Windows 7 and Vista have the ability to detect the devices on a network and build a network map based on what it finds. Windows 7 and Vista do this using a protocol called LLTD (Link Layer Topology Discovery). The LLTD Responder is built in to both Windows 7 and Vista. It's also being included in Access Points, Wireless Routers and some NAS devices that display the "Windows 7" Logo.
Among other things LLTD does is detect laptops and desktops that are connected via wireless and builds the network map accordingly. However, any wireless connections will show up only if there's something connected.
However, XP doesn't support the LLTD Responder natively and thus, when the network map is displayed, any PC's running XP (any flavor) will show up on the bottom of the page in their own area, unable to be placed on the map.
Microsoft has a hotfix that will add LLTD Responder support to XP. It does require a Genuine copy of XP and may also require providing your email address to get access to the hotfix. The hotfix only works with SP3 so make sure your system has it installed.
IMPORTANT: This hotfix needs to be installed on every PC running XP on the network.
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050
Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB Internet Speed 3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
I do not have SP 3 on my Windows Xp.. from another tech website.. it was advised it was causing tons of issues.. so they suggested if all is running smoothly.. NOT install the Sp 3.. so I have not.
My Windows Xp is Windows Genuine Advantage Validation.. a long time ago by Microsoft Updates.. I've not ever had to be concerned about this . Thanks for helping.
Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway 17.3" LCD Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Windows 8 Laptop OS Windows 8 - 64-bit CPU 2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor with 2MB L3 ca Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated system memory Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" Ultrabright HD widescreen LED-backlit LCD Screen Resolution 1280 X 1024
Keyboard Multi Gesture Touchpad Mouse USB - portable mouse... I added this PSU Intel B960 processor Case XXXXX Cooling XXXXX Hard Drives 1TB hard drive-1000 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL drive Antivirus Avast Browser I E 10 Other Info I see nothing about Motherboard info.
I'm not sure about Sound Card
Ports :(3) USB 2.0, (1) HDMI, (1) VGA, (1) Headphone out, (1) Microphone in, (1) Ethernet LAN
•Fast Wi-Fi wireless and wired Gigabit Ethernet networking
•HDMI output
•Kensington lock slot
I have no idea what all this actually means
LPt, that is OK, you can still get the group to work without LLTD. The map on your Windows 7 computer will just not look right. The group will still work.
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050
Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB Internet Speed 3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
Carl thank you .. for replying to my confusing situation.. I know somehow this router will work out okay. If not.. I'll go buy a new router.. and start all over.
Last edited by LADYPINKtomato1; 02 Apr 2010 at 01:37 AM..
Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway 17.3" LCD Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Windows 8 Laptop OS Windows 8 - 64-bit CPU 2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor with 2MB L3 ca Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated system memory Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" Ultrabright HD widescreen LED-backlit LCD Screen Resolution 1280 X 1024
Keyboard Multi Gesture Touchpad Mouse USB - portable mouse... I added this PSU Intel B960 processor Case XXXXX Cooling XXXXX Hard Drives 1TB hard drive-1000 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL drive Antivirus Avast Browser I E 10 Other Info I see nothing about Motherboard info.
I'm not sure about Sound Card
Ports :(3) USB 2.0, (1) HDMI, (1) VGA, (1) Headphone out, (1) Microphone in, (1) Ethernet LAN
•Fast Wi-Fi wireless and wired Gigabit Ethernet networking
•HDMI output
•Kensington lock slot
I have no idea what all this actually means
Carl I've just completed downloading and installing Windows XP... Sp 3..and the LLTD hotfix.. when I was installing the LLTD.. this screen appeared with this message. It's quite late here.. I'm off to bed.. nite
Last edited by LADYPINKtomato1; 08 May 2010 at 05:21 PM..
Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway 17.3" LCD Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Windows 8 Laptop OS Windows 8 - 64-bit CPU 2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor with 2MB L3 ca Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated system memory Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" Ultrabright HD widescreen LED-backlit LCD Screen Resolution 1280 X 1024
Keyboard Multi Gesture Touchpad Mouse USB - portable mouse... I added this PSU Intel B960 processor Case XXXXX Cooling XXXXX Hard Drives 1TB hard drive-1000 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL drive Antivirus Avast Browser I E 10 Other Info I see nothing about Motherboard info.
I'm not sure about Sound Card
Ports :(3) USB 2.0, (1) HDMI, (1) VGA, (1) Headphone out, (1) Microphone in, (1) Ethernet LAN
•Fast Wi-Fi wireless and wired Gigabit Ethernet networking
•HDMI output
•Kensington lock slot
I have no idea what all this actually means
The hotfix is included in SP3 - also it should be possible to just install the hotfix on systems running SP2 only - This was always the case but of course with the changes in SP2 support this year this may have been changed.
Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz
Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
Also run Acer AspireOne 530h Netbook, Dual Core Atom + 1GB (Win7 Ult x86) Plus various test systems for new projects
System Manufacturer/Model Number Home built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit CPU Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz Motherboard ASUS P4P800-VM Motherboard Chipset: Intel 865G + ICH5 Memory 2.50 GB RAM Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 7600 GS Sound Card SoundMax Integrated Digital Audio (Chip) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VX 1962 wm Screen Resolution 1680 X 1050
Keyboard Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 2000 v10 USB Mouse Logitec optic USB Cooling Fan based Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 80 GB
ST380215A ATA Device 18.6 GB
Western Digital "My Book" external hard drive 750 GB Internet Speed 3.01 Mb/s download 0.64 Mb/s upload
The hotfix is included in SP3 - also it should be possible to just install the hotfix on systems running SP2 only - This was always the case but of course with the changes in SP2 support this year this may have been changed.
Barman thanks bunches.. at least I have one thing going for me right now... on this mess.. as soon as I can see about a few things I'll be back here.
Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway 17.3" LCD Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Windows 8 Laptop OS Windows 8 - 64-bit CPU 2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor with 2MB L3 ca Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated system memory Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" Ultrabright HD widescreen LED-backlit LCD Screen Resolution 1280 X 1024
Keyboard Multi Gesture Touchpad Mouse USB - portable mouse... I added this PSU Intel B960 processor Case XXXXX Cooling XXXXX Hard Drives 1TB hard drive-1000 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL drive Antivirus Avast Browser I E 10 Other Info I see nothing about Motherboard info.
I'm not sure about Sound Card
Ports :(3) USB 2.0, (1) HDMI, (1) VGA, (1) Headphone out, (1) Microphone in, (1) Ethernet LAN
•Fast Wi-Fi wireless and wired Gigabit Ethernet networking
•HDMI output
•Kensington lock slot
I have no idea what all this actually means
LPt, you are in good shape. Your XP has that protocol.
Carl oh great.. at least now I have something going right..
If this router... won't work.. I'll just go buy a new router and start over.. I really hate to have your guys trying so hard to get me connected to I E again.. when it seems almost hopeless to me.
YOU all are so kind and helpful..to hang in here with me.
Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Gateway 17.3" LCD Intel Dual-Core, 8GB RAM 1TB HDD Windows 8 Laptop OS Windows 8 - 64-bit CPU 2.2GHz Intel Pentium dual-core B960 processor with 2MB L3 ca Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics with 128MB of dedicated system memory Monitor(s) Displays 17.3" Ultrabright HD widescreen LED-backlit LCD Screen Resolution 1280 X 1024
Keyboard Multi Gesture Touchpad Mouse USB - portable mouse... I added this PSU Intel B960 processor Case XXXXX Cooling XXXXX Hard Drives 1TB hard drive-1000 GB HDD
DVD-Super Multi DL drive Antivirus Avast Browser I E 10 Other Info I see nothing about Motherboard info.
I'm not sure about Sound Card
Ports :(3) USB 2.0, (1) HDMI, (1) VGA, (1) Headphone out, (1) Microphone in, (1) Ethernet LAN
•Fast Wi-Fi wireless and wired Gigabit Ethernet networking
•HDMI output
•Kensington lock slot
I have no idea what all this actually means
Quote: Originally Posted by Barman58 
