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Windows 7: Windows Mail

17 Mar 2009   #519
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 
Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7



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24 May 2010   #520
primal

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit Version 6.1 Build 7600
 
 

[QUOTE=poppa bear;751289]To Primal re:
Hi PB I only did the system restore because the new msoe.dll after the KB978542 update installed, made no diference hence it seems I will have to reg edit
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Hi Primal

I don't know what's going on there. I've tested the new msoe.dll file on both 32 & 64bit operating systems and it's worked fine on both. In fact on most 32bit installations the KB update doesn't even bork Windows Mail. With 64bit it's an absolute must to replace it.,
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Just a thought, but did you make sure you used the 64bit msoe.dll file if you're using a 64bit installation of Windows 7; and of course, put it in the normal Program Files, not Program files(x86)?
sure did PB know that cos I got it wrong a couple times
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Maybe you will have to run the whole tutorial from the beginning?
think i will do a disk image and then hack the reg

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Hope this helps. PB
thanks PB

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25 May 2010   #521
Tocapet

Windows 7 Home Premium X64
 
 

In my case, I downloaded and extracted the new MSOE.DLL following the instructions and got it working again. But I am not able to take ownership of the old one. Not even with the little "take ownership" prog. that's posted on here. SO, I had to copy it with Ubuntu Linux. But it works! Ubuntu is your friend. Keep a bootable CD around for times like this!
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25 May 2010   #522
primal

Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit Version 6.1 Build 7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Ex_Brit View Post

In the future, this situation will occur everytime Windows Mail is patched in Windows 7, as msoe.dll will be replaced each time. So in the future, anyone who is hacking Windows 7 by replacing msoe.dll from Vista, will continue to have to get the patched version of the Vista dll and replace it, as in this situation.

steve

MS-MVP
Outlook Express / Windows Mail
So, are we hornswoggled? Is there any way around that?
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26 May 2010   #523
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by primal View Post
So, are we hornswoggled? Is there any way around that?
This update should be a one off. The potential security breach has been fixed. I'd be very surprised if it recurred, and since all of the other Windows Mail files are original Windows 7 files, any updates to them will not bork WinMail.

Cheers Pb
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27 May 2010   #524
mick823

Win 7 Professional and Windows 8 Professional
 
 

Ever since the security update "borked" the msoe.dll, I am having a strange problem where the same message is showing up in both my inbox and junk mail folder. The full content of the message is visible in the junk mail but the same message appears in the inbox with a message in the preview pane that "the content of this message cannot be found". My Junk E-mail option is set to "Safe List Only" and "Also trust e-mail from my Windows contacts". I have three Windows 7 PC's running Windows Mail and all have the same problem. Anybody else having this issue? Screenshot attached.


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27 May 2010   #525
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mick823 View Post
Ever since the security update "borked" the msoe.dll, I am having a strange problem where the same message is showing up in both my inbox and junk mail folder. The full content of the message is visible in the junk mail but the same message appears in the inbox with a message in the preview pane that "the content of this message cannot be found". My Junk E-mail option is set to "Safe List Only" and "Also trust e-mail from my Windows contacts". I have three Windows 7 PC's running Windows Mail and all have the same problem. Anybody else having this issue? Screenshot attached.
A. It might help to clean out your "Local Folders" folder in AppData.

1. Save all emails

2. Show hidden folders by opening any folder --> Task Bar --> Organize --> Layout --> Tick: Menu Bar
--> Task bar --> Tools --> Folder Options --> View --> Dot: Show hidden file, folders and drives --> OK.

3. Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders

4. Delete all folders and files in the "Local Folders" folder, except the Accounts files. That is, delete Inbox, Sent Items, ete. The following is a pic of Local Folders. The alpha numeric code in the accounts shown has been replaced with crosses for security reasons.


Windows Mail-capture.png

Deleting these folders will not remove them from your WinMail file in Program Files. Next time WinMail is run again, a new set of folders will appear in Local Folders.

B. Also read this post here.

C. The other suggestion would be to make sure you have the lastest updates and Service Packs installed. As pointed out in a Microsoft article found here, this was an issue with Vitsta until the latest Service Packs were installed. There is a specific KB update listed in this MS article to deal with this problem.

D. Finally, download, extract and run the attached program: Repair WinMail Database.zip. It is a small program WMUtil.exe which repairs the WinMail data base.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB


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27 May 2010   #526
roncerr

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
It might help to read this post here.
Do you suppose a similar process can be used to fix or reset Windows Live Mail except that the Windows Live Mail folder would be used instead of the Windows Mail folder? (This is for those of us who are giving WLM a second chance.)
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27 May 2010   #527
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by roncerr View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
It might help to read this post here.
Do you suppose a similar process can be used to fix or reset Windows Live Mail except that the Windows Live Mail folder would be used instead of the Windows Mail folder? (This is for those of us who are giving WLM a second chance.)
I'm sorry, but I don't fully understand your question when you say "fix or reset Win Live Mail". Win Live Mail can be downloaded from Microsoft and run at any time. It will auto correct any files needed in Windows Mail folder. I have run both Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail concurrently in 32 & 64bit installations.

Or are you referring to the import of email accounts, folders and emails from Vista to Local Folders in AppData? And whether this import process will work with Win Live Mail?
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27 May 2010   #528
roncerr

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by roncerr View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
It might help to read this post here.
Do you suppose a similar process can be used to fix or reset Windows Live Mail except that the Windows Live Mail folder would be used instead of the Windows Mail folder? (This is for those of us who are giving WLM a second chance.)
I'm sorry, but I don't fully understand your question when you say "fix or reset Win Live Mail".
Sorry, I confused the link you posted above with this one for Windows Mail:
Messages may be stuck in the Outbox when you use Windows Mail on a computer that is running Windows Vista
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28 May 2010   #529
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by roncerr View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by roncerr View Post
Do you suppose a similar process can be used to fix or reset Windows Live Mail except that the Windows Live Mail folder would be used instead of the Windows Mail folder? (This is for those of us who are giving WLM a second chance.)
I'm sorry, but I don't fully understand your question when you say "fix or reset Win Live Mail".
Sorry, I confused the link you posted above with this one for Windows Mail:
Messages may be stuck in the Outbox when you use Windows Mail on a computer that is running Windows Vista
A few months back I was advised by Microsoft that a new version of Win Live Mail would be coming out. To test this new version 2009 build 14.0.817.0416, I have just now downloaded and installed it by simply going to the download site for Windows Live. However, when I installed it I unticked everthing except Mail. It is loaded onto a 64bit version of Windows 7.

When I ran it for the first time, it auto imported all my contacts and settings, and the option to set it as default was offered. I ticked no for default, which supposedly left WinMail as default. In All Programs --> Default programs, both WinMail and WinLiveMail are listed.

I will continue to use it for a period of time to adjust to the different names and placement of various buttons etc.

Thanks for the heads up on the link to the MS Article on "stuck emails". I have referred mick823 in Post No 588 to this link.

Cheers PB
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