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Windows 7: Windows Mail


17 Mar 2009   #319
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7




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21 Feb 2010   #320
Ex_Brit

Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8.1 Pro w/MC (all x64)
 
 

I haven't yet managed to repeat it.


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21 Feb 2010   #321
Don DeBaer

windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
 
 
Recovered folder

This is where the problem is....I have already moved the APP folder with no problem...and then when WINMAIL comes up in Windows 7...the recovered folders are created....again..no problem....but once I have moved all the emails etc...and then I delete the recovered folders....... THEN...when Winmail starts again...it creates the recovered folders again........each time windows7 starts, it makes the recovered folders....this is what I am looking to stop before I delete everything and start over again... Don


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
How to import Windows Mail Contacts, Accounts, Folders & Emails from Vista to Windows 7.


1. Easy Method.
Emails, Folders & Accounts:
  • In Vista open: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders
  • Copy the entire contents of Local Folders
  • In Windows 7 open: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders
  • Paste the copied contents of Local Folders from Vista into the Windows 7 Local Folders, replacing files as detected
  • When prompted, enter your User Name/Password for your ISP.
You now have all your emails, folders and accounts set up.

Contacts:
  • Open Start Orb --> User Name --> Contacts.
  • Drag & drop the contents of this folder onto a data USB stick
  • Drag & drop from the USB stick into the equivalent folder in Windows 7.
2. Manual Method:
  • Open WinMail application on the Vista desktop.
  • In Local Folders: Drag and drop contents of each sub-folder onto a USB data stick. That is: Inbox, Outbox, Sent Items & Drafts.
  • Open WinMail on desktop of Windows 7.
  • Drag and drop contents of Inbox, Outbox, etc, from the USB stick into the corresponding folders of Local Folders in WinMail.
  • Set up email accounts manually.
Whole process takes about 12 - 15 minutes.

Note:

If the whole Windows Mail folder is imported from AppData, and pasted into the existing equivalent Windows Mail folder in Windows 7, it will create a new folder called "Recovered Folders" with sub-folders of Inbox, Outbox, etc. It will then be necessary to manually drag/drop the contents of each sub-folder into the sub-folders of Local Folders. And finally, delete the "Recovered Folders" folder.

It also causes a corruption which will usually auto-fix, but better not to have at all.

Using the easy method avoids both these problems.

Cheers PB
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21 Feb 2010   #322
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

To Don DeBaer re:
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This is where the problem is....I have already moved the APP folder with no problem...and then when WINMAIL comes up in Windows 7...the recovered folders are created....again..no problem....but once I have moved all the emails etc...and then I delete the recovered folders....... THEN...when Winmail starts again...it creates the recovered folders again........each time windows7 starts, it makes the recovered folders....this is what I am looking to stop before I delete everything and start over again... Don
Yes, I understand what you're saying now, but I don't have an answer off-hand as to why this is happening.

When you transferred your data from your old PC I'm assuming you transferred the whole Windows Mail folder from AppData? And pasted that into the existing Windows Mail folder in AppData in Windows 7??? I'm assuming this, because if you had used the method in post No 374 you wouldn't get any Recovered Folders in the first place. Also you will have replaced some Windows 7 system files with Vista system files. This would have caused you to get an error message that a corruption had occurred but been fixed.

That would seem to be the obvious answer to what's causing your problem. However, it could also be a memory issue.

Also, if you used the Export/Import method of transferring you would get "Recovered Folders" sub-folder in Local Folders.

1. As a first step to fix it, go to: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders.

In Local Folders, is there a folder called: "Recovered M 2a8"? If there is, after you've moved all your files you want saved to local folders, delete this folder. Also if there are any other "Recovered" files or folders, delete them also, and see if that fixes the problem.

2. If the problem still persists. Do you have a copy of the Windows7 original Windows Mail folder from: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail?

If you do, I'd suggest completely deleting all the existing files in the Windows Mail folder, and re-installing the original Windows 7 files. Then import only the Local Folders files from Windows Mail in Vista AppData, as per the preceding post No 374. If this doesn't fix the problem proceed to the next step.

3. When you imported Windows Mail, did you import the whole Vista Windows Mail folder, or just the "msoe.dll" file as per post No 317? If you imported the whole folder that could also cause conflicts, as once again, you will have replaced some Windows 7 sytem files with Vista files.

In this case I'd suggest deleting the entire contents of Windows Mail in program files and re-install the original Windows 7 Windows Mail files. Then import only the "msoe.dll" file from Vista as per post No 317 found here.

Some other member may have a simpler solution to your problem but without more information that's the best I can offer at this point.

Hope it helps. PB
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03 Mar 2010   #323
DavidJ

Windows 7
 
 

Hi!

After several days of scouring the Web for good information on the Windows Mail issue (Moving from Vista to Windows 7) I found this site and have been heavily using serveral of the tutorials here. However I'm still stumped and not sure what to do. Sorry for the lengthly e-mail, but I want to provide as much detail as possible.

In a nutshell, after getting WinMail to work in Win 7 I'm having to manually move a lot of my messages. I do this by opening up WinMail, creating the appropriate mail folders under the inbox folder and then closing WinMail. Using Explorer I'm copying all of the *.eml files (and a folder file) from my backup to the new folder(s) and when I restart WinMail the message are available to read.

However, along the way something screwy is happening, WinMail will create a recovered Messages folder and start reading everything from my Users\David\Local Folders directory and create a whole set of folders and sub-folders as shown in an example below.

I feel that part of the problem may be the path that defines where the messages are stored, because depending on how I structure the path, I end up with different "results" So I think I need some help understanding what the correct path stucture should look like, and... how (or does) the User\AppData\Microsoft\Windows Mail\ folders have any bearing on the operation of WinMail in this case?

Once I can figure out how to stop all of these recovered folders being created I'll be good to go with all of my e-mails having been recovered!

Also, I might have missed the tutorial on how to manually import account settings, if someone can point me to that I'd appreciate it, but it's not a big concern to me...

Thanks for any assistance!

Edit: Hmmm... maybe the answer is in the couple pages preceeding this message. I honestly didn't go through all 39 pages of this thread, only about 20 :-)


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04 Mar 2010   #324
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

To DavidJ re:
Quote:
In a nutshell, after getting WinMail to work in Win 7 I'm having to manually move a lot of my messages. I do this by opening up WinMail, creating the appropriate mail folders under the inbox folder and then closing WinMail. Using Explorer I'm copying all of the *.eml files (and a folder file) from my backup to the new folder(s) and when I restart WinMail the message are available to read.

However, along the way something screwy is happening, WinMail will create a recovered Messages folder and start reading everything from my Users\David\Local Folders directory and create a whole set of folders and sub-folders as shown in an example below.
The key to the whole thing really lies in the method used to import the folders, emails, accounts. You mention you have copied folder files as well as emails, by copying them from Explorer, and I suspect that's where the problem lies. You can't just copy a sub-file from Local Folders in Vista WinMail.exe desktop application. It has to come from Local Folders here: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders. In this location, it is linked to the Local Folders in WinMail.exe interface on the desktop. And the link is retained when it is copied/pasted into the equivalent Local Folders in Windows 7.

I'm assuming you're importing from Vista. If you're importing from Outlook Express it's a whole different ball game. This is a link here to a tutorial showing how to import from Outlook Express to WinMail in Vista or Windows 7.

The simplest trouble-free method from Vista to Windows 7 is the one shown in my post here. In this method, the entire contents of the WinMail sub-folder in AppsData in Windows 7 is deleted; and replaced with the entire contents of the equivalent folder from Vista. This way there are no recovered folders, and all custom folders you have in WinMail Vista will be set up automatically, unless they are empty, in which case they will not be carried across. It also sets up your accounts at the same time, except for putting in your user name/password for your ISP for which you will be prompted the first time you run the application.

Don DeBaer had a similar problem in post post No 385 two back. If you read my reply in post No 386 it might throw some light on the problem. If you have used the export emails option from WinMail in Vista, and the import option in WinMail Windows 7, you will get Recovered Folders set up in WinMail in Windows 7.

First off I'd suggest backing up all your emails to storage folders on your desktop or USB stick, by dragging & dropping them from Local Folders in Vista WinMail interface on desktop. Do the same in WinMail in Windows 7. Then follow the steps in the linked post shown above. Any saved emails from WinMail in Windows 7 will then have to be drag/dropped into the appropriate folders once they're set up.

Hope this helps.
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04 Mar 2010   #325
DavidJ

Windows 7
 
 

Thanks Poppa Bear,

UPDATE on 03/04 9:15PM CST:

Problems Solved! Thanks for pointing me to the proper post!

The one issue I didn't discuss above, is that after partioning & installing Windows 7 for a dual boot, I ended up with some strange issues where when I boot into Vista, I end up at a black screen after the welcome screen is displayed. I can ctrl-alt-del and ultimately pull up the task manager, but that's about it.

So all I can do is boot into Windows 7 and work with what I have, such as backed up folders.

I can see the contents of the partition where Vista is installed, but with all that I've been trying this past week to recover, things seem kinda "screwy" for example, I can't see theD:\Users\David\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders\Inbox folder in the Explorer tree, but I can find it when searching for the appdata folder is the search window of Explorer. I checked/un checked the option in Windows Explorer to show hidden & protected files & folders...

I'm perplexed!

So first I'll try the following;

The simplest trouble-free method from Vista to Windows 7 is the one shown in my post here. In this method, the entire contents of the WinMail sub-folder in AppsData in Windows 7 is deleted; and replaced with the entire contents of the equivalent folder from Vista. This way there are no recovered folders, and all custom folders you have in WinMail Vista will be set up automatically, unless they are empty, in which case they will not be carried across. It also sets up your accounts at the same time, except for putting in your user name/password for your ISP for which you will be prompted the first time you run the application.


If that doesn't work I'll review all of these other posts you outlined and see if I can't cobble some sort of a solution together where I'm not relying on the Vista install.

Thanks!
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04 Mar 2010   #326
ikester2u

Windows 7
 
 
Windows 7, Fonts in Windows Mail?

Hello, I so new to this forum and couldn't find out how create a new post? I apologize if I'm not in the right forum or in the right "thread". Could someone please inform me if I need to be posting somewhere else? I'm a senior lady and seem to be forgetting more than "remembering"...

Here goes my delimma, I'm using WM in [COLOR=#0072bc !important][COLOR=#0072bc !important]Windows [COLOR=#0072bc !important]7[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]. I tried WLM but didn't like it. I love to use the many stationeries I created using OE. My problem is I cannot change some fonts nor can I change ANY font size in WM and that's using just a plain "compose" email? If I set it for Verdana 10pt it rolls right back to 12pt but either comes out too big or too small for the receiver of the email? My display settings are 1028 x 768 and in personalization I set it for smaller. I'm still using my old Dell Monitor which I will replace soon for a new, larger one (flat panel). Is this a problem because of my monitor? In OE, I could change the font and size to my hearts content but I'm not able to do that with [COLOR=#0072bc !important][COLOR=#0072bc !important]Windows [COLOR=#0072bc !important]Mail?[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR]

Please, any help or suggestions would be wonderful and if this is the wrong forum to address this question, let me know and I'll repost. Oh, one more thing, this is a brand new [COLOR=#0072bc !important][COLOR=#0072bc !important]computer[/COLOR][/COLOR] that my son built for me with all of the latest and greatest stuff in it (Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-Bit)...Thanks so much!
ikester
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05 Mar 2010   #327
Paultx

Windows 7
 
 

I installed 7 on my four PCs (check sig) and have nothing left from Vista in them. How can I get Windows Mail to install on 7?

I have one Windows Vista Home Premium original DVD. Can I take WM from it to follow your tutorial? And will I be able to install it on all four PCs, considering their different editions?
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05 Mar 2010   #328
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

To Paultx re:
Quote:
I installed 7 on my four PCs (check sig) and have nothing left from Vista in them. How can I get Windows Mail to install on 7?

I have one Windows Vista Home Premium original DVD. Can I take WM from it to follow your tutorial? And will I be able to install it on all four PCs, considering their different editions?
You don't need Windows Mail from Vista to enable the existing Windows Mail to operate in Windows 7. Go to this post here, which has everything you need.

Cheers PB
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05 Mar 2010   #329
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ikester2u View Post
Hello, I so new to this forum and couldn't find out how create a new post? I apologize if I'm not in the right forum or in the right "thread". Could someone please inform me if I need to be posting somewhere else? I'm a senior lady and seem to be forgetting more than "remembering"...

Here goes my delimma, I'm using WM in Windows 7. I tried WLM but didn't like it. I love to use the many stationeries I created using OE. My problem is I cannot change some fonts nor can I change ANY font size in WM and that's using just a plain "compose" email? If I set it for Verdana 10pt it rolls right back to 12pt but either comes out too big or too small for the receiver of the email? My display settings are 1028 x 768 and in personalization I set it for smaller. I'm still using my old Dell Monitor which I will replace soon for a new, larger one (flat panel). Is this a problem because of my monitor? In OE, I could change the font and size to my hearts content but I'm not able to do that with Windows Mail.

Please, any help or suggestions would be wonderful and if this is the wrong forum to address this question, let me know and I'll repost. Oh, one more thing, this is a brand new computer that my son built for me with all of the latest and greatest stuff in it (Windows 7 Home Premium, 64-Bit)...Thanks so much!
ikester
I'm sorry I can't give any definite answers on why you're having problems with font and text size. IGNORE THIS NEXT BIT! --> see post No 395 by GregS two down. Might possibly be the keyboard as there are major mis-prints in sections of your text, such as:
Quote:
"I could change the font and size to my hearts content but I'm not able to do that with [COLOR=#0072bc !important][COLOR=#0072bc !important]Windows [COLOR=#0072bc !important]Mail?[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR].
UPDATE: I don't know what method you or your son used to enable/import Windows Mail in Windows 7. If he used the original method shown in this tutorial, and imported the full Windows Mail folder from Vista, he will have unnecessarily replaced some of the original Windows Mail files with Vista ones and most likely have caused a conflict or corruption.

This is probably the quickest way to fix things. If he backed up the original Windows Mail folder in Windows 7, as suggested in the beginning of this tutorial, then I'd suggest deleting the entire contents of the Windows Mail folder in Windows 7, and replacing it with the original Windows Mail folder contents. Then use the modified method of enabling the original Windows Mail folder in Windows 7, found by clicking here. Before starting, read the whole post thoroughly.

Please note, there are two sets of program files in 64bit Windows 7, and there is a Windows Mail folder in each of them. Be sure to apply the method shown in the post to the normal 64bit Program Files, NOT the Program Files(x86). This is all explained in the post.

Finally, to import accounts, emails, folders or contacts from Windows Mail in Vista to Windows 7, go to this post here. However, if you're importing these from your Outlook Express, it's a whole different ball game. This is a link here which explains how to import emails etc from OE.

I have Windows Mail operating in Windows 7, after using the method shown above, and have no problems changing font or size of text.

Hope this may help. Cheers PB
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