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03-17-2009   #309
Mark


Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64
 
 

Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7

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Last edited by Brink; 10-24-2011 at 10:21 AM..
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01-22-2010   #310
akwexavante


Windows XP - SuSE Linux - Windows 7
 
 


At what point do you get Error 0 running command do you get the error immediately you start the installer?

Since i updated the installer this am i have used it on three new builds and its run perfectly.

I googled
Error 0 running command and many people get this error installing numberous other applications on the Ultimate versions of both Vista and 7.

Some people have a norton or a Comodo product installed on Ultimate versions, could this be a coincidence.

I haven't tried this on an Ultimate version and not likely too in the future as i use Home premium only on new builds.

Adding another 203 Registry entries to the Installer after the W/E that i have found on Vista related to Windows Mail.

Mark



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01-22-2010   #311
poppa bear


Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 


To akwexavante re:
Quote:
At what point do you get Error 0 running command do you get the error immediately you start the installer?

Since i updated the installer this am i have used it on three new builds and its run perfectly.

I googled
Error 0 running command and many people get this error installing numberous other applications on the Ultimate versions of both Vista and 7.

Some people have a norton or a Comodo product installed on Ultimate versions, could this be a coincidence.
The error occurs as soon as the setup button is pressed.

No I'm not running Norton or Comodo on this installation. It's a bare bones virgin installation using Windows Firewall. I tried the earlier version with the same result. Also tried turning off the firewall but made no difference.

Cheers PB
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01-22-2010   #312
akwexavante


Windows XP - SuSE Linux - Windows 7
 
 


Then its the Ultimate Version itself thats causing it and i have no idea why. Its working perfectly on Home Premium.

I'll explore this further after the weekend but i don't think i'm going to be able to do much about this one, but lets see what i can come up with. If its a simple fix i'll do it but if its going to take up too much of my time i won't.

Mark
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01-22-2010   #313
poppa bear


Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Conflict with WinMailLive

To GregS re:
Quote:
You can do the installer with your way of getting winmail, which is keeping mostly Win 7 files for it. If I'm not mistken, his installer is just a zip file that automates the process. I mentioned doing this somewhere in this thread. Got a go PB, I'll be back this afternoon with more info on the questions you asked
Thanks Greg. No urgency about answering the questions I asked, but at your convenience.

Forgot to mention that with the revised method of importing WinMail using all your regedits, and removing WinMail attributes, it even works with Windows Mail Live installed; and over-rides it, offering to make WinMail default on first start up.

Cheers PB
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01-22-2010   #314
poppa bear


Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 


To akwexavante re:
Quote:
Then its the Ultimate Version itself thats causing it and i have no idea why. Its working perfectly on Home Premium.
In order to test this I ran it on my copy of Vista Ultimate, but it wouldn't run and got the same error message at the same point of installation. Unlike the virgin copy of Windows 7, Vista already had WinMail imported, so maybe that blocked the program from running?

Bernie
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01-22-2010   #315
Greg S


Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
To GregS re:
Quote:
You can do the installer with your way of getting winmail, which is keeping mostly Win 7 files for it. If I'm not mistken, his installer is just a zip file that automates the process. I mentioned doing this somewhere in this thread. Got a go PB, I'll be back this afternoon with more info on the questions you asked
Thanks Greg. No urgency about answering the questions I asked, but at your convenience.

Forgot to mention that with the revised method of importing WinMail using all your regedits, and removing WinMail attributes, it even works with Windows Mail Live installed; and over-rides it, offering to make WinMail default on first start up.

Cheers PB
UAC is User Account Control and SRP is Software Restriction Policy. The latter being one of the best free security controls available and it's built into windows. I have mine set to turn off or on via a shortcut in the start menu which points to a batch file that is coded to either turn off or on. It's the same as going into local security policy but it's quicker with a shortcut especially if one installs and test alot of apps.

Moving on, I've extracted the installer and it appears to be using the Vista versions of WinMail so maybe akwexavante could get on board and modify his installer to use your method which in my opinion is better in the long run.
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01-24-2010   #316
johannes778


windows 7
 
 

Win Mail in Winows 7

Cheers Mate,
It works wonders

Also that take ownership is fantastic.
Thanks a million

Han
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01-27-2010   #317
poppa bear


Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Enable WinMail in Win7 Revised method

Modified Method to Enable Windows Mail in Windows 7

Please note: The credits for researching & developing the modifications in this guide go primarily to GregS; and to Ex_Brit for the regedit to disable the splash screen at startup.

Without forgetting the originator, Mr. Grim, without whom none of this would have been possible in the first place.

This method incorporates the various modifications discussed in this thread to simplify the process and remove conflicts.

Here's how!

1. Download and run the attachment: WinMailEdit.zip.

*Warning: It is critical to do this before carrying out step (3). This auto exe file edits the registry to allow .eml files to be opened on the desktop; removes the WinMail splash screen at start-up; and resolves various conflicts.


2. Remove WinMail.exe attributes to view hidden files.

A) Open: Start Menu ==> All Programs ==> Accessories ==> Run.

B) Type the following code, (or highlight, copy and paste it), exactly as shown, into the Run Command box; and then click "OK":

attrib -s -h "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe"


3. In Windows Mail folder, take full control of the file "msoe.dll" as follows.

*Warning: If running 64bit Windows 7, before carrying out this step, read "Footnote 1" below.

A) Download and run the attachment: Take Ownership.zip. If needed, there is a 2nd file attached: Remove Take Ownership.zip.

B) Open: Start Orb ==> Computer ==> C: Drive ==> Program Files ==> Windows Mail folder ==> Right click: "msoe.dll" file ==> In drop down menu click: Take Ownership.

*Note 1: If WinMail.exe file is not visible in Windows Mail folder, apply "Footnote 2" below.

*Note 2: Before proceeding to Step 4, copy and save "msoe.dll" file as back-up for safety.


4. Download and save the appropriate Vista Windows Mail "msoe.dll" file from the following attachments:

- 32bit msoe.dll File WinMailVista.zip
- 64bit msoe.dll File WinMailVista.zip

B) Open Windows Mail Folder in Windows 7 Program files ==> Paste the Vista "msoe.dll" into it, replacing the existing Windows 7 "msoe.dll".

*Note: If it will not allow the paste, take full control of the Windows 7 "msoe.dll" manually as per "Footnote 3" below, and then paste.

C) Right click: WinMail.exe ==> Send to desktop as a shortcut.

*Note: If email .eml files still cannot be opened on the desktop, it may be necessary to manually edit the registry as per "Footnote 4".


5. To enable Windows Calendar in Windows Mail.

Go to tutorial in this forum.


6. To import Contacts, Accounts, Folders & Emails.

- From Vista to Windows 7, go to this post .

- From Outlook Express to Windows 7, (or Vista), go to this link.



Footnotes.

1. For 64bit Windows 7 Installations.

In 64bit Windows 7 installations there are two sets of program files . It is essential to copy and paste the 64bit Vista Windows Mail file "msoe.dll" into the Windows Mail folder in the normal Program Files. The same applies when importing 64bit Windows Calendar - See Step 5.

Do NOT import it to the 32bit Windows Mail folder in Program Files(x86). Click on picture below to expand and see location of program files.


Windows Mail-program-files-x86-.png



2. Manually show hidden files.

Go to: Start Orb ==> Computer ==> C: Drive ==> Program Files ==> Open: Windows Mail ==> Top Task Bar ==> Tools ==> Drop down menu ==> Folder Options ==> View Tab

Dot: Show hidden files, folders...
Untick: Hide empty drives... Hide extensions... Hide protected operating...

In response to the warning click: Yes ==> Apply ==> OK.

After all the steps are done, restore default view settings.


3. Manually take full control of files.

Right click the file "msoe.dll" ==> Properties ==> Security Tab ==> Advanced ==> Owner Tab ==> Edit ==> Highlight User Name ==> Apply ==> OK ==> OK

Under "Security Tab" click: Edit ==> Under "Group or user names", the first entry is highlighted.

Under "Permissions for System", tick: "Full Control" ==> Apply ==> Do the same for every entry ==> OK ==> Close.

*Note: If the option to edit the entries under "Group or user names" is grayed out, take the following steps:

Under "Security" tab click: "Advanced" ==> "Change Permissions" ==> Untick: "Include inheritable permissions from this objects parents" ==> Click: "Add" in the pop-up window ==> Apply ==> OK.

Return to the security tab and edit to grant full control as shown above.


4. Manually edit the following registry key if it is installed.

Start Menu ==> All Programs ==> Accessories ==> Run ==> Type: Regedit ==> OK

Go to: HKEY_CURRENT_USER ==> Software ==> Classes ==> eml_auto_file ==> shell ==> open ==> command

Double click: Default (in right pane) ==> Value Data ==> Completely replace by copying and pasting the following exactly as shown:

"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\winmail.exe" /eml:%1


General Notes

1. When WinMail is first run it should prompt to set WinMail as default. If there are any problems setting it as default the following post may help here. In association with this post, it may help to run the attachment SetWinMailDefault.zip.

2. In some environments, having WinLiveMail installed may cause conflicts, so it may be necessary to remove it.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB

Last edited by poppa bear; 05-15-2010 at 12:19 PM.. Reason: Correction
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01-28-2010   #318
Greg S


Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Modified Method to Enable Windows Mail in Windows 7

Please note: The credit for researching & developing the modifications in this guide goes to GregS.


Hope this helps. Cheers PB
Honestly, the real credit should be Mr GRiM for letting us know that something like this was even possible. Also to you for your continued testing on a Win 7 clean slate as a tester outter,lol
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01-28-2010   #319
andjayik


Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 


why do we need to do all that? All i did was copied and paste the vista mail into my 7 mail and works no problem! Wasy and no extra downloads and stuff.
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