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Windows 7: System Image Recovery


23 Nov 2008   #99
Brink
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 
System Image Recovery

How to Do a System Image Recovery in Windows 7


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22 May 2010   #100
Brink
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by blotsome View Post
Renaming by itself did not work. But I then tried it moving it back to the original location, and it was able to see that system image and I recovered fine.

In the future, if I want to create a system image, if I choose say K:, will it overwrite my old system image? I'm creating the system images manually, should I just set up Windows Backup instead? I didn't want to do that because I didn't want any system resources going to something like that, and I wanted full control over when I make backups and such (I like having a very minimal system). Probably those concerns aren't warranted, but I'm worried about a program always running in the background, or system back up running at a bad time for me or something like that, you know?
If you move the WindowsImageBackup folder to another location, then be sure to also move the MediaID.bin file with it. That file is what helps Windows 7 locate the folder.


System images are saved incrementally when save to a location where another system image has been saved at. If you would like to keep them separate, then you could create a new folder on K, then move the older WindowsImageBackup folder and it's MediaID.bin file into the new folder. Afterwards, you can create a new system image on K without affecting the older one.

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25 May 2010   #101
SeptimusFry

Windows 7/64pro(SSD)
 
 
RAID 1 or MIRROR drives, restoring

What a great thread.

I have set my 2 Velociraptor discs as one RAID 1 drive in Windows 7 software raid-ing. The system quite properly sees each of them as a C drive.

I have done a System Image backup of them/it, and to my surprise it went down quite straighforwardly.

I have considered taking an old machine, building it with two old identical drives that I have as a Windows 7 machine (activation might be a problem... but I think I get 30 days or something??). Anyway, I was thinking of doing an experiment like that, as I have no information to suggest that Windows 7 would restore properly.

So, do you know if anyone has successfully done this ? - it is a small world, so I am sure someone must at least have tried !!

I await the crystal ball results...

SF
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25 May 2010   #102
Brink
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

Hello SF, and welcome to Seven Forums.

As long as the system image is recognized, then you should have no problems restoring it on the other computer. You will have a issue with restoring the image on another computer since the system image was created from a different computer with different motherboard chipset drivers and such.

Hope this helps,
Shawn
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26 May 2010   #103
SeptimusFry

Windows 7/64pro(SSD)
 
 

I put my question very badly.

I was referring to creating a RAID 1-based system on another computer to test the principle, not the actuality.

That is to say that I am backing up my 'real' system, but have been too wary of trying to restore it, as I cannot afford the time involved if the restore doesn't work, but does screw up the system. I have put the question on other forums, and nobody has responded that they have backed up and restored a system image where all discs are mirrored. That is the real question I am putting.

My favourite utility Acronis, cannot do this in its current version ATIH2010 . I had to buy it and go through a number of hoops before finding that Raid 1 and 5 are not supported. That is why I am so doubtful for what is, after all, a free utility in Windows 7.

As I say, I rather confused it originally. I hope you can see where I am coming from now.
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26 May 2010   #104
Brink
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

SF,

I have not tried to do a system image recovery to a RAID setup before. I would think that as long as you had the RAID drives setup in BIOS the same way as they were on the image, and had the RAID drivers on a USB stick as a backup incase they needed to be loaded for Windows to recognize the RAID drivers, then you should be able to.

If not, then you will still be able to manually extract any needed files from the system image as well.
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28 May 2010   #105
SeptimusFry

Windows 7/64pro(SSD)
 
 
RAID 1 or MIRROR drives, restoring

OK, Thanks for the info.

As it is my System Drive I am wanting to restore, getting individual files will only be of help if I am an expert and using an emergency repair disc... I want to have the same turnkey performance I am used to with my Acronis 11 on non-Raided XP computers.

So, I am going to build a new Windows 7 installation on my old XP platform (after taking an Acronis 11 backup, of course) and make it RAID 1 to see what backup and restore does. You can be sure I will come back and let you know.

Anyone following this thread that HAS done this, please cough up, or send me a PM !! For more general information on RAID on Windows 7, please note that only PRO and upward will allow RAID-ing of drives.
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28 May 2010   #106
SeptimusFry

Windows 7/64pro(SSD)
 
 
RAID 1 SYSTEM DISK NOT A GOOD IDEA AT ALL WINDOWS 7

Withdrawn this posting. I am not at all sure I did not make a mistake by confusing RAID leads in my box!! I am repeating these tests on my old P4 platform.
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28 May 2010   #107
Brink
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 8.1 Enterprise
 
 

SF,

For the best performance and backup security, I would recommend to run a RAID 0 for you Windows 7 installation, then create a system image backup on another HDD than the RAID 0. This way your covered for speed and for RAID drive failure.
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28 May 2010   #108
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Did you try running startup repair on DiskM ( after removing DiskS ) ?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SeptimusFry View Post
OK. I have done some experiments and am a bit unhappy.

I am going to use the names DISK-S and DISK-M for the two disks which make up the mirror set, the C: or system drive. DISK-S is the original system disk, and I added DISK-M to create the mirror set.
  • I can backup the C drive fine (actually is is a backup of DISK-S).
  • I cannot restore the C drive as a mirror set directly, I had to remove DISK-M from the mirror and then restore. Then recreate the mirror set. No sweat, but...
  • I removed the DISK-S physical disk and found that I cannot boot off DISK-M, I found that in the Windows 7 small print, it says so, so there it is. The mirror is therefore not boot security for failure of the original boot disk. It is only a data source.
I have now removed DISK-M from the mirror set, and left DISK-S on its own, and I can do backup and restores, using the native Windows 7 or Acronis.

My own conclusion: Creating a mirror set for the boot drive is pointless. It yeilds little or no security.

As mirror gives no resistance to messing up your system disk in the first place [mistake, virus, instal something mucky] it can only be useful as a real-time hardware backup. But if you cannot actually boot from both drives, you are stuffed.

I have Googled around, following many threads, and found no reference to anyone actually being able to make the mirror bootable.

I am quite happy to leave my two big 1.5TB disks as a mirror set, as I only want hardware protection, if one fails, no major problems - it is just data, I don't have to boot off them.

This draws a line under this topic for me, hope my findings are of help to some other poor soul.

SF

PS. I built a new Windows 7 system on my old P4 computer to try all this, and then duplicated on my new i7.


i7 x980 3.3Ghz, 12GB, Velociraptor 300, Nvidia GeForce GTX 285, NEC Reference 2690, WD Studio Ed II 2TB
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29 May 2010   #109
SeptimusFry

Windows 7/64pro(SSD)
 
 

Shawn,

I think you are right. Assuming all goes well with my P4 experiments, the two VelociRaptors in RAID 0 should be pretty nippy !

SF.
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