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Windows 7: Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup

24 Apr 2015   #660
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
Method 1 will save multiple backups. It will use up to one third of the partition (drive) size to do this. You have no control over this. Older images will be deleted when there is no more room for a new one. The images are incremental. It's a long time since I have restored one of these images but if I remember correctly RPs are not backed up.
So if my image was containing DATA files then I could have easily exceeded the 1/3 criterion; hence, the OVERWRITE?

+ I think you confirmed what my previous experience was with the RESTORE PTS.

THANX


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24 Apr 2015   #661
kado897

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

It is always a good idea to separate backup of data from Windows and programs wherever possible. This gives you better control over your backups. You would probably want to backup your data more often than you image and your images will be much smaller if your data is on a different partition. You can easily use libraries to gather together data that is on separate partitions or drives.
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06 May 2015   #662
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 
System Vol Info contained within the VHD file

I think this topic is relevant to this tutorial. If not, I can create a separate thread if informed to do so.

I have 2 image files of the same machine & apparently at the same time because they are both identiufied as "Backup 2015-03-07 082043". The 2 images exist on 2 different hard drives. I was going to delete 1 of the images, but upon examining the VHD files I noted they had different sizes. That puzzled me so I investigated further & it appears the discrepancy resides in the Sys Vol Info directory. Why would that be?

I can say on 1 of the 2 drives is that I have a more recent image within the WindowsImageBackup that is the same machine, but I repartitioned the internal drives. However, creating the newer image should not have changed a VHD file that already exists for a previous image?

Aside from the Sys Vol Info differing if all else is = are these images intact? Also, how can the previous VHD file get changed? I did use DISK MGR to examine the contents.

If I am correct the Sys Vol Info pertains to Sys Restore Pts which do not get preserved when recovering an image anyway. This is an extension with my previous comments with KADO.

Thanks
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06 May 2015   #663
ignatzatsonic

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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
 
 

I don't know much about Windows Backup, but I've created 2 images of the same C drive recently--one on April 27 and one about 20 minutes ago. I've never restored a Windows Backup image.

I used this command, from a prompt:

wbadmin start backup -backupTarget:E: -include:C: -AllCritical -quiet

The images were written to the E drive.

Here are some facts about those 2 images that may help you make some inferences.

Before I made the second image, the WindowsImageBackup folder contained a folder named Backup 2015-04-27 234425. That folder has been renamed 2015-05-06 070051. It shows a creation date of April 27, but curiously does not have a modified date of today.

The VHD file has also been renamed and is 700 mb larger than on April 27. I have only one VHD file.

The Backupspecs.xml file appears to have been overwritten with new data. It still has a creation date of April 27, modified today.

The other 10 xml files in the 2015-05-06 070051 folder appear to be brand new, not modifications of earlier files. None of them has a creation date of April 27.

I'm guessing I no longer have any way to restore to April 27.
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06 May 2015   #664
kado897

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ignatzatsonic View Post
I'm guessing I no longer have any way to restore to April 27.
I'm not sure about that as I think the "incrementals" are held in shadow storage. I think the only ones who really know how Windows backup works are Microsoft and I'm not even sure of that.
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06 May 2015   #665
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

I'm not sure about that as I think the "incrementals" are held in shadow storage. I think the only ones who really know how Windows backup works are Microsoft and I'm not even sure of that.[/QUOTE]

I guarantee if I post this to answers.microsoft.com I will get the formed letter response from an overseas responder (English as their 2nd language) with direct links to MICROSOFT literature which yields no answers to the situation.
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06 May 2015   #666
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by kado897 View Post
I'm not sure about that as I think the "incrementals" are held in shadow storage. I think the only ones who really know how Windows backup works are Microsoft and I'm not even sure of that.
I guarantee if I post this to answers.microsoft.com I will get the formed letter response from an overseas responder (English as their 2nd language) with direct links to MICROSOFT literature which yields no answers to the situation.
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06 May 2015   #667
kado897

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by betaupsilon View Post
Quote:
I'm not sure about that as I think the "incrementals" are held in shadow storage. I think the only ones who really know how Windows backup works are Microsoft and I'm not even sure of that.
I guarantee if I post this to answers.microsoft.com I will get the formed letter response from an overseas responder (English as their 2nd language) with direct links to MICROSOFT literature which yields no answers to the situation.
Yep.
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11 May 2015   #668
betaupsilon

Windows 7 Home Prem 32 bit
 
 
Confusion on Volume Shadow Copy service

Does the Vol Shdw Copy service have anything to do with creating a system image per this tutorial? If it does will it generate a failure message if the service is off?

The reason I ask is that I got an error message 0x80042302 when I attempted to recover (NOT restore) an image of a laptop. When the image was created I am pretty sure the dialog box indicated that the system image was created successfully. If I had gotten the error at the time of the image creation I could have taken corrective action. Getting this error message when trying to recover the image is completely useless.

If this service does need to be enabled should this tutorial mention that up front?
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11 May 2015   #669
Brink

64-bit Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Hello betaupsilon,

That is correct. The Vol Shdw service needs to be enabled and running to create a system image.
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