets itself proper in so many ways, then I am not surprised that happened then. You tried to make a program default that was not setup yet, and so it was still foreign.

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Any way i reinstalled again without the last step "Set program access and computer defaults" and it works fine
..but it's not the last step, you should of done #7 first which is to Restart your system and launch Windows Mail, and here is where you will see the automatic prompt given, as shown in my screenshot to make WinMail the default client. If you do it right the first time you won't have to do that alternate step to do it manually at all.
So you jumped ahead, and did something that was an 'only if' it was not default already.
fwiw, at any time afterwards you also can check that by going to WinMail's top header and click Tools> Options> General ..and at the bottom click the button that says 'Make Default Client' ...if it's already grayed out then it's already set (or it can be other issues.. like having other email clients installed)

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- no i didn't see it.
You didn't see it only because you did not open WinMail first, and if you did you would of saw it and this would all be a non-issue. You tried to Manually set WinMail as the Default Email Client untimely when WinMail was ready yet.
You said you did a fresh install with WinMail as the first time, and so as my screenshot shows the order of what happens and when, and if you did it in order you would of seen it.

And so you did it a little backwards, no problem, but above importantly you said now you reinstalled it again and it works fine - and so that's good - congratulations.

Honestly, all these posts makes it sound complicated but it's not, and it really only takes 60 seconds to re-instate WinMail once you are use to it and have the sequence down, it's just a few clicks here and there then your are done, and ready to set up.

..have a good day


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21 Nov 2016   #1751
prukeyhi

98SE/XP/windows7 ultimate 32bit
 
 

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Did you say it deleted itself when you tried to set it as the Default Email Client manually?
-yes
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Yes you should of opened WM first, and it's written on #7 to do so.
-oops....right! my mistake
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WinMail's top header and click Tools> Options> General ..and at the bottom click the button that says 'Make Default Client' ...if it's already grayed out
-just checked and it's already grayed out.

ant thanks again for detailed explanation
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21 Nov 2016   #1752
endeavor

Vista/Win7/Win8/Win10 (x86/x64)
 
 

You are very welcome, and I am happy you have succeeded !

..I hope you have some great holidays
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11 Dec 2016   #1753
prukeyhi

98SE/XP/windows7 ultimate 32bit
 
 

irritating 3 bugs but even though i like windows mail
*search bar & views bar keep on showing back, even though i deselected V mark in layout menu.
they are not shown 3-5 times upon opening windows mail after deselected V mark in layout menu-and after that they showing back.
the same happens if do it via registry as well (=1) .
Any idea how to hide the bars for good?
thanks
*a third bug as in the photo, is that details part (tasks\errors) is open all times ,when i manually press send/receive button. again -i press details to close(hide) it , but after 3-5 times upon opening windows mail-it shows up again.
i emphasis i have no errors so it shouldn't open at all.
how to fix that?
i did not find registry values for that.
thanks
p.s- i googled about the issue -but no clue...


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11 Dec 2016   #1754
endeavor

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Good Morning prukeyhi,

As far as the Search & Views bar settings, actually I personally like them on showing.

My Options Settings from day one of Vista's existence, on that GUI you are talking about,
notice All my settings choices, have Always been set like this:
(also notice I circled the ones I think you are talking about)



When I un-check those two settings, and I close and then open WinMail (25 times or more even after a reboot) Then those top right Search Box & Show All Messages displays are still not showing, as shown in this next screenshot:



I don't know what else to say. This is the first time in my life I've ever unchecked those boxes (however I'd personally rather them check-marked and showing) ...but they do stay unchecked for me, so far, after 25 starts.

______________

As for the Send/Receive Details box your screenshot shows, when I click the Detail box to close, it does close yes, but you are right the next time I do a Send/Receive - it's open again.
However I personally like and want that info showing! and imho, that is not a bug, but is an asset. ymmv
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11 Dec 2016   #1755
prukeyhi

98SE/XP/windows7 ultimate 32bit
 
 

thanks for your answer,
-unfortunately they do not stay unchecked for me ,i have no idea why ...
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the Send/Receive Details box that is not a bug, but is an asset. ymmv
in win. XP it stay close and thats the way it should be.
do you have any idea how to "fix" it?
-the 3 issues appear on 2 different windows 7 pc's
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11 Dec 2016   #1756
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by prukeyhi View Post
thanks for your answer,
-unfortunately they do not stay unchecked for me ,i have no idea why ...
The layout settings stay put for me on Win7, and for fun interest I just now booted to Vista to check - it's the same way and it stays where ever I set it to stay.

..btw, the Send/Receive Details box on Vista also does not stay closed either.

There is no bug and so there is nothing to fix


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in win. XP it stay close and thats the way it should be.
do you have any idea how to "fix" it?
XP is Outlook Express! You cannot compare that accurately.
There is noting to fix
Actually for fun and interest, I just booted to WinXP, and in OE the box stays open for me there too.

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the 3 issues appear on 2 different windows 7 pc's
I've explained that already - imho, there is nothing to fix
I do not know what you may done in the past on your OS's to change that.

These are minor issues, and on a fresh OS install they will work as I have outlined.

Remember this thread is specifically for reinstating WinMail on Win7, for normal settings functions in WinMail visit the Vista group.

Also remember kindly, if you don't like WinMail and the way it functions, then it's absolutely more than okay and encouraged to move on up to a supported email client.
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11 Dec 2016   #1757
prukeyhi

98SE/XP/windows7 ultimate 32bit
 
 

ok thank you very much !
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for normal settings functions in WinMail visit the Vista group.
is there specific tutorial you recommend ?
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11 Dec 2016   #1758
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by prukeyhi View Post
is there specific tutorial you recommend ?
I do not know of any specific tutorial since Vista is where WinMail comes from, but it's been so long I am out of the Vista loop. If you scroll down to the bottom of this page, on the left, you will see Vista Forums listed. Go there and click under Browsers & Mail, and you can just post your question in there.
Remember though as I said your Send/Receive Details box is normal, so what's the point!

The only thing I suppose is that those two settings for Layout should stick, it's such a minor issue though, and having that Search & Views box is very minor. I know one thing if you were to ever fresh install Windows 7 and right there re-instate Windows Mail, then the Layout Function Will Work! Everyones else's does. I don't know what things you may have installed or done to affect it since you first installed your OS.
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11 Dec 2016   #1759
prukeyhi

98SE/XP/windows7 ultimate 32bit
 
 

thanks again!
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