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Windows 7: Windows Mail

17 Mar 2009   #329
Slartybart

x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7



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05 Mar 2010   #330
DavidJ

Windows 7
 
 

Pappa Bear,

One last question (I think...)

I followed the instructions in post #317 and all is well (except I haven't pulled in my contacts yet...) I double checked the path of the mail folders and they are in my appdata folder on the Windows 7 partition. Is it safe to assume that when I finally clean off the Vista partition, I'll still have my e-mail?, there's no background stuff going on that is actually pulling the mail from somewhere else such as Vista partition or the my backups on a separate drive?

Thanks!

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05 Mar 2010   #331
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Might possibly be the keyboard as there are major mis-prints in sections of your text, such as:
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"I could change the font and size to my hearts content but I'm not able to do that with [COLOR=#0072bc !important][COLOR=#0072bc !important]Windows [COLOR=#0072bc !important]Mail?[/COLOR][/COLOR][/COLOR].
He's trying to css(cascading style sheet) code his font/color himself instead of using the forum tools.
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06 Mar 2010   #332
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidJ View Post
Pappa Bear,

One last question (I think...)

I followed the instructions in post #317 and all is well (except I haven't pulled in my contacts yet...) I double checked the path of the mail folders and they are in my appdata folder on the Windows 7 partition. Is it safe to assume that when I finally clean off the Vista partition, I'll still have my e-mail?, there's no background stuff going on that is actually pulling the mail from somewhere else such as Vista partition or the my backups on a separate drive?

Thanks!
Hi David,

I'm not quite sure exactly what you've done so far, apart from enable Windows Mail to operate. However, this is a post here I've done showing the easy way to import all emails, accounts, and folders, (including any customised folders you've created), from Windows Mail Vista in one fell swoop.

Once you've done that, to be absolutely safe, before deleting anything in Vista, you might want to drag/drop all your emails from Local Folders in WinMail to desktop, USB or storage partition. For example, highlight the entire contents of "Sent Mail" sub-folder of Local Folders. Then just left click/hold and drag to where you want.

You can also directly copy your accounts from Local Folders in Vista by opening: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders. Then paste them straight into the equivalent folder in Windows 7. When you next start WinMail.exe on desktop, it will prompt you to enter your user name/password for your ISP.

Off Topic: In your earlier post you said:
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The one issue I didn't discuss above, is that after partioning & installing Windows 7 for a dual boot, I ended up with some strange issues where when I boot into Vista, I end up at a black screen after the welcome screen is displayed. I can ctrl-alt-del and ultimately pull up the task manager, but that's about it.
I have WinXP Pro, Vista Ult, Windows 7 Ult & a storage partiton all on the one HD. Not always, but often when I boot into Vista I get exactly what you're describing. However, if I reboot to Vista again, it usually loads the 2nd time. Then if I continue to open Vista on start-up it's usually OK.


You could try booting off your Vista installation disk. Once it comes up with the screen to Install Windows, choose --> Next --> Repair your computer. It then searches for installations. Once finsished searching --> Highlight Vista, not Windows 7 --> Next --> Click: Startup Repair --> Restart when it finishes repairing, and remove installation CD.

I also often get a similar problem booting XP, if I haven't run it for awhile. On boot up it will show the desktop background but no icons. As in Vista, Task Manager still operates, but no applications. Then after about 2 -3 minutes it comes good. And like Vista, if I now continue to use it, it opens normally.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB
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07 Mar 2010   #333
megko

windows 7
 
 

I have installed Windows Mail into Win 7 as above. But I cannot open any .eml files saved in my windows explorer. Each time I click on the .eml file, the inbox opened up instead.
I have already set windows mail as my default program. Only by selecting windows live mail at the "open with" options, could I read the email. How can I open my .eml file without using windows live mail?
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07 Mar 2010   #334
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Can someone copy an .eml file to the desktop, take and post a screenshot of how it appears here? I think that I have something fishy going on with my default icons, not just .eml but others as well. For some reason, I don't remember icons having a white sheet of paper as a background to the default icon on the desktop or in explorer. Also it's now showing up in the bottom status preview in Explorer for folders as well. It may have always been like this but I don't remember it. I have a notion as to what it is and just for the record it is unrelated to WinMail hackery.
Thanks
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07 Mar 2010   #335
primal

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit Version 6.1 Build 7600
 
 

I have windows 7 64 version 6.1 build 7600 on a new pc and win vista 32 bit on a laptop. I tried to follow the tutorial and take ownership worked fine. I copied my winmail from my 32 bit laptop to the win 7 machine. I got a bit confused about what folder to paste the 32 bit win mail into so I tried both

But when I click on the shortcut on the desktop it does not open.

What happens is that I get multi copies of winmail.exe*32 in task manager. I have to log off to get rid of them. When I click on the mailto link in IE8 I get a message "could not perform this operation because the default mail client is not properly installed."

I was not able to download the 64 files referred to as they had been removed. Found them now I think. I put the 64 bit msoe.dll in the ordinary program files but still it will not open. Just get multi copies of winmail.exe*32 in task manager


Thanks

I found post 317 at Windows Mail which says

1. Download and run the attachment: WinMailEdit.zip.

*Warning: It is critical to do this before carrying out steps (4) & (5). This auto exe file edits the registry to allow .eml files to be opened on the desktop; removes the WinMail splash screen at start-up; and resolves various conflicts.

But I have already done 4 and 5?
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08 Mar 2010   #336
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by megko View Post
I have installed Windows Mail into Win 7 as above. But I cannot open any .eml files saved in my windows explorer. Each time I click on the .eml file, the inbox opened up instead.
I have already set windows mail as my default program. Only by selecting windows live mail at the "open with" options, could I read the email. How can I open my .eml file without using windows live mail?
Windows Live Mail can cause conflicts with Windows Mail. I would suggest saving all your email files from WinLive then uninstall it using the Control Panel/Programs & Features option.

Then open the post found here. Save and run the attachment in step one named WinMailEdit. This regedit file will allow emails to open on desktop, remove the WinMail splash screen and resolve various conflicts. Also do step two re removing WinMail attributes.

If this doesn't fix it, I'd suggest deleting all files in Windows Mail and restoring the original Windows 7 Windows Mail files. Then enable Windows Mail applying all the steps in the post mentioned above in the order as shown. Read the post fully before starting.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB
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08 Mar 2010   #337
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
Can someone copy an .eml file to the desktop, take and post a screenshot of how it appears here? I think that I have something fishy going on with my default icons, not just .eml but others as well. For some reason, I don't remember icons having a white sheet of paper as a background to the default icon on the desktop or in explorer. Also it's now showing up in the bottom status preview in Explorer for folders as well. It may have always been like this but I don't remember it. I have a notion as to what it is and just for the record it is unrelated to WinMail hackery.
Thanks
Hi Greg,

Seems like old times again. Here's an attachment showing a Winodws Mail .eml email file saved to Desktop.

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For some reason I've also suddenly had a few files showing up as a white sheet with top left corner turned down. In particular, saved pages of Web sites, which normally present as a picture icon. The web site still opened when the icon was clicked. Another one was the address book from XP which I saved to desktop to import contacts as a test. It also saved as a white sheet, but wouldn't open to import the contacts as it normally does.

If you find out what's going on, can you let me know. I also wondered if maybe the original method for importing WinMail in this tutorial should be omitted or at least modified to the post version No 317 that you researched and developed? The same problems keep recurring when the original tutorial method is used, such as .eml files not opening, or original Windows 7 files being corrupted/replaced and causing conflicts. Would appreciate your thoughts in a PM.

Cheers buddy, Bernie.


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08 Mar 2010   #338
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by primal View Post
I have windows 7 64 version 6.1 build 7600 on a new pc and win vista 32 bit on a laptop. I tried to follow the tutorial and take ownership worked fine. I copied my winmail from my 32 bit laptop to the win 7 machine. I got a bit confused about what folder to paste the 32 bit win mail into so I tried both

But when I click on the shortcut on the desktop it does not open.

What happens is that I get multi copies of winmail.exe*32 in task manager. I have to log off to get rid of them. When I click on the mailto link in IE8 I get a message "could not perform this operation because the default mail client is not properly installed."

I was not able to download the 64 files referred to as they had been removed. Found them now I think. I put the 64 bit msoe.dll in the ordinary program files but still it will not open. Just get multi copies of winmail.exe*32 in task manager


Thanks

I found post 317 at Windows Mail which says

1. Download and run the attachment: WinMailEdit.zip.

*Warning: It is critical to do this before carrying out steps (4) & (5). This auto exe file edits the registry to allow .eml files to be opened on the desktop; removes the WinMail splash screen at start-up; and resolves various conflicts.

But I have already done 4 and 5?
Unfortunately since you have imported a 32bit Vista copy of Windows Mail into the normal 64bit Windows Mail folder of Windows 7, WinMail.exe will not work, and essential 64bit Windows Mail files will have been deleted/corrupted.

As you discovered, there are two Windows Mail folders in Windows 7. What you will need to do is completely delete the contents of both and restore the original Windows 7 files into these folders. Then carefully read and carry out the steps in Post No 317 found here.

It said at the beginning of this tutorial to backup your existing files in Windows Mail folder, so I hope you have done this, as they must be restored. The Vista 32bit Windows Mail files are not used at all, as all the changes are made in 64bit Windows Mail in the normal Windows 7 64bit program files... See Step 4 and Footnote 3 of the post.

Hope this helps. PB
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08 Mar 2010   #339
primal

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit Version 6.1 Build 7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by primal View Post
I have windows 7 64 version 6.1 build 7600 on a new pc and win vista 32 bit on a laptop. I tried to follow the tutorial and take ownership worked fine. I copied my winmail from my 32 bit laptop to the win 7 machine. I got a bit confused about what folder to paste the 32 bit win mail into so I tried both

But when I click on the shortcut on the desktop it does not open.

What happens is that I get multi copies of winmail.exe*32 in task manager. I have to log off to get rid of them. When I click on the mailto link in IE8 I get a message "could not perform this operation because the default mail client is not properly installed."

I was not able to download the 64 files referred to as they had been removed. Found them now I think. I put the 64 bit msoe.dll in the ordinary program files but still it will not open. Just get multi copies of winmail.exe*32 in task manager


Thanks

I found post 317 at Windows Mail which says

1. Download and run the attachment: WinMailEdit.zip.

*Warning: It is critical to do this before carrying out steps (4) & (5). This auto exe file edits the registry to allow .eml files to be opened on the desktop; removes the WinMail splash screen at start-up; and resolves various conflicts.

But I have already done 4 and 5?
Unfortunately since you have imported a 32bit Vista copy of Windows Mail into the normal 64bit Windows Mail folder of Windows 7, WinMail.exe will not work, and essential 64bit Windows Mail files will have been deleted/corrupted.

As you discovered, there are two Windows Mail folders in Windows 7. What you will need to do is completely delete the contents of both and restore the original Windows 7 files into these folders. Then carefully read and carry out the steps in Post No 317 found here.

It said at the beginning of this tutorial to backup your existing files in Windows Mail folder, so I hope you have done this, as they must be restored. The Vista 32bit Windows Mail files are not used at all, as all the changes are made in 64bit Windows Mail in the normal Windows 7 64bit program files... See Step 4 and Footnote 3 of the post.

Hope this helps. PB
I did not copy my 64 bit win mail folder. Does anyone have the files for this?
There were links in this thread but they have been removed when i clicked them
Does anyone have 64 bit winmail exe
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