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03-17-2009
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#379 | | Windows 7 Ultimate Vista Ultimate x64 |
Windows Mail How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7
Last edited by Brink; 10-24-2011 at 10:21 AM..
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SATA II 250GB
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02-20-2010
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#380 | | Vista Ultimate SP2/Windows 7 Ultimate SP1/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM |
You'd have to ask Brink or someone to cross-ref it I guess. I only suggested that so that people looking for Windows Calendar specifically would find it easier.
I found WinCalEdit.zip using a search and for some reason I can't duplicate that now, but I did find the right one as it worked. Somehow I managed to get a search result only for attachments...don't ask.
I remember there were three references to it and 2 appeared to be quite small so I ignored those.
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ultimate SP2/Windows 7 Ultimate SP1/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 28mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
02-20-2010
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#381 | | Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail |

Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit You'd have to ask Brink or someone to cross-ref it I guess. I only suggested that so that people looking for Windows Calendar specifically would find it easier.
I found WinCalEdit.zip using a search and for some reason I can't duplicate that now, but I did find the right one as it worked. Somehow I managed to get a search result only for attachments...don't ask.
I remember there were three references to it and 2 appeared to be quite small so I ignored those. The attachment WinCalEdit.zip was included in Step 5 of Post 317: How to Enable WinMail. And that works fine, so I assume your search must have found that one. Anyway, the one in Post 375 also now works, thanks to you alerting me to it.
Cheers PB | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-assembled OS Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail CPU Intel i7 960 quad core Motherboard Intel DX58SO2 Extreme Memory 12 GB Kingston DDR 3 1300 Graphics Card PCI Express Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Sound Card Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Graphics/5 Sound card Monitor(s) Displays Samsung WS Syncmaster S23A350H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Intellitype Wireless Multimedia Mouse Microsoft Intellipoint2 Wireless Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced Mid Tower Cooling CPU, top, front and rear extractor fans Hard Drives OS on 128 GB Corsair SSD SATA 3 + Storage on 1 TB Western Digital Black SATA 2 Internet Speed 100 MB/sec Theoretical max. Actual average 0.5MB/sec Other Info Back-up PC with Vista Ultimate OEM 32bit. Intel i5 2400 Quad Core CPU, DH67CL mobo, 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1300 RAM, |
02-20-2010
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#382 | | Vista Ultimate SP2/Windows 7 Ultimate SP1/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM |
You're welcome. Not getting email notifications of posts from here all of a sudden so I have to keep monitoring.
Wish I could remember how I got up a search for attachments only as it was useful. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ultimate SP2/Windows 7 Ultimate SP1/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 28mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
02-20-2010
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#383 | | Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail |

Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit You're welcome. Not getting email notifications of posts from here all of a sudden so I have to keep monitoring.
Wish I could remember how I got up a search for attachments only as it was useful. Unfortunately can't help on that one as too new to forum, but let me know if you find a way. Would be useful info to have.
Cheers PB | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-assembled OS Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail CPU Intel i7 960 quad core Motherboard Intel DX58SO2 Extreme Memory 12 GB Kingston DDR 3 1300 Graphics Card PCI Express Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Sound Card Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Graphics/5 Sound card Monitor(s) Displays Samsung WS Syncmaster S23A350H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Intellitype Wireless Multimedia Mouse Microsoft Intellipoint2 Wireless Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced Mid Tower Cooling CPU, top, front and rear extractor fans Hard Drives OS on 128 GB Corsair SSD SATA 3 + Storage on 1 TB Western Digital Black SATA 2 Internet Speed 100 MB/sec Theoretical max. Actual average 0.5MB/sec Other Info Back-up PC with Vista Ultimate OEM 32bit. Intel i5 2400 Quad Core CPU, DH67CL mobo, 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1300 RAM, |
02-21-2010
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#384 | | Vista Ultimate SP2/Windows 7 Ultimate SP1/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM |
I haven't yet managed to repeat it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware® ALX X58 OS Vista Ultimate SP2/Windows 7 Ultimate SP1/x64/XP SP3 x86 in VM CPU Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache Motherboard Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366 Memory 12GB DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 2048MB Graphics Card 1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295/Hauppauge HVR2250 TV Tuner Sound Card Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio Monitor(s) Displays Samsung XL2370 LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft® Wireless Entertainment 8000 + Logitech® G15 Wired Mouse Microsoft® Wireless Laser 8000 + Logitech® G9 Wired PSU Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU Case Alienware® P2 ALX Chassis with AlienIce™ 3.0 Video Cooling Cooling Alienware® High-Perf. Liquid Cooling + Acoustic Dampening Hard Drives 2 x 500gb SATA II
1 x 1TB SATA II
1 external eSATA LaCie 1TB
(Non-RAID) Internet Speed 28mbps Other Info Using non-RAID on purpose as I find RAID to be too temperamental.
I've noticed no difference since switching. |
02-21-2010
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#385 | | windows 7 ultimate 64 bit |
Recovered folder This is where the problem is....I have already moved the APP folder with no problem...and then when WINMAIL comes up in Windows 7...the recovered folders are created....again..no problem....but once I have moved all the emails etc...and then I delete the recovered folders....... THEN...when Winmail starts again...it creates the recovered folders again........each time windows7 starts, it makes the recovered folders....this is what I am looking to stop before I delete everything and start over again... Don 
Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear How to import Windows Mail Contacts, Accounts, Folders & Emails from Vista to Windows 7. 1. Easy Method. Emails, Folders & Accounts: - In Vista open: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders
- Copy the entire contents of Local Folders
- In Windows 7 open: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders
- Paste the copied contents of Local Folders from Vista into the Windows 7 Local Folders, replacing files as detected
- When prompted, enter your User Name/Password for your ISP.
You now have all your emails, folders and accounts set up. Contacts: - Open Start Orb --> User Name --> Contacts.
- Drag & drop the contents of this folder onto a data USB stick
- Drag & drop from the USB stick into the equivalent folder in Windows 7.
2. Manual Method:- Open WinMail application on the Vista desktop.
- In Local Folders: Drag and drop contents of each sub-folder onto a USB data stick. That is: Inbox, Outbox, Sent Items & Drafts.
- Open WinMail on desktop of Windows 7.
- Drag and drop contents of Inbox, Outbox, etc, from the USB stick into the corresponding folders of Local Folders in WinMail.
- Set up email accounts manually.
Whole process takes about 12 - 15 minutes. Note: If the whole Windows Mail folder is imported from AppData, and pasted into the existing equivalent Windows Mail folder in Windows 7, it will create a new folder called "Recovered Folders" with sub-folders of Inbox, Outbox, etc. It will then be necessary to manually drag/drop the contents of each sub-folder into the sub-folders of Local Folders. And finally, delete the "Recovered Folders" folder.
It also causes a corruption which will usually auto-fix, but better not to have at all.
Using the easy method avoids both these problems.
Cheers PB | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba OS windows 7 ultimate 64 bit CPU T5550 @ 1.83 ghz Memory 4GB Case laptop Hard Drives 250 |
02-21-2010
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#386 | | Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail |
To Don DeBaer re: Quote: This is where the problem is....I have already moved the APP folder with no problem...and then when WINMAIL comes up in Windows 7...the recovered folders are created....again..no problem....but once I have moved all the emails etc...and then I delete the recovered folders....... THEN...when Winmail starts again...it creates the recovered folders again........each time windows7 starts, it makes the recovered folders....this is what I am looking to stop before I delete everything and start over again... Don Yes, I understand what you're saying now, but I don't have an answer off-hand as to why this is happening.
When you transferred your data from your old PC I'm assuming you transferred the whole Windows Mail folder from AppData? And pasted that into the existing Windows Mail folder in AppData in Windows 7??? I'm assuming this, because if you had used the method in post No 374 you wouldn't get any Recovered Folders in the first place. Also you will have replaced some Windows 7 system files with Vista system files. This would have caused you to get an error message that a corruption had occurred but been fixed.
That would seem to be the obvious answer to what's causing your problem. However, it could also be a memory issue.
Also, if you used the Export/Import method of transferring you would get "Recovered Folders" sub-folder in Local Folders.
1. As a first step to fix it, go to: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders.
In Local Folders, is there a folder called: " Recovered M 2a8"? If there is, after you've moved all your files you want saved to local folders, delete this folder. Also if there are any other "Recovered" files or folders, delete them also, and see if that fixes the problem.
2. If the problem still persists. Do you have a copy of the Windows7 original Windows Mail folder from: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail?
If you do, I'd suggest completely deleting all the existing files in the Windows Mail folder, and re-installing the original Windows 7 files. Then import only the Local Folders files from Windows Mail in Vista AppData, as per the preceding post No 374. If this doesn't fix the problem proceed to the next step.
3. When you imported Windows Mail, did you import the whole Vista Windows Mail folder, or just the " msoe.dll" file as per post No 317? If you imported the whole folder that could also cause conflicts, as once again, you will have replaced some Windows 7 sytem files with Vista files.
In this case I'd suggest deleting the entire contents of Windows Mail in program files and re-install the original Windows 7 Windows Mail files. Then import only the "msoe.dll" file from Vista as per post No 317 found here.
Some other member may have a simpler solution to your problem but without more information that's the best I can offer at this point.
Hope it helps. PB
Last edited by poppa bear; 02-23-2010 at 12:38 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-assembled OS Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail CPU Intel i7 960 quad core Motherboard Intel DX58SO2 Extreme Memory 12 GB Kingston DDR 3 1300 Graphics Card PCI Express Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Sound Card Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Graphics/5 Sound card Monitor(s) Displays Samsung WS Syncmaster S23A350H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Intellitype Wireless Multimedia Mouse Microsoft Intellipoint2 Wireless Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced Mid Tower Cooling CPU, top, front and rear extractor fans Hard Drives OS on 128 GB Corsair SSD SATA 3 + Storage on 1 TB Western Digital Black SATA 2 Internet Speed 100 MB/sec Theoretical max. Actual average 0.5MB/sec Other Info Back-up PC with Vista Ultimate OEM 32bit. Intel i5 2400 Quad Core CPU, DH67CL mobo, 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1300 RAM, |
03-03-2010
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#387 | | |
Hi!
After several days of scouring the Web for good information on the Windows Mail issue (Moving from Vista to Windows 7) I found this site and have been heavily using serveral of the tutorials here. However I'm still stumped and not sure what to do. Sorry for the lengthly e-mail, but I want to provide as much detail as possible.
In a nutshell, after getting WinMail to work in Win 7 I'm having to manually move a lot of my messages. I do this by opening up WinMail, creating the appropriate mail folders under the inbox folder and then closing WinMail. Using Explorer I'm copying all of the *.eml files (and a folder file) from my backup to the new folder(s) and when I restart WinMail the message are available to read.
However, along the way something screwy is happening, WinMail will create a recovered Messages folder and start reading everything from my Users\David\Local Folders directory and create a whole set of folders and sub-folders as shown in an example below.
I feel that part of the problem may be the path that defines where the messages are stored, because depending on how I structure the path, I end up with different "results" So I think I need some help understanding what the correct path stucture should look like, and... how (or does) the User\AppData\Microsoft\Windows Mail\ folders have any bearing on the operation of WinMail in this case?
Once I can figure out how to stop all of these recovered folders being created I'll be good to go with all of my e-mails having been recovered!
Also, I might have missed the tutorial on how to manually import account settings, if someone can point me to that I'd appreciate it, but it's not a big concern to me...
Thanks for any assistance!
Edit: Hmmm... maybe the answer is in the couple pages preceeding this message. I honestly didn't go through all 39 pages of this thread, only about 20 :-)
Last edited by DavidJ; 03-03-2010 at 11:12 AM..
Reason: Update
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03-04-2010
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#388 | | Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail |
To DavidJ re: Quote: In a nutshell, after getting WinMail to work in Win 7 I'm having to manually move a lot of my messages. I do this by opening up WinMail, creating the appropriate mail folders under the inbox folder and then closing WinMail. Using Explorer I'm copying all of the *.eml files (and a folder file) from my backup to the new folder(s) and when I restart WinMail the message are available to read.
However, along the way something screwy is happening, WinMail will create a recovered Messages folder and start reading everything from my Users\David\Local Folders directory and create a whole set of folders and sub-folders as shown in an example below. The key to the whole thing really lies in the method used to import the folders, emails, accounts. You mention you have copied folder files as well as emails, by copying them from Explorer, and I suspect that's where the problem lies. You can't just copy a sub-file from Local Folders in Vista WinMail.exe desktop application. It has to come from Local Folders here: Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders. In this location, it is linked to the Local Folders in WinMail.exe interface on the desktop. And the link is retained when it is copied/pasted into the equivalent Local Folders in Windows 7.
I'm assuming you're importing from Vista. If you're importing from Outlook Express it's a whole different ball game. This is a link here to a tutorial showing how to import from Outlook Express to WinMail in Vista or Windows 7.
The simplest trouble-free method from Vista to Windows 7 is the one shown in my post here. In this method, the entire contents of the WinMail sub-folder in AppsData in Windows 7 is deleted; and replaced with the entire contents of the equivalent folder from Vista. This way there are no recovered folders, and all custom folders you have in WinMail Vista will be set up automatically, unless they are empty, in which case they will not be carried across. It also sets up your accounts at the same time, except for putting in your user name/password for your ISP for which you will be prompted the first time you run the application.
Don DeBaer had a similar problem in post post No 385 two back. If you read my reply in post No 386 it might throw some light on the problem. If you have used the export emails option from WinMail in Vista, and the import option in WinMail Windows 7, you will get Recovered Folders set up in WinMail in Windows 7.
First off I'd suggest backing up all your emails to storage folders on your desktop or USB stick, by dragging & dropping them from Local Folders in Vista WinMail interface on desktop. Do the same in WinMail in Windows 7. Then follow the steps in the linked post shown above. Any saved emails from WinMail in Windows 7 will then have to be drag/dropped into the appropriate folders once they're set up.
Hope this helps. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-assembled OS Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail CPU Intel i7 960 quad core Motherboard Intel DX58SO2 Extreme Memory 12 GB Kingston DDR 3 1300 Graphics Card PCI Express Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Sound Card Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Graphics/5 Sound card Monitor(s) Displays Samsung WS Syncmaster S23A350H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Intellitype Wireless Multimedia Mouse Microsoft Intellipoint2 Wireless Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced Mid Tower Cooling CPU, top, front and rear extractor fans Hard Drives OS on 128 GB Corsair SSD SATA 3 + Storage on 1 TB Western Digital Black SATA 2 Internet Speed 100 MB/sec Theoretical max. Actual average 0.5MB/sec Other Info Back-up PC with Vista Ultimate OEM 32bit. Intel i5 2400 Quad Core CPU, DH67CL mobo, 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1300 RAM, |
03-04-2010
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Thanks Poppa Bear, UPDATE on 03/04 9:15PM CST: Problems Solved! Thanks for pointing me to the proper post!
The one issue I didn't discuss above, is that after partioning & installing Windows 7 for a dual boot, I ended up with some strange issues where when I boot into Vista, I end up at a black screen after the welcome screen is displayed. I can ctrl-alt-del and ultimately pull up the task manager, but that's about it.
So all I can do is boot into Windows 7 and work with what I have, such as backed up folders.
I can see the contents of the partition where Vista is installed, but with all that I've been trying this past week to recover, things seem kinda "screwy" for example, I can't see theD:\Users\David\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders\Inbox folder in the Explorer tree, but I can find it when searching for the appdata folder is the search window of Explorer. I checked/un checked the option in Windows Explorer to show hidden & protected files & folders...
I'm perplexed!
So first I'll try the following;
The simplest trouble-free method from Vista to Windows 7 is the one shown in my post here. In this method, the entire contents of the WinMail sub-folder in AppsData in Windows 7 is deleted; and replaced with the entire contents of the equivalent folder from Vista. This way there are no recovered folders, and all custom folders you have in WinMail Vista will be set up automatically, unless they are empty, in which case they will not be carried across. It also sets up your accounts at the same time, except for putting in your user name/password for your ISP for which you will be prompted the first time you run the application.
If that doesn't work I'll review all of these other posts you outlined and see if I can't cobble some sort of a solution together where I'm not relying on the Vista install.
Thanks!
Last edited by DavidJ; 03-04-2010 at 10:14 PM..
Reason: To mark problem as Solved!
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