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11-17-2008
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#49 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Virtual Hard Disk - Create and Attach VHD How to Create and Attach a Virtual Hard Disk in Windows 7
Last edited by Brink; 2 Days Ago at 12:53 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self built custom OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel i7-980X 3.3 Ghz (3.48 Ghz OC'd) Motherboard ASUS P6X58D Premium Memory 12 GB (2GBx6) DDR3 PC3-16000 2000 MHz Kingston HyperX Graphics Card Sapphire HD5870 Eyefinity 6 2GB Sound Card Realtek HD Audio ALC889 Integrated Chip Monitor(s) Displays 3x 27" Asus VE278Q Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution Mouse Logitech Cordless Desktop MX 5500 Revolution PSU OCZ Series Gold OCZZ1000M 1000W Case Corsair Obsidian 800D Cooling Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme Copper CPU heat sink w/120 MM Hard Drives 160GB OCZ RevoDrive X2
** 2 x 1TB Samsung HDD HD154UI SATA Internet Speed 50 Mb/s Download and 2 Mb/s Upload Other Info Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
** Lite-On iHBS212 12x BD Writer
** Samsung CLX-3175FW Printer
** Netgear WNDR3800 Router
** Motorola SBG6580 Cable Modem
** 2x APC Back-UPS XS 1500 |
02-15-2010
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This is exactly what I wanted to do and tried it about six months ago but to no avail. I sought help in this forum but no response was posted. If you see anything wrong about how I did it, then I will try again. Quote: I have not tried this with a image backup, but this will allow you to boot from an existing VHD if the VHD is bootable. Boot from a VHD using Windows 7 Does "if the VHD is bootable" mean if the image was created correctly and there is no subsequent damage done to it? | My System Specs | | OS W7 Ult x64 CPU Phenom II x4 970 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 G.Skill F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL x2 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD5770 Sound Card Asus Xonar DS Monitor(s) Displays 24' x2, Gateway FPD2485W, Dell UltraSharp U2410 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 PSU Corsair VX450W 450W Case Cooler Master STORM Scout Model: SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Hard Drives Hitachi 1TB/7200rpm HDE721010SLA330
Hitachi 1TB/7200rpm HDS721010CLA332 Internet Speed 20Mbps/4Mbps Other Info 2nd machine: Vista x64/W7 x64, MSI K8T Neo, Athlon 3200+, 2GB, Radeon X850Pro |
02-15-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by churin Brink,
I followed the steps to the end for Create and Start with at Boot.
what I did appears to be creating VHD drive and clean installing Windows 7 from its installer DVD. It is working fine.
Is there a tutorials for creating a VHD drive and installing from a VHD file which is a backup image of installed Windows 7 including application softwares? You can mount a system image vhd as a second hard drive to an existing virtual machine, as told here.
Because of the difference in hardware setup, I do not believe it could be used as a boot disk, though I have to admit I've never tried because it just sounds so impossible
Kari | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
02-15-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kari 
Quote: Originally Posted by churin Is there a tutorials for creating a VHD drive and installing from a VHD file which is a backup image of installed Windows 7 including application softwares? You can mount a system image vhd as a second hard drive to an existing virtual machine, as told here.
Because of the difference in hardware setup, I do not believe it could be used as a boot disk, though I have to admit I've never tried because it just sounds so impossible  What "difference in hardware setup" do you mean? I want to restore an image onto a VHD drive in the hardware system on which the image is created. Another word there will be two identical installed Windows 7 system on the machine if it is done successfully. | My System Specs | | OS W7 Ult x64 CPU Phenom II x4 970 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 G.Skill F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL x2 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD5770 Sound Card Asus Xonar DS Monitor(s) Displays 24' x2, Gateway FPD2485W, Dell UltraSharp U2410 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 PSU Corsair VX450W 450W Case Cooler Master STORM Scout Model: SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Hard Drives Hitachi 1TB/7200rpm HDE721010SLA330
Hitachi 1TB/7200rpm HDS721010CLA332 Internet Speed 20Mbps/4Mbps Other Info 2nd machine: Vista x64/W7 x64, MSI K8T Neo, Athlon 3200+, 2GB, Radeon X850Pro |
02-15-2010
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Even if it runs on your host computer, a virtual machine doesn't use its hardware. The virtual machine hardware is emulated. If you follow instructions in this tutorial and boot your virtual machine to BIOS setup screen, you will notice it is completely different than your host.
You can see this also in Device Manager. Open Device Manager in your host and then in your virtual machine, and compare the hardware setups. You'll notice how different they are.
Kari | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
02-15-2010
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Kari,
I looked at the link. It appears to be about Windows Virtual PC which is a software but I am not using the software. | My System Specs | | OS W7 Ult x64 CPU Phenom II x4 970 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 G.Skill F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL x2 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD5770 Sound Card Asus Xonar DS Monitor(s) Displays 24' x2, Gateway FPD2485W, Dell UltraSharp U2410 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 PSU Corsair VX450W 450W Case Cooler Master STORM Scout Model: SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Hard Drives Hitachi 1TB/7200rpm HDE721010SLA330
Hitachi 1TB/7200rpm HDS721010CLA332 Internet Speed 20Mbps/4Mbps Other Info 2nd machine: Vista x64/W7 x64, MSI K8T Neo, Athlon 3200+, 2GB, Radeon X850Pro |
03-09-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kari Even if it runs on your host computer, a virtual machine doesn't use its hardware. The virtual machine hardware is emulated. If you follow instructions in this tutorial and boot your virtual machine to BIOS setup screen, you will notice it is completely different than your host.
You can see this also in Device Manager. Open Device Manager in your host and then in your virtual machine, and compare the hardware setups. You'll notice how different they are.
Kari So then are you saying that if you have hardware compatiblity issues with Win 7, a VM running XP will most likely NOT solve the incompatibility?
I've got an old Nikon SCSI film scanner whose software needs the SCSI ASPI layer. Unfortunately, Adaptec pulled the plug on ASPI support beyond XP. I'm trying to decide if I should set up a dual boot system or try the VM. | My System Specs | | OS Win 7 64-bit/32-bit/XP |
03-09-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan05 So then are you saying that if you have hardware compatiblity issues with Win 7, a VM running XP will most likely NOT solve the incompatibility? Quite the contrary. For instance let's say you occasionally need some old 16-bit application which would never run on your modern Win7x64 rig. It's quite possible you can still run it on VM.
My wife likes Outlook Express which is a PITA to install on 7x64. She uses it on XP Mode without a problem. A friend of mine can only use his old Canon printer through XP Mode, and so on. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Ivan05 I've got an old Nikon SCSI film scanner whose software needs the SCSI ASPI layer. Unfortunately, Adaptec pulled the plug on ASPI support beyond XP. I'm trying to decide if I should set up a dual boot system or try the VM. I have no experience in installing SCSI devices on XP Mode, but I would recommend to you to try it before setting up a dual boot system. If it works, you don't have to leave your 7 session just to use that application.
You can always setup dual boot if this fails; the only think you lose trying XP Mode first is about 20 minutes of your time.
Kari | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
03-09-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kari I have no experience in installing SCSI devices on XP Mode, but I would recommend to you to try it before setting up a dual boot system. If it works, you don't have to leave your 7 session just to use that application.
You can always setup dual boot if this fails; the only think you lose trying XP Mode first is about 20 minutes of your time.Kari Yes, it may be about 20 minutes IF Ivan05 knows his machine(CPU) supports XP Mode. If not some more time is needed. Unlike AMD cpu a lot of Intel cpus do not support XP mode. | My System Specs | | OS W7 Ult x64 CPU Phenom II x4 970 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory 16GB DDR3 1333 G.Skill F3-10666CL9D-8GBXL x2 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD5770 Sound Card Asus Xonar DS Monitor(s) Displays 24' x2, Gateway FPD2485W, Dell UltraSharp U2410 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 PSU Corsair VX450W 450W Case Cooler Master STORM Scout Model: SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Hard Drives Hitachi 1TB/7200rpm HDE721010SLA330
Hitachi 1TB/7200rpm HDS721010CLA332 Internet Speed 20Mbps/4Mbps Other Info 2nd machine: Vista x64/W7 x64, MSI K8T Neo, Athlon 3200+, 2GB, Radeon X850Pro |
03-09-2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by churin 
Quote: Originally Posted by Kari I have no experience in installing SCSI devices on XP Mode, but I would recommend to you to try it before setting up a dual boot system. If it works, you don't have to leave your 7 session just to use that application.
You can always setup dual boot if this fails; the only think you lose trying XP Mode first is about 20 minutes of your time.Kari Yes, it may be about 20 minutes IF Ivan05 knows his machine(CPU) supports XP Mode. If not some more time is needed. Unlike AMD cpu a lot of Intel cpus do not support XP mode. That's very true. Good catch. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
03-09-2010
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Thanks Kari and churin for the additional information. How do you know if it will support XP mode? Parts just arrived for my new build and now I'm even more confused. My old system is on it's last leg and I'm upgrading to a Core i7-860 and assumed it would handle the task with no issues.
Back to the VM question, the VM won't need to be "reinstalled" every time I want to use my scanner, will it? I'm assuming that I'd set up the VHD & VM once, then whenever I needed it invoke it from Win 7 as you mentioned, Kari. From reading through the tutorials here, about the only thing I may have to do is reattach the VM when I wanted to use it (if there was a reboot involved), right? Does this VHD need to be bootable?
I plan on doing a fresh install of Win 7 on my primary boot drive. Should I go ahead and partition out the drive before I install Win 7, leaving room for the VHD? Would I need to create the VHD prior to the Win 7 install?
Sorry for all the questions. I have to admit, I've been using, building and playing with computers since 1980/81, but I'm a noob at this and have no idea what to do. This place, as well as vistaforums, is a treasure trove of information, but there's so much of it it's almost overwhelming and to assimilate it all is a daunting task.
Thanks for any and all help. | My System Specs | | OS Win 7 64-bit/32-bit/XP Virtual Hard Disk - Create and Attach VHD problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:54 AM. |  |