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17 Mar 2009   #339
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7




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08 Mar 2010   #340
Neil Rutherford

W7
 
 

Unfortunately, the above didn't work for me, even though I printed out the instructions, but with 'Take Ownership' and a copy of a Vista64 'Windows Mail' folder on a flash drive, everything worked fine.
I've now burnt the two items to CD.
I wonder if Microsoft will listen to those who want OE, and reinstate it in a service patch.

I made the same mistake as the last contributor, trying to load a 32bit version of 'Windows Mail' on to 64bit Windows 7 Pro, and I got the same result when trying to initialise the mail programme.
As soon as I copied a 64bit 'Windows Mail' folder, everything worked as it should.
Many thanks to the OP.


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09 Mar 2010   #341
Ex_Brit

Vista Ult SP2/Win 7 Ult SP1/Win 8.1 Pro w/MC (all x64)
 
 

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I have windows 7 64 version 6.1 build 7600 on a new pc and win vista 32 bit on a laptop. I tried to follow the tutorial and take ownership worked fine. I copied my winmail from my 32 bit laptop to the win 7 machine. I got a bit confused about what folder to paste the 32 bit win mail into so I tried both

But when I click on the shortcut on the desktop it does not open.

What happens is that I get multi copies of winmail.exe*32 in task manager. I have to log off to get rid of them. When I click on the mailto link in IE8 I get a message "could not perform this operation because the default mail client is not properly installed."

I was not able to download the 64 files referred to as they had been removed. Found them now I think. I put the 64 bit msoe.dll in the ordinary program files but still it will not open. Just get multi copies of winmail.exe*32 in task manager


Thanks

I found post 317 at Windows Mail which says

1. Download and run the attachment: WinMailEdit.zip.

*Warning: It is critical to do this before carrying out steps (4) & (5). This auto exe file edits the registry to allow .eml files to be opened on the desktop; removes the WinMail splash screen at start-up; and resolves various conflicts.

But I have already done 4 and 5?
Unfortunately since you have imported a 32bit Vista copy of Windows Mail into the normal 64bit Windows Mail folder of Windows 7, WinMail.exe will not work, and essential 64bit Windows Mail files will have been deleted/corrupted.

As you discovered, there are two Windows Mail folders in Windows 7. What you will need to do is completely delete the contents of both and restore the original Windows 7 files into these folders. Then carefully read and carry out the steps in Post No 317 found here.

It said at the beginning of this tutorial to backup your existing files in Windows Mail folder, so I hope you have done this, as they must be restored. The Vista 32bit Windows Mail files are not used at all, as all the changes are made in 64bit Windows Mail in the normal Windows 7 64bit program files... See Step 4 and Footnote 3 of the post.

Hope this helps. PB
I did not copy my 64 bit win mail folder. Does anyone have the files for this?
There were links in this thread but they have been removed when i clicked them
Does anyone have 64 bit winmail exe
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09 Mar 2010   #342
primal

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit Version 6.1 Build 7600
 
 

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Unfortunately since you have imported a 32bit Vista copy of Windows Mail into the normal 64bit Windows Mail folder of Windows 7, WinMail.exe will not work, and essential 64bit Windows Mail files will have been deleted/corrupted.

As you discovered, there are two Windows Mail folders in Windows 7. What you will need to do is completely delete the contents of both and restore the original Windows 7 files into these folders. Then carefully read and carry out the steps in Post No 317 found here.

It said at the beginning of this tutorial to backup your existing files in Windows Mail folder, so I hope you have done this, as they must be restored. The Vista 32bit Windows Mail files are not used at all, as all the changes are made in 64bit Windows Mail in the normal Windows 7 64bit program files... See Step 4 and Footnote 3 of the post.

Hope this helps. PB
I did not copy my 64 bit win mail folder. Does anyone have the files for this?
There were links in this thread but they have been removed when i clicked them
Does anyone have 64 bit winmail exe
Ex Brit Thanks for the offer. I had managed to get a copy in the meantime. Thanks to my benefactor! I did everything in post 317 but it does not work. Nothing happens when clicked on desktop but winmail.exe is in task manager. Not even right click run as administrator helps

Click on mailto in IE8 still gives message could not perform operation default mail client not properly installed

Should there be a visible wimail.exe in the program files? The one there is hidden and re hidden at the end
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09 Mar 2010   #343
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

[/QUOTE]
I did not copy my 64 bit win mail folder. Does anyone have the files for this?
There were links in this thread but they have been removed when i clicked them
Does anyone have 64 bit winmail exe[/QUOTE]

Here what i can find for you and others...attached zips.

I've installed it and does work pretty fine here.


EDIT:

OOPS!
I've remove zips as it looks violation policy...sorry!
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09 Mar 2010   #344
primal

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit Version 6.1 Build 7600
 
 

I did not copy my 64 bit win mail folder. Does anyone have the files for this?
There were links in this thread but they have been removed when i clicked them
Does anyone have 64 bit winmail exe[/QUOTE]

Here what i can find for you and others...attached zips.

I've installed it and does work pretty fine here.


EDIT:

OOPS!
I've remove zips as it looks violation policy...sorry![/QUOTE]Hi As you can see from my last post i managed to get the files but thanks anyway, still not working for me tho
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09 Mar 2010   #345
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by primal View Post
I did not copy my 64 bit win mail folder. Does anyone have the files for this?
There were links in this thread but they have been removed when i clicked them
Does anyone have 64 bit winmail exe
Here what i can find for you and others...attached zips.

I've installed it and does work pretty fine here.


EDIT:

OOPS!
I've remove zips as it looks violation policy...sorry!

[/QUOTE]
Hi As you can see from my last post i managed to get the files but thanks anyway, still not working for me tho[/QUOTE]
==================================================================

That's a shame it does not work...

Backup before x86 & x64 "Windows Mail" folder in a safe place.

-Create a new folder inside both "Windows mail" folder.

-Copy the New files inside this new folder.

SAFE MODE: (F8 on boot)

-GO and Install all in "safe mode"

- Go Control Panel=>In Option Folders, uncheck hidden files of the system and point show hidden files

-INSTALL the .reg to allow Windows Mail openning .eml on desktop.http://www.sevenforums.com/attachmen...inmailedit.zip

- NOW replace files one by one:

Taking Ownership and modifying security in Propreties of each files for Total Control of the Windows 7 => Windows Mail folder files

-Then rename them All (.-old)...

-NOW move the new files in to x86 and x64 windows Mail folder.

-Do the same the x86 & x64, US-us folders (or your native language)

(don't paste any of them).

After having moving the New Files

ONE BY ONE, OPEN THE NEW FILES FRESHLY MOVED AND UNLOCK THE FILES.

Reboot, enter your session and then...do it!
==================================================================

It's pretty long, but worth a try.
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09 Mar 2010   #346
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 
WinMail not working

Hi Primal,

Sorry to hear post 317 didn't work for you. The method there has been thoroughly tested for importing WinMail from 32 and 64bit Vista to 32 and 64bit Windows 7 installations; and has worked on bare bones installations of Windows 7 as well as fully loaded installations. So the method itself is safe and reliable.

It seems that somewhere in your system you've got residual files that are corrupted or conflicting, and these need to be completely removed before reinstalling clean copies of Windows 7 original Windows Mail folders into the 32bit and 64bit program files.

You probably should also do a registry clean with something like ToniArts Easycleaner, or Glary Utilites, both freeware programs. And just to be safe, also remove all files in Local Folders found here: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders

Then follow the steps in strict order as shown in post 317. Please note however, only the 64bit Windows Mail folder msoe.dll file is replaced with the Vista 64bit equivalent msoe.dll. You do not modify the Windows Mail folder in Program files (x86). Do you remember if you used a 64 or 32bit msoe.dll from Vista? The 64bit Vista msoe.dll file is available as an attachment in Step 4 of Post 317.

As you correctly stated, invisible files, extensions and hidden operating system files all need to be visible when carrying out the procedure. Once WinMail.exe in 64bit Program files has been sent to desktop as a shortcut, then the hidden files etc can be hidden again.

Also note, if you click on WinMail.exe to try and open it before you have completed all the steps, it can bork the process.

Good luck PB
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09 Mar 2010   #347
primal

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit Version 6.1 Build 7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Hi Primal,

Sorry to hear post 317 didn't work for you. The method there has been thoroughly tested for importing WinMail from 32 and 64bit Vista to 32 and 64bit Windows 7 installations; and has worked on bare bones installations of Windows 7 as well as fully loaded installations. So the method itself is safe and reliable.

It seems that somewhere in your system you've got residual files that are corrupted or conflicting, and these need to be completely removed before reinstalling clean copies of Windows 7 original Windows Mail folders into the 32bit and 64bit program files.

You probably should also do a registry clean with something like ToniArts Easycleaner, or Glary Utilites, both freeware programs. And just to be safe, also remove all files in Local Folders found here: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders

Then follow the steps in strict order as shown in post 317. Please note however, only the 64bit Windows Mail folder msoe.dll file is replaced with the Vista 64bit equivalent msoe.dll. You do not modify the Windows Mail folder in Program files (x86). Do you remember if you used a 64 or 32bit msoe.dll from Vista? The 64bit Vista msoe.dll file is available as an attachment in Step 4 of Post 317.

As you correctly stated, invisible files, extensions and hidden operating system files all need to be visible when carrying out the procedure. Once WinMail.exe in 64bit Program files has been sent to desktop as a shortcut, then the hidden files etc can be hidden again.

Also note, if you click on WinMail.exe to try and open it before you have completed all the steps, it can bork the process.

Good luck PB
Quote:
Then follow the steps in strict order as shown in post 317. Please note however, only the 64bit Windows Mail folder msoe.dll file is replaced with the Vista 64bit equivalent msoe.dll. You do not modify the Windows Mail folder in Program files (x86). Do you remember if you used a 64 or 32bit msoe.dll from Vista? The 64bit Vista msoe.dll file is available as an attachment in Step 4 of Post 317.
Thanks PB Yes I used the 64 bit msoe.dll OK I understand the files can be hidden again. I did not click on WinMAil.exe before doing all steps
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09 Mar 2010   #348
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

@primal,

Sorry to have explain the most complicated way but I was as you before and did have hard time to replace files in the Windows Mail folder.

Denied over Denied when was trying move files...even taking ownership!

What i ommit to say is that i had re-replace the original Win 7 files after, and have let only the needed file msoe.dll.
That's why i did kept/saved originals in a safe folder.

Hope Poppa Bear's help (the original solution) will work for you. It should as it works for me.

Cheers.
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09 Mar 2010   #349
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Hi Primal, re:
Quote:
Thanks PB Yes I used the 64 bit msoe.dll OK I understand the files can be hidden again. I did not click on WinMAil.exe before doing all steps
I'm assuming that after doing everything suggested, it is still not working?

OK it seems fairly certain that the problem is corrupted files. I assume you have still got copies of the original Windows 7 folders for Windows Mail 32 & 64 bit, as comes with a clean instal of Windoows 7? If this is the case, delete all Windows Mail folders totally, not just the files inside the folders, from both sets of program files. Click the attached pic to enlarge to show location.

Windows Mail-program-files-x86-.png

Now open: Start Orb --> All Programs --> Accessories --> Run

In the Run box type: sfc /scannow --> Click: OK. Let the scan complete.

This should replace any corrupted or missing original system files.

Once the scan is finished, check your program files to see if there are any Windows Mail folders. If they are present and complete, (compare them to your saved original Windows Mail folders that came installed in Windows 7), do the steps in Post 317.

If they are not present, open:

Start Orb --> Computer --> C Drive --> Program Files --> Copy the original 64bit Wndows Mail folder into normal Program Files. This folder must be named as it originally appeared, that is: Windows Mail.

Now open: Start Orb --> Computer --> C Drive --> Program Files --> Copy the original 32bit Wndows Mail folder into Program Files(x86), and make sure name is also Windows Mail.

Now open: Start Orb --> Computer --> Right click: C Drive --> In drop down menu choose: Properties --> Tools Tab --> Click: Check Now --> Start --> Schedule Disk Check --> Re-boot PC.

On re-start it will do a quick system scan. Once re-booted, now apply the steps in Post 317.

Good luck. PB


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