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06 Jul 2010   #710
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by myzr7 View Post
I have a version of Win Live Mail beta running on a test machine and it does have the same avatar as my live messager has. It will be interesting to see if it can be changed to have two differnt ones on the same account.
So we do need the Live Messenger for the User Pic to work?


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06 Jul 2010   #711
myzr7

Windows 7 Ulti. x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by myzr7 View Post
I have a version of Win Live Mail beta running on a test machine and it does have the same avatar as my live messager has. It will be interesting to see if it can be changed to have two differnt ones on the same account.
So we do need the Live Messenger for the User Pic to work?
I think so as I have changed the one in messenger and it changed in the mailroom after closing out and reopening mail
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06 Jul 2010   #712
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by myzr7 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by myzr7 View Post
I have a version of Win Live Mail beta running on a test machine and it does have the same avatar as my live messager has. It will be interesting to see if it can be changed to have two differnt ones on the same account.
So we do need the Live Messenger for the User Pic to work?
I think so as I have changed the one in messenger and it changed in the mailroom after closing out and reopening mail
Yes, I couldn't resist. I installed messenger to see for myself. I wonder if there's a way to hack that little icon without installing live messenger?
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06 Jul 2010   #713
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
I commend you for finding the source of my head banging but the stored email in Local Folders or Storage Folders in AppData are indeed .eml files and can be read easily with a text editor.
Yes, all message files on HD storage, (AppData), are .eml type files. However:
  • Emails copied/moved to HD storage in WinLiveMail from HD storage in WinMail
  • Or emails saved to desktop from WinMail.exe interface, then moved to HD storage in WLM
....are not read the same way as those created in WinLiveMail. Which explains why they are displayed in the < craparrows.com > format when viewing such 'alien' emails in the interface of WinLiveMail.exe.

Obviously there is some form of identifier in the emails created in WinLiveMail which allows it to recognize them as it's own emails. I imagine it's the number displayed in the storage file version of the email. Therefore the ID No of WinMail emails placed in HD storage folders of WLM will not be recognized and hence not displayed in the normal way.

When exporting emails from HD storage folders of WinMail in Vista to HD storage folders of WinMail in Windows 7, the ID numbers will be recognized as an email created in WinMail. Which explains why the method works that is shown in my post here. However, even when using this method, the destination Local Folders, (AppData), has to be emptied of all sub-folders, otherwise your custom created folders from WinMail will not be migrated across.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
I find that this does not work for me. It's the same duplication factor with arrows routine. Unless, you are saying to hight light/select all emails within the client, then right click and save. If so, I did not try that.
In both WinMail.exe & WinLiveMail.exe open interface, I am able to save emails to the desktop by:

1. Highlighting a group of emails, or a single one, and drag/dropping them to the desktop, or a storage folder on the desktop, from the Inbox, Sent Items, etc.

2. Or as you said, hight light/select all emails within the client, then right click and save.

Once I have saved them to desktop, they can then be drag/dropped into the appropriate folders of Inbox, Drafts, etc, in the open interface of WinLiveMail.exe.

This is the long way of doing it, but it is 100% safe. Back in days of XP, being a bit of a slow learner and not into forums, when I reloaded XP for someone I would individually open and save each email... a monster task when there were several hundred. Then I discovered drag/drop and thought I had found gold. And finally through forums such as this, I finally found export/import wizard which was "premium" gold, not "leaded"... LOL!

I prefer method 1, because it's a tad quicker than having to use a drop down menu and then select a destination to which you want to save them. However, I've noticed a spasmodic glitch with WinLiveMail Beta when doing this. Sometimes the email that is drag/dropped is corrupted, and can't be read.
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07 Jul 2010   #714
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post

Once I have saved them to desktop, they can then be drag/dropped into the appropriate folders of Inbox, Drafts, etc, in the open interface of WinLiveMail.exe.

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This answers the Unless of my last reply. Did not know about the drag n drop method within the GUI of WLM. I must have missed that one,lol. <--- Missing something in this topic would be easy to do. I think we've pretty much dissected every possible avenue of WM and WLM which is a good thing.

I'm still looking for a way to hack that profile icon to show something different. I don't use Windows Live Messenger all though, when testing it out last night, I did truly like the new email alert I got. Pretty sharp!
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08 Jul 2010   #715
poppa bear

Win7 Ultimate 64bit Retail
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
This answers the Unless of my last reply. Did not know about the drag n drop method within the GUI of WLM. I must have missed that one,lol. <--- Missing something in this topic would be easy to do. I think we've pretty much dissected every possible avenue of WM and WLM which is a good thing.
Yep, I think we've pretty well covered it every which way. And yes, I agree, it's been good to know exactly what's going on.

As a last little test, I moved an email file from HD storage of WLM --> HD storage of WM; and hey presto, it worked, no glitches. Did it in reverse from WM --> WLM and got <craparrow.com>. Go figure, eh!

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
I'm still looking for a way to hack that profile icon to show something different. I don't use Windows Live Messenger all though, when testing it out last night, I did truly like the new email alert I got. Pretty sharp!
Hell Greg it wouldn't have seemed right if there wasn't something for El Maestro Hacker, (meaning you!), to hack in WLM! LOL! Man you cracked me up with: "You know, the one that looks like Gort from the 1951 SciFi movie The Day the Earth Stood Still". Man that is so funny, I'm still rockin!

I think this tutorial has just about run it's race. It's pretty much become a WinLiveMail forum now. Although, it's been a good learning curve for me, and helped ease me into WLM by forcing me to address a lot of issues I normally wouldn't have bothered with. Hell don't know what I'll do now to while away the long winter nights! Double LOL!

BTW I've gone back to earlier version of WLM until they get back some of the lost commands in WLM Beta, such as format background and select all for a group of emails.

Off topic: Been helping a friend with XP Home on core 2 duo mobo. Any thoughts on what to do when Windows can download but can't install critical security updates? And ditto for Adobe updates, and won't allow this program to be uninstalled?

Cheers PB
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08 Jul 2010   #716
Greg S

Windows 7 Professional 32-bit (6.1, Build 7600)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Greg S View Post
I'm still looking for a way to hack that profile icon to show something different. I don't use Windows Live Messenger all though, when testing it out last night, I did truly like the new email alert I got. Pretty sharp!
Hell Greg it wouldn't have seemed right if there wasn't something for El Maestro Hacker, (meaning you!), to hack in WLM! LOL! Man you cracked me up with: "You know, the one that looks like Gort from the 1951 SciFi movie The Day the Earth Stood Still". Man that is so funny, I'm still rockin!
You can bet your last dollar I'm still lookin!
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
I think this tutorial has just about run it's race. It's pretty much become a WinLiveMail forum now. Although, it's been a good learning curve for me, and helped ease me into WLM by forcing me to address a lot of issues I normally wouldn't have bothered with.
Yes it has and I'm surprised it hasn't been split or got us Banned for doing this. I am glad that Brink and the mods have let it go on because it's been a big help for me.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by poppa bear View Post
Off topic: Been helping a friend with XP Home on core 2 duo mobo. Any thoughts on what to do when Windows can download but can't install critical security updates? And ditto for Adobe updates, and won't allow this program to be uninstalled?

Cheers PB
Sounds to me like the XP user is running as a Limited User. Check the status of his account. If there is an Admin account, try intalling from there. If there is an Admin User account which requires a password, select the file you want to run, right click Run as Administrator and enter the password. If the XP version is Professional, right click the file and select properties and look at the bottom for Unblock.

This is just a few things that come to mind from the symptoms that you described.
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10 Jul 2010   #717
BladeRy

Xp + Win7
 
 

Hi

I have a strange...and frustrating problem with my WinMail.
I am following few newsgroups, so when i added them in WinMail they are sorted by alphabet. When i try "sync now" to get my mail and news, the groups are shuffled.
Old OutlookExpress did it normally, by order. 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 <-
WindowsMail does it in..dunno what order, 5,3,6,1,8,2,9,7,4

I tried adding my groups by alphabet, didn't help. I tried the reverse order, still no luck.

Is there any way to fix this?

Tnx
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10 Jul 2010   #718
roncerr

Windows 8 Pro w/MC 32-bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BladeRy View Post
I tried adding my groups by alphabet, didn't help. I tried the reverse order, still no luck.
Windows Mail (part of Vista) does sort alphabetically in Vista. Are you using Windows Mail in Win 7 as per the tutorial at the top of this page or Windows Live Mail in Win 7?
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10 Jul 2010   #719
BladeRy

Xp + Win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by roncerr View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by BladeRy View Post
I tried adding my groups by alphabet, didn't help. I tried the reverse order, still no luck.
Windows Mail (part of Vista) does sort alphabetically in Vista. Are you using Windows Mail in Win 7 as per the tutorial at the top of this page or Windows Live Mail in Win 7?
I am using Windows Mail. Used tutorial to make it work, and aside newsgroups shuffle..everything works.
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