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17 Mar 2009
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Windows Mail How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7
Last edited by Brink; 06 May 2013 at 06:50 AM..
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05 Jun 2010
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Windows Live Mail as an alternative Windows Live Mail as an alternative. Without wishing to be a turncoat to the WinMail faithfuls, for those who may want to consider WinLiveMail as as alternative email client, the following information might help. I was asked by Microsoft to review WinLiveMail, and these are the comments I sent to them. There may be other comments members may wish to add to this post. Or the Microsoft representative, Jeff Putt can be contacted at: jeffputt@microsoft.com Or there is a feed-back option to Microsoft specifically for WinLiveMail via this link: here
W inLiveMail is computer based in the sense that it uses the Windows Mail files already in Windows 7. However, you still have to download some files from Windows Live on the net to make it work. The "Windows Live" folder is stored in 32bit Program Files(x86). When I downloaded it, I chose only the "Mail" option, and ignored all the other Live programs. It basically works the same as WinMail, but has new positions for some of the buttons, added features, and a somewhat different view of the main window. You can disable any interactive options and just use it basically as a stand alone program, which is what I've done. I am running it concurrently with Wndows Mail and can choose either as default email client via "Set Default Programs".- The "Send Receive" button has been replaced with a "Sync" button. When this is pressed, it shows the same window for incoming/outgoing mail as Windows Mail.
- Every email account is shown individually in the left pane of the main window, with it's own set of folders for Inbox, Drafts, Sent Items, etc. So if you've got 3 or 4 email addresses you'll have 3 or 4 Accounts in the left panel, each with it's own folders.
- It also has a "Quick View" set of folders at the top of the left panel which shows a summary of all emails. And you can customize the Quick View to show which emails you want to see, such as Junk, Drafts, etc.
- Finally it has a set of "Storage Folders" in the left panel, under the Accounts. The folders include: Drafts, Sent Items, Deleted Items, Inbox, Junk Mail and Outbox.
- It has 45 color options for text, as opposed to 15 in WinMail.
- It has 70 Emoticons you can put into the text.
- The Menu bar is not shown by default, which is typical of all Windows 7 folders. You need to click an icon in the top right of the task bar and tick "Show Menu Bar".
- It has 3 buttons on the left above the main text: "Format'", "Photos" and "Layout". The photos button allows photos to be added. The Format & Layout buttons allow a photo to edited by rotating, changing size, adding a text box, auto correcting the image, changing the type of framing, etc.
- Images are added using: Menu --> Insert --> Image --> Inline. There is no button in the taskbar to insert images as in WinMail.
- In the left panel under the accounts, there are buttons which change the main window display to: Mail, Calendar, Contacts, Feeds and News Groups. As you click each one, the main window is changed, so you see the item mentioned; except for Contacts which are shown as a separate window.
- The format buttons are in a drop down menu rather than individual buttons on the task bar, which is more inconvenient. The drop down menus include bulleting, numbering; formatting alignment such as Left, Right, Justify; as well as Indents & Insert a straight line.
- When a contact in the Contacts folder is highlighted by hovering the mouse over it, it shows the option to send an email by single clicking this option.
- Naturally, the SPAM/Phishing filter works, including updates, and is the same basic lay-out as WinMail.
- When setting up accounts, once the user name, password, and display name is entered it auto fills the POP3 & SMTP protocol; and provides links to set up IMAP for Gmail, etc.
- Junk/SPAM email options are found under taskbar Tools --> Safety Options
- It boots up a lot quicker than WinMail and there is no splash screen to disable.
The main objection is the enforced display of all accounts, which makes the left panel very bulky if you have a lot of accounts. Mostly though, it's just a case of getting used to the new format, and postions of command buttons. I've been testing it for two weeks now, and overall it's quite good, and the extra features helpful. Drop down menus are a pain after individual buttons in the task bar, but it does tidy up the task bar. The main adavantage I guess is having a fully operational application, which won't be borked by updates. Hope this may help those who for whatever reason can't get Windows Mail to work. Cheers PB
Last edited by poppa bear; 06 Jun 2010 at 12:37 PM..
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05 Jun 2010
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Anyone having a new problem is the last few days? My Mom's folders seem to be wiped out and she is getting strange error messages, etc.
bob | My System Specs | | |
06 Jun 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by steelgtr Anyone having a new problem is the last few days? My Mom's folders seem to be wiped out and she is getting strange error messages, etc.
bob It might help to clean out your "Local Folders" folder in AppData as per Part A of the following post found here.
If your mom has downloaded the Microsoft update KB978542 the msoe.dll file in Windows Mail folder will need to be replaced with the new modified mose.dll file from the download link in Step 4 of the tutorial on page one.
If that doesn't fix it, the only other suggestion would be to re-run the tutorial from the top.
Hope this helps. Cheers PB | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-assembled OS Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail CPU Intel i7 960 quad core Motherboard Intel DX58SO2 Extreme Memory 12 GB Kingston DDR 3 1300 Graphics Card PCI Express Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Sound Card Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Graphics/5 Sound card Monitor(s) Displays Samsung WS Syncmaster S23A350H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Intellitype Wireless Multimedia Mouse Microsoft Intellipoint2 Wireless Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced Mid Tower Cooling CPU, top, front and rear extractor fans Hard Drives OS on 128 GB Corsair SSD SATA 3 + Storage on 1 TB Western Digital Black SATA 2 Internet Speed 100 MB/sec Theoretical max. Actual average 0.5MB/sec Other Info Back-up PC with Vista Ultimate OEM 32bit. Intel i5 2400 Quad Core CPU, DH67CL mobo, 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1300 RAM, |
06 Jun 2010
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Thanks, we did do the KB978542 fix a while back..... This just happened yesterday after she said yes to some kind of update yesterday!
bob 
Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear 
Quote: Originally Posted by steelgtr Anyone having a new problem is the last few days? My Mom's folders seem to be wiped out and she is getting strange error messages, etc.
bob It might help to clean out your "Local Folders" folder in AppData as per Part A of the following post found here.
If your mom has downloaded the Microsoft update KB978542 the msoe.dll file in Windows Mail folder will need to be replaced with the new modified mose.dll file from the download link in Step 4 of the tutorial on page one.
If that doesn't fix it, the only other suggestion would be to re-run the tutorial from the top.
Hope this helps. Cheers PB | My System Specs | | |
06 Jun 2010
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#604 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by steelgtr Thanks, we did do the KB978542 fix a while back..... This just happened yesterday after she said yes to some kind of update yesterday!
bob 
Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear 
Quote: Originally Posted by steelgtr Anyone having a new problem is the last few days? My Mom's folders seem to be wiped out and she is getting strange error messages, etc.
bob It might help to clean out your "Local Folders" folder in AppData as per Part A of the following post found here.
If your mom has downloaded the Microsoft update KB978542 the msoe.dll file in Windows Mail folder will need to be replaced with the new modified mose.dll file from the download link in Step 4 of the tutorial on page one.
If that doesn't fix it, the only other suggestion would be to re-run the tutorial from the top.
Hope this helps. Cheers PB Go to your Windows Update history and let us know which updates she installed yesterday. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Averatec 6130HS-20 OS Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600) CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 3.00 GHz HT Memory 2.0 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon 9600 64MB Sound Card Realtek AC'97 Audio Screen Resolution 1280 x 800 Mouse Targus PAWM10 Wireless Optical Laptop Mouse Cooling 20 Inch Box Fan Hard Drives Seagate 96023A 60GB 7200RPM -
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06 Jun 2010
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To steelgtr re: Quote: Thanks, we did do the KB978542 fix a while back..... This just happened yesterday after she said yes to some kind of update yesterday! Just to cover all bases, when you fixed the msoe.dll after the KB update, did you leave the update in or delete it? If you deleted it, and then replaced the existing msoe.dll file with the updated one from the tutorial, next time your mom got updates, it would download KB978542 again and bork the modified msoe.dll. The correct procedure is to leave the update in, then do the msoe.dll update; or remove it and next time it comes up as an available update, make it invisible.
Cheers PB | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-assembled OS Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail CPU Intel i7 960 quad core Motherboard Intel DX58SO2 Extreme Memory 12 GB Kingston DDR 3 1300 Graphics Card PCI Express Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Sound Card Gigabyte GTX 550 Ti Graphics/5 Sound card Monitor(s) Displays Samsung WS Syncmaster S23A350H Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Intellitype Wireless Multimedia Mouse Microsoft Intellipoint2 Wireless Case Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced Mid Tower Cooling CPU, top, front and rear extractor fans Hard Drives OS on 128 GB Corsair SSD SATA 3 + Storage on 1 TB Western Digital Black SATA 2 Internet Speed 100 MB/sec Theoretical max. Actual average 0.5MB/sec Other Info Back-up PC with Vista Ultimate OEM 32bit. Intel i5 2400 Quad Core CPU, DH67CL mobo, 8 GB Kingston DDR3 1300 RAM, |
06 Jun 2010
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Every email account is shown individually in the left pane of the main window, with it's own set of folders for Inbox, Drafts, Sent Items, etc. So if you've got 3 or 4 email addresses you'll have 3 or 4 Accounts in the left panel, each with it's own folders.
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This is the one thing I cannot stand in WindowsLiveMail and why I will never use it. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self build OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU AMD Phenom II x4 Motherboard Gigabyte 880 Memory 8GB Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce HD Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 PSU Thermalake 550w Case XCase Hard Drives 2 x 1TB Internet Speed 8MB |
06 Jun 2010
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Method ok Thanks a lot, Poppa.
I have done the windows update except with the KB 978542 (I unticked this one at the list of Windows updates) and is working fine.
Btw, what should I do if the KB 978542 appears again in the windows update list?
thxs, jms
Last edited by jms; 06 Jun 2010 at 09:41 AM..
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06 Jun 2010
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#608 | | |

Quote: Originally Posted by jms Thanks a lot, Poppa.
I have done the windows update except with the KB 978542 (I unticked this one at the list of Windows updates) and is working fine.
Btw, what should I do if the KB 978542 appears again in the windows update list?
thxs, jms It will probably appear again. When it does, untick it, right click and click "hide" in the menu options. It will then be grayed out and should not show up again.
Or you can donwnload it, then replace the msoe.dll after downloading, and it will not show up again as it's already installed. And it won't bork WinMail as you've loaded the msoe.dll after you got the update. This is the method I used.
Cheers PB
Last edited by poppa bear; 06 Jun 2010 at 10:29 AM..
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06 Jun 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear To steelgtr re: Quote: Thanks, we did do the KB978542 fix a while back..... This just happened yesterday after she said yes to some kind of update yesterday! Just to cover all bases, when you fixed the msoe.dll after the KB update, did you leave the update in or delete it? If you deleted it, and then replaced the existing msoe.dll file with the updated one from the tutorial, next time your mom got updates, it would download KB978542 again and bork the modified msoe.dll. The correct procedure is to leave the update in, then do the msoe.dll update; or remove it and next time it comes up as an available update, make it invisible.
Cheers PB PB,
I didn't do anything to the update, forgot about turning off auto updates!
I'll be up there in a day or so and will disable that update
thx
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