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17 Mar 2009   #229
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
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How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7




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20 Jan 2010   #230
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Hi Greg,

Horse hockey? Would that be a 'bama euphemism for "horse manure"? LOL! Got a genuine laugh outa me with that one!

Re:
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The only other thing that I have not tested is MRT which comes through WinUpdates or it can be run manually by typing it into the Run box. I'm only adding this because I had an issue after the last WinUpdate which I attributed to MRT.
I ran MRT using Run cmd after installing all latest updates, and it came up with zero infections, and made no difference to WinMail. However, that's running it on the full WinMail folder imported from Vista. Might be a different result if run on import of msoe.dll only?

Can you help me with this one. I have put both WinMailEdit.reg and WinCalEdit.reg files on Uploading.com which can be downloaded by clicking here & here respectively. However, when you go to the download site, if you're not a member you have to wait 60 seconds before downloading. Do you know how to put a link in a post which gives an instant direct download to a file? This is one such link here in my Techspot guide which I copied from another post. But I don't know how to do such a link from scratch for my own files. Any help would be really appreciated.

Update: No need to worry about that last question. By zipping the two files above I was able to add them as an attachment, then use the paper clip icon to insert a link to the attachment in the main body of the text. Viewers of the post can then click the file name and download without going to a 3rd party upload web site.

Also I've copied the two attachment links and pasted them into my guide, and it works as a direct download of the file.

These two files are attached WinMailEdit.zip & WinCalEdit.zip.

I've completely re-written my Techspot Guide based on all the various things you have worked out. If I'm not imposing on you, I'd be very grateful if you could check out my guide to see if it seems OK.

Cheers PB




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20 Jan 2010   #231
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post

I've completely re-written my Techspot Guide based on all the various things you have worked out. If I'm not imposing on you, I'd be very grateful if you could check out my guide to see if it seems OK.

Cheers PB
How to enable Windows Mail app to operate in Windows 7 - TechSpot OpenBoards
It worked for me. I would say that you've really shortened the process and eliminated the gotchas of msoe.dll being replaced. I'm happy with it. Prior to this WinMail thingy, I was using Gmail Notifier Plus and Gmail Notifier, not the official Google one but from someone else. Each one had features that I liked. GNP, made use of the jumplists but even though you were logged in to Gamil, clicking a jumplist item sent you to Gmail Login. It also wouldn't show the mail count on the taskbar icon if one was using the smaller taskbar. GN, didn't make use of the jumplist but wanted to poll the server every 2 minutes and was unchangeable. Long story short, WinMail.exe is set to startup minimized and warns in my task tray with an icon when new mail is present and that's good enough for me.
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20 Jan 2010   #232
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

To GregS re:
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How to enable Windows Mail app to operate in Windows 7 - TechSpot OpenBoards
It worked for me. I would say that you've really shortened the process and eliminated the gotchas of msoe.dll being replaced. I'm happy with it. Prior to this WinMail thingy, I was using Gmail Notifier Plus and Gmail Notifier, not the official Google one but from someone else. Each one had features that I liked. GNP, made use of the jumplists but even though you were logged in to Gamil, clicking a jumplist item sent you to Gmail Login. It also wouldn't show the mail count on the taskbar icon if one was using the smaller taskbar. GN, didn't make use of the jumplist but wanted to poll the server every 2 minutes and was unchangeable. Long story short, WinMail.exe is set to startup minimized and warns in my task tray with an icon when new mail is present and that's good enough for me.
Hey Greg, mega thanks for all your help. You were really the driving force behind the edit of my guide. I wouldn't have even known where to start to do the regedits that you came up with. I hereby confer the official title on you of: "Master Tinkerer"! I'll be happy to settle for "Apprentice Tinkerer" for myself. LOL!

I think the guide is a lot less cluttered now, and certainly more functional in removing the bugs of msoe.dll as you say. Also combining the 2 WinMail.reg files, removal of the reg key, and disable splash screen all into one click is great. Plus there's the bonus not in original guide of adding WinCalendar and making it operational in WinMail with one click of the regedit file you sourced out. All good.

To cover all bases I did a virgin install of Windows 7; installed then un-installed WinLiveMail; and followed the steps of guide. Surprisingly, "Take Ownership" worked on msoe.dll in a bare bones installation of Windows 7. All the links worked, and WinMail.exe ran flawless at the end with .eml files auto opening on desktop. And not even necessary to manually make WinMail default, since when it's first run the prompt offers to make it default.

Last but not least, Junk Filter works without adding OEMSpamFilter files. And running MRT via Run box caused no problems.

And so there ends the workshop. Great effort on your part. Been a pleasure working with you.

Cheers Bernie (PB)
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20 Jan 2010   #233
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post

To cover all bases I did a virgin install of Windows 7; installed then un-installed WinLiveMail; and followed the steps of guide. Surprisingly, "Take Ownership" worked on msoe.dll in a bare bones installation of Windows 7.
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And so there ends the workshop. Great effort on your part. Been a pleasure working with you.

Cheers Bernie (PB)
Same here, I enjoyed it! As to the "Take Ownership", It works perfect for files but does not for Folders. I think it may have something to do with my UAC settings which are at the highest possible level and SRP with the same level of protection, meaning full deny for all with no exclusions other than .lnk. Well I do have a few apps with allow rules.
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21 Jan 2010   #234
Ex_Brit

Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8.1 Pro w/MC (all x64)
 
 

I see no tutorial or link to one, on how to make Windows Mail the default email/news application. There is a fix for that here: http://www.sevenforums.com/software/...html#post87824

I believe that some people think it still needs work but it worked for me in making Windows Mail the default mail client at least.
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21 Jan 2010   #235
akwexavante

Windows XP - SuSE Linux - Windows 7
 
 

Hi,

As a system builder i'm fed up of having to install Windows Mail on Windows 7.

So many people want it installed, people have said to me "I don't want Windows 7 if it doesn't come with Windows Mail.

So i've created an installer for myself to speed things up and here it is.

http://www.welcomecomputing.co.uk/do...WinMailFix.exe

Save to desktop, right click > Run As Administrator.

It will install WinMail on 32bit and 64bit Windows 7 computers.

Uncheck the box that asked you if you want Windows Mail to check if its your default mail client!!!!!!

Mark
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21 Jan 2010   #236
mick823

Win 7 Professional and Windows 8 Professional
 
 

Mark,

There are 30 pages of blogs here describing all kinds of issues with trying to get the Windows Mail to run correctly. Can you go into some detail on what we can expect from your installer. Issues I have run into with Windows Mail include not being able to make it the default, not being able to access mail using Internet Explorer email link, help menu not working. I finally got tired of the problems and installed Thunderbird.
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21 Jan 2010   #237
akwexavante

Windows XP - SuSE Linux - Windows 7
 
 

This installer will install Windows Mail on 32bit and 64bit computers!

You can't make it your default mailing client if its the only mailing client installed, uncheck the box that asks you if you want Windows Mail to check if its the default mailing client. Problem sorted!

Unless of course somebody can let me have the registry information required to achieve this then i,ll add it to the installer.

It does allow you to click on a mailing link in Internet explorer and it will open a new email using Windows Mail.

This installer will not be perfect "It is not a Microsoft Installer".

Help menu will not work, this is for people that are already using or used to using Windows Mail and Outlook Express.

If somebody knows where the Help Files are and the registry information required to make these files usable i'll add them to my fix I personally have never needed them!

Don't anybody that understands any Microsoft Help files and tutorials anyway.........I Don't!!!!!!!!!!!!

This Installer contains the 32bit and the 64bit Windows Mail files taken from WinVista, they are unzipped to the location C:\WinMailFix\cab files\**bit.cab

Mark
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21 Jan 2010   #238
akwexavante

Windows XP - SuSE Linux - Windows 7
 
 

Having researched for help files for Windows Mail i discover that in Windows Vista the windows Mail help information is integrated into a much larger generic help source file.

The Windows Mail help info has been stripped out of this larger help resource for Wiun7 and therefore not available in Windows 7.

To move over this much larger help file would overwrite the Windows 7 help file and you will loose all the Windows 7 information because you would be using a WinVista help file.

This isn't going to happen, so if you require help with WinMail on Windows 7 look online for help with Windows Mail as if you are using WinVista.
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21 Jan 2010   #239
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by akwexavante View Post
Having researched for help files for Windows Mail i discover that in Windows Vista the windows Mail help information is integrated into a much larger generic help source file.

The Windows Mail help info has been stripped out of this larger help resource for Wiun7 and therefore not available in Windows 7.

To move over this much larger help file would overwrite the Windows 7 help file and you will loose all the Windows 7 information because you would be using a WinVista help file.

This isn't going to happen, so if you require help with WinMail on Windows 7 look online for help with Windows Mail as if you are using WinVista.
I've already mentioned this earlier. Even if you delete the Win 7 Win Mail help file and replace it with the one from Vista, it will not work.
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