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17 Mar 2009   #509
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
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How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7




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23 May 2010   #510
primal

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit Version 6.1 Build 7600
 
 

I downloaded the new msoe.dll from step 4 on first page and it did not work.Am wary of hacking registry as in footnote. Is there a safe way to back up registry
I did a system restore to before the update that crippled winmail and got winmail back but i realise tha the update is necessary


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23 May 2010   #511
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by primal View Post
I downloaded the new msoe.dll from step 4 on first page and it did not work.Am wary of hacking registry as in footnote. Is there a safe way to back up registry
@primal,

I think you do not need a backup...If you start in safe mode (best way to avoid restriction due to UAC)

Just remane the msoe.dll-old and replace it by the new one, in the folder after having unlock the file. Restart and see if it's works, then delete the msoe.dll-old.

Be sure to follow each step to unhidde the files & folders.
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23 May 2010   #512
Moonlight

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Thank you, Poppa Bear. I understand. I will unhide the update, download and install it. Then, I'll go through the tutorial procedure again. I still have the downloaded zip of msoe.dll from the tutorial page. Thank you, again, for your explanation. ~ Gail
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24 May 2010   #513
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

To Primal re:
Quote:
I downloaded the new msoe.dll from step 4 on first page and it did not work.Am wary of hacking registry as in footnote. Is there a safe way to back up registry
I did a system restore to before the update that crippled winmail and got winmail back but i realize that the update is necessary
I assume you carried out the following steps.

1. Did a system restore so the KB update was gone and WinMail was working again

2. Replaced the old msoe.dll with the new one.

3. Downloaded the update KB978542.

The problem is by downloading the KB978542 update AFTER you installed the new modified msoe.dll, the KB update would then modify the latest msoe.dll and bork WinMail again.

The trick is to do things in the right order as follows:

1. If you've done a system restore, first download the KB update.

2. Only then replace the old msoe.dll with the new modified msoe.dll from the download link in Step 4.

This will allow WinMail to work again, and since you already have the KB978542 update installed, when you next run an update search Microsoft will recognize that KB978542 update is already installed and will not install it again, which would bork WinMail.

To Moonlight re:
Quote:
Thank you, Poppa Bear. I understand. I will unhide the update, download and install it. Then, I'll go through the tutorial procedure again. I still have the downloaded zip of msoe.dll from the tutorial page. Thank you, again, for your explanation. ~ Gail
You're welcome Gail. You shouldn't really need to do the whole tutorial again, just replace the msoe.dll file with the new one after you've got the KB update installed.

You may possibly have to Take Ownership of the old msoe.dll to remove it because when the KB update modified the old one, it would now treat it as a protected Windows operating system file.

Cheers PB
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24 May 2010   #514
primal

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit Version 6.1 Build 7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
To Primal re:
Quote:
I downloaded the new msoe.dll from step 4 on first page and it did not work.Am wary of hacking registry as in footnote. Is there a safe way to back up registry
I did a system restore to before the update that crippled winmail and got winmail back but i realize that the update is necessary
I assume you carried out the following steps.

1. Did a system restore so the KB update was gone and WinMail was working again

2. Replaced the old msoe.dll with the new one.

3. Downloaded the update KB978542.

The problem is by downloading the KB978542 update AFTER you installed the new modified msoe.dll, the KB update would then modify the latest msoe.dll and bork WinMail again.

The trick is to do things in the right order as follows:

1. If you've done a system restore, first download the KB update.

2. Only then replace the old msoe.dll with the new modified msoe.dll from the download link in Step 4.

This will allow WinMail to work again, and since you already have the KB978542 update installed, when you next run an update search Microsoft will recognize that KB978542 update is already installed and will not install it again, which would bork WinMail.
Hi PB I only did the system restore because the new msoe.dll after the KB978542 update installed,made no diference hence it seems i will have to reg edit
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24 May 2010   #515
mosaabalmaki

windows 7 ultimate 64 bit
 
 

thanks now windows is back but when its not the defualt email sender, when i hit email link a window of office outlook is open and the programm sending the emails is still office outlook, i tried to solve this from programs association but still didnt work.
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24 May 2010   #516
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mosaabalmaki View Post
thanks now windows is back but when its not the defualt email sender, when i hit email link a window of office outlook is open and the programm sending the emails is still office outlook, i tried to solve this from programs association but still didnt work.
You'll have to set it by default with the file provided on first page...aka: SetWinMailDefault.zip
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24 May 2010   #517
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

To Primal re:
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Hi PB I only did the system restore because the new msoe.dll after the KB978542 update installed, made no diference hence it seems I will have to reg edit
Hi Primal,

I don't know what's going on there. I've tested the new msoe.dll file on both 32 & 64bit operating systems and it's worked fine on both. In fact on most 32bit installations the KB update doesn't even bork Windows Mail. With 64bit it's an absolute must to replace it.

Just a thought, but did you make sure you used the 64bit msoe.dll file if you're using a 64bit installation of Windows 7; and of course, put it in the normal Program Files, not Program files(x86)?

Maybe you will have to run the whole tutorial from the beginning?

Hope this helps. PB
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24 May 2010   #518
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mosaabalmaki View Post
thanks now windows is back but when its not the defualt email sender, when i hit email link a window of office outlook is open and the programm sending the emails is still office outlook, i tried to solve this from programs association but still didnt work.
I've had a few reports of this happening where Office outlook is installed.

You could try the following:

1. Click on Start Orb --> All Programs --> Default Programs --> Click: Set your default programs.

2. In the left panel: Highlight Windows Mail --> Click: Set this program as default.

If this doesn't work you may need to uninstall Outlook from your Office installation. The best way to do this is using your Office installation disk, not through Control Panel.

Hope this helps. PB
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24 May 2010   #519
NoN

Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 [Non-UEFI Boot]
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mosaabalmaki View Post
thanks now windows is back but when its not the defualt email sender, when i hit email link a window of office outlook is open and the programm sending the emails is still office outlook, i tried to solve this from programs association but still didnt work.
I've had a few reports of this happening where Office outlook is installed.

You could try the following:

1. Click on Start Orb --> All Programs --> Default Programs --> Click: Set your default programs.

2. In the left panel: Highlight Windows Mail --> Click: Set this program as default.

If this doesn't work you may need to uninstall Outlook from your Office installation. The best way to do this is using your Office installation disk, not through Control Panel.

Hope this helps. PB
The probs doing that, hide again the Windows Mail...

Not changing the new msoe.dll, but you'll have to unhidde files & folders again and recreate the shorcut on desktop to pin it in the menu or taskbar....
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