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17 Mar 2009   #199
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
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How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7



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15 Jan 2010   #200
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

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To GregS re:
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Eaz-Fix does work with Multi boot, same drive different partitions. That's the way I use it. I Multi boot XP and Win 7. When installing, check the custom installation, select Multi boot, install it, restart OS booting into your other OS, install with custom setup only this time check the box that says this is multiboot but I have already installed in the other OS.
Yep, you were dead right Greg. I thought you only had to instal it in one operating system and it would auto pick up the others.

Did exactly as you said and it worked a treat. Decided to go with Comodo. It seems to do everything that Eaz Fix does, except create a back-up image of the whole partition if you need to format your hard drive for any reason. But I've already got Acronis to do that.

I think it will be brilliant when doing a fresh installation. Just periodically create snapshots during installation, and if anything honks up your sytem, just go back to the previous snapshot stage. Then at the end delete all the snapshots used along the way.

I once spent hours re-loading WinXP for a friend, and had it about 90% finished, when I installed Adobe Reader and for some reason it conflicted and wrecked the whole installation. I had previously turned off Windows Restore because I wanted to save hard drive space. Eaz Fix or Comodo would have been brilliant, and it doesn't take up anything like the space used by Windows Restore which really bloats your system.

Thanks again Greg, I'm really grateful. Great program. Cheers PB
I'm fixin to download CTM now and give it a try. I've been in constant contact with Eaz-Fix support over their Drive Image not working for me after the latest update just a few days ago. Prior to that, it's worked flawless. I even decided to try the Win 7 System Image without initial success. I uninstalled Eaz-Fix and System Image began working. I was amazed at how quick it backed up both partitions compared to Drive Image. I attached System Image .vhd file/files and all was there so I hope it will work in the future in case it's needed. If not, I will still have my prior EZ Drive Images backups, albeit a bit outdated

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16 Jan 2010   #201
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

To GregS re:
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I'm fixin to download CTM now and give it a try. I've been in constant contact with Eaz-Fix support over their Drive Image not working for me after the latest update just a few days ago. Prior to that, it's worked flawless. I even decided to try the Win 7 System Image without initial success. I uninstalled Eaz-Fix and System Image began working. I was amazed at how quick it backed up both partitions compared to Drive Image. I attached System Image .vhd file/files and all was there so I hope it will work in the future in case it's needed. If not, I will still have my prior EZ Drive Images backups, albeit a bit outdated
Very interesting. I've got Eaz-Fix still on my main PC; & a 2nd PC with CMT on it. The main one has XP Pro, Vista and Windows 7. The other has XP Home & Windows 7. Whether it's because I've got 3 OSs on the main PC, or Eaz-Fix instead of CTM, it now takes a lot longer to boot up an OS than the 2nd PC, despite the main one having the advantage of dual core versus hyper threading, more RAM and a much faster video card.

I didn't know Win 7 had a System Image program. Is that the image referred to in the repair utility after you boot from the Win 7 DVD and it offers the option of restoring to a saved image? I must have a look at that. I started doing system images back in the days of Norton Ghost. But then SATA came along and Norton Ghost would no longer work. So I graduated to NTI Drive Image, but when Vista came out, NTI did not support it, so I went to Acronis.

And Acronis has been flawless in operation, although restricted in some areas. If you save a system image to more than one linked DVD, and want to use the partition resize when reloading the image, it's not feasible, because you have to exchange the discs in the optical drive multiple times so it can work out the new partition information. After 25 swaps of the discs, and it still not finalised, I gave up. It warns you of this restriction. Works fine if your image fits on a single DVD, or is saved to a storage partiton on the hard drive.

What I do now is save an activated bare bones installation to a DVD, with all the motherboard drivers, for a fresh re-build from scratch. And one fully loaded image also to DVD, as a baseline. Then I save an image to a primary storage partition on the HD. This last operational image is periodically auto-updated, and can be reloaded straight over the top of an existing OS which has become corrupted or infected, although I prefer to unconditionally format the partiton first, especially if there's been a virus.

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I was amazed at how quick it backed up both partitions compared to Drive Image.
Is the Drive Image referred to here the back-up image application in Eaz-Fix that saves to an external storage? Acronis takes about 15 -20 mintues to burn a back up image of say Vista OS partition, where there's about 15GB of info. And about 12 minutes to reload it straight over the top of the existing system.

Cheers PB
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16 Jan 2010   #202
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

To GregS re:

Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S
I've used this tutorial for adding WinMail to Win 7 and all is working well. Thanks. I've also used this tutorial How to add Windows Calendar to Windows 7 to add WinCalendar which works as well. In WinMail I have a toolbarbutton to access WinCalendar although it doesn't bring up WinCalendar. Anyone have an idea what to tinker with in order to make it work?

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Nevermind, I fixed it. I found all applicable wincal reg entries in Vista and merged them in Win 7. All is well
Hey Greg, I got caught up in the Win Calendar thing, and successfullly imported it as per the tutorial you referred to in an earlier post. But like yourself earlier on, I can't make the tool bar button in Windows Mail open it. Would you have any registry edits to make Windows Calendar work off the tool bar in Windows Mail?

Cheers PB
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16 Jan 2010   #203
Ex_Brit

Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8.1 Pro w/MC (all x64)
 
 

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To ExBrit re:
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Click on the start button and type in regedit and hit Enter.
Navigate through HKEY_CURRENT_USER, Software, Microsoft and Windows Mail.
Create a new DWORD called NoSplash.
Set the value of NoSplash to 1.
Exit Registry Editor.
Hey ExBrit, that's brilliant. Worked a treat. Have never done a new DWORD before and didn't know what that meant or how to do it.

Anyway, tried right clicking Windows Mail and found the option, and once it was created and named, right clicked new DWORD, then clicked Modify to reset the value to 1.

I've also used it in Windows Mail in Vista, which always took yonks to open. Now opens in about a quarter of the time.

Keep up the good work. Cheers PB
Yes, those splash screens delay things quite a bit, that's why I disable them in anything I can.
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16 Jan 2010   #204
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
To GregS re:

Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S
I've used this tutorial for adding WinMail to Win 7 and all is working well. Thanks. I've also used this tutorial How to add Windows Calendar to Windows 7 to add WinCalendar which works as well. In WinMail I have a toolbarbutton to access WinCalendar although it doesn't bring up WinCalendar. Anyone have an idea what to tinker with in order to make it work?

Quote:
Nevermind, I fixed it. I found all applicable wincal reg entries in Vista and merged them in Win 7. All is well
Hey Greg, I got caught up in the Win Calendar thing, and successfullly imported it as per the tutorial you referred to in an earlier post. But like yourself earlier on, I can't make the tool bar button in Windows Mail open it. Would you have any registry edits to make Windows Calendar work off the tool bar in Windows Mail?

Cheers PB
Why heck yea,lol. What I did was a Vista to Win 7 registry compare. When I came across one in Vista, I saved it to the Vista desktop, copied all onto a usb flash which was used to import into Win 7. Having said that, it's about 10 of them and all are very small in size. I'll zip them up and upload for ya.
WinCalReg.zip


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16 Jan 2010   #205
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

To ExBrit re:
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Yes, those splash screens delay things quite a bit, that's why I disable them in anything I can.
That's exactly how I think. Funnily enough though, for some unknown reason, I never thought of the WinMail initial screen as being a splash screen until I read this post.

I guess it's understandable that freeware providers put in nag screens, but they drive me crazy. It's almost an obsesion with me to get rid of them. I did a post in Techspot telling how to disable the free Avira nag and splash screen. And had a lively debate with some members who felt the freeware providers were doing us a favor and we should be beholding to them.

However, as I pointed out, they have to do that to stay in the market place. What's more they also get their product tested and advertised. I think of freeware as being more like Adware; and akin to Microsoft putting out beta versions of their operating systems. And last but not least, the costs of the freeware are factored into the production costs of the final product, as they are simply one stage in the manufacturing process leading to the final product. So it doesn't cost them anymore to put it out there. And they get repaid by the profits from consumers who buy retail. So there's still no free lunch.

Better stop, I'm getting on my hobby horse now.

Cheers PB
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16 Jan 2010   #206
andjayik

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andjayik View Post
how do we get rid of the the windows mail splash screen?
  1. Click on the start button and type in regedit and hit Enter.
  2. Navigate through HKEY_CURRENT_USER, Software, Microsoft and Windows Mail.
  3. Create a new DWORD called NoSplash.
  4. Set the value of NoSplash to 1.
  5. Exit Registry Editor.
Thanks alot worked like a charm!!
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16 Jan 2010   #207
Ex_Brit

Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8.1 Pro w/MC (all x64)
 
 

You're welcome.
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16 Jan 2010   #208
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 
Win Cal registry edit

To GregS re:
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Why heck yea,lol. What I did was a Vista to Win 7 registry compare. When I came across one in Vista, I saved it to the Vista desktop, copied all onto a usb flash which was used to import into Win 7. Having said that, it's about 10 of them and all are very small in size. I'll zip them up and upload for ya.
WinCalReg.zip
Wow! Wow! Wow! Thanks heaps Greg. You are a gentleman and a freakin genius! I applaud! It worked without a single hiccup.

Man I'm impressed. How the heck did you work out how to do all of that? Yo all! I've never saved a regisry key in my entire PC experience. At a guess do you right click and save? And once saved do you then have to convert it to an auto .exe file type?

Hell I could get hooked on doing this kind of stuff! Cheers Bernie
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16 Jan 2010   #209
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
To GregS re:
Quote:
Why heck yea,lol. What I did was a Vista to Win 7 registry compare. When I came across one in Vista, I saved it to the Vista desktop, copied all onto a usb flash which was used to import into Win 7. Having said that, it's about 10 of them and all are very small in size. I'll zip them up and upload for ya.
WinCalReg.zip
Wow! Wow! Wow! Thanks heaps Greg. You are a gentleman and a freakin genius! I applaud! It worked without a single hiccup.

Man I'm impressed. How the heck did you work out how to do all of that? Yo all! I've never saved a regisry key in my entire PC experience. At a guess do you right click and save? And once saved do you then have to convert it to an auto .exe file type?

Hell I could get hooked on doing this kind of stuff! Cheers Bernie
Hi PB, you just save it as is. The .reg file can either be single clicked and merged into registry or right click context menu, select merge and it will merge it into the registry. As to saving locations of the registry for save keeping, always wise to do if you're a tinkerer, right click the key that is in the left hand pane and select Export. Give a descriptive name you'll understand and that's it. If you tinker with more than one key, instead of flip flopping back and forth by scrolling in the registry, save the key to in the Favorites located in the menubar above. <--- That one is a big help

Offtopic: I'm giving CTM a go. I hope it works out. I also hope EF support doesn't monitor this,lol. They've always been a big help with support. Only thing offhand I don't like about CTM, is it's fetish for the color RED.
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