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Windows 7: Imaging with free Macrium


25 Mar 2010   #29
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 
Imaging with free Macrium

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21 May 2010   #30
eldinv

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this is where it gets a little messy and confusing for me.

should i make a separate backup image of just the system reserve? (mark as active) or do a backup image of both system reserved (active) and the C drive (primary)

then what do i do if theres a complete hard drive failure and i need to replace the whole drive, insert the Recovery CD and choose parition to "overwrite with the image data".

so i would have to first create some partitions in the new drive? sorry for asking these stupid questions, but the video is more for backup files and such or serves as a restoration to earlier points, my questions are more theme to replacement of my operating system with system image backups.


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21 May 2010   #31
pparks1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eldinv View Post
should i make a separate backup image of just the system reserve? (mark as active) or do a backup image of both system reserved (active) and the C drive (primary)
I typically just do a backup of both of them in the same backup. Since the system reserved partition is only 100MB...it doesn't take much space at all.

When you have a complete and total meltdown, you don't need to create the partitions ahead of time. Just restore the 100MB reserved partition first as the Active partition and then restore the C drive next as a primary parition and you should be back in business. It will allow you to create these hard drive partitions in the unallocated space on the hard drive.

This is the beauty of having a spare machine or two lying around. You can test and try all this stuff out so that you know how it works.
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21 May 2010   #32
eldinv

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eldinv View Post
should i make a separate backup image of just the system reserve? (mark as active) or do a backup image of both system reserved (active) and the C drive (primary)
I typically just do a backup of both of them in the same backup. Since the system reserved partition is only 100MB...it doesn't take much space at all.

When you have a complete and total meltdown, you don't need to create the partitions ahead of time. Just restore the 100MB reserved partition first as the Active partition and then restore the C drive next as a primary partition and you should be back in business. It will allow you to create these hard drive partitions in the unallocated space on the hard drive.

This is the beauty of having a spare machine or two lying around. You can test and try all this stuff out so that you know how it works.

kwel so load new hard drive in, boot to Recovery CD and then restore first active partition which is the system reserve mark as active and do the recommend replacement of master boot record from the back, since in this case there wouldn't be one since its a new drive.

once this is done, which should be quickly, then restore the C drive mark as primary and also do not replace master boot.

i think i got it, is there a pdf file of the entire manual of macrium would like to read it.
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21 May 2010   #33
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Eldinv, Siw2 is right. I like to add that you do not restore the MBR when you restore the C partition (because the MBR is sitting on the System Reserved).
If your disk drives really dies (which is unlikely), you can restore to a drive that has the same or a larger size - but not to a smaller drive. For that you need cloning which is not a function of free Macrium.

PS: Just saw that there were more posts on the next page that I missed. But I think you got the idea. If you click on the question mark in the Macrium window or go to "Help", you get a pretty good documentation.
Here is an approach for testing that I always recommend to my students. It is a bit lengthy, but the steps are easy:

1. Shrink 2GBs from C and define a simple volume (partition) - let's call it Y
2. Move some files (any files) into Y - I always also move the sample picture folder in (you'll see why)
3. Define a test folder on your external backup disk - call it Mtest
4. Make an image of Y to Mtest - requires that you make a new definition
5. Delete a couple of pictures from the sample picture folder on Y (I always use the 2 animals)
6. Reboot and tap (ESC, F2 or whatever it is on your system) to get into the BIOS boot sequence
7. Set your boot sequence to CD/DVD reader
8. Throw in the Macrium recovery CD and let it run, then hit Enter
9. Now you are in the recovery wizard, set it to Mtest where it says "Locate Image" and to Y where it says "Choose partition to overwrite with the image data".

Note: the partition letters may not be the same as on your system. Macrium uses its own lettering. Best is to go by the size of the partitions and open it with the little + in the front.
10. Watch out when it asks whether to replace the Master Boot Record - in this case say "do not replace" because this is only a data partition. If that were your system partition, you would replace the MBR provided you do not have a separate boot partition.
11. When you get the little window saying "Your computer will now reboot", you have to hit "Cancel" (on the bottom" to get it to reboot. That's a little strange way to end the session, but that's the way it is.
12. Check whether the 2 animals in the sample picture folder are back. That shows you that the recovery worked.

When you have done these steps, you did the whole cycle and have learned

1. That your recovery disk works
2. How to recover
3. That things work

Now you can delete the little 2GB partition and add it back to it's originating partition.

If you are not familiar with the creation and deletion of partitions, watch this tutorial: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/72427-data-partition.html
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21 May 2010   #34
eldinv

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
Eldinv, Siw2 is right. I like to add that you do not restore the MBR when you restore the C partition (because the MBR is sitting on the System Reserved).
If your disk drives really dies (which is unlikely), you can restore to a drive that has the same or a larger size - but not to a smaller drive. For that you need cloning which is not a function of free Macrium.

PS: Just saw that there were more posts on the next page that I missed. But I think you got the idea. If you click on the question mark in the Macrium window or go to "Help", you get a pretty good documentation.
Here is an approach for testing that I always recommend to my students. It is a bit lengthy, but the steps are easy:

1. Shrink 2GBs from C and define a simple volume (partition) - let's call it Y
2. Move some files (any files) into Y - I always also move the sample picture folder in (you'll see why)
3. Define a test folder on your external backup disk - call it Mtest
4. Make an image of Y to Mtest - requires that you make a new definition
5. Delete a couple of pictures from the sample picture folder on Y (I always use the 2 animals)
6. Reboot and tap (ESC, F2 or whatever it is on your system) to get into the BIOS boot sequence
7. Set your boot sequence to CD/DVD reader
8. Throw in the Macrium recovery CD and let it run, then hit Enter
9. Now you are in the recovery wizard, set it to Mtest where it says "Locate Image" and to Y where it says "Choose partition to overwrite with the image data".

Note: the partition letters may not be the same as on your system. Macrium uses its own lettering. Best is to go by the size of the partitions and open it with the little + in the front.
10. Watch out when it asks whether to replace the Master Boot Record - in this case say "do not replace" because this is only a data partition. If that were your system partition, you would replace the MBR provided you do not have a separate boot partition.
11. When you get the little window saying "Your computer will now reboot", you have to hit "Cancel" (on the bottom" to get it to reboot. That's a little strange way to end the session, but that's the way it is.
12. Check whether the 2 animals in the sample picture folder are back. That shows you that the recovery worked.

When you have done these steps, you did the whole cycle and have learned

1. That your recovery disk works
2. How to recover
3. That things work

Now you can delete the little 2GB partition and add it back to it's originating partition.

If you are not familiar with the creation and deletion of partitions, watch this tutorial: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/72427-data-partition.html

got it. do not restore the MBR in the C partition marked as primary, because when you first do the recovery; the system reserved you create has the masterboot record there.
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21 May 2010   #35
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Right.
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25 May 2010   #36
eldinv

DOS^
 
 

if i install Vmware and make a new install of windows 7 can i use macrium image inside of the VM replace my current os, using the image of the vmware software.
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25 May 2010   #37
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by eldinv View Post
if i install Vmware and make a new install of windows 7 can i use macrium image inside of the VM replace my current os, using the image of the vmware software.
Hmm, that is a very good question that I have never researched nor tried. I am not familiar with Vmware since I use Virual Box for my virtual partitioning. If Vmware works halfway the same way, you should be able to image the host partition under which it operates and be able to restore that. In vBox, the virtual partition is nothing but a couple of files and some controls that operate under the supervision of the host OS. But if "inside the VM" is not at a partition level (as in vBox), you will not be able to operate with Macrium at that level (or with any other imaging program I would think).
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25 May 2010   #38
SIW2

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Vista x64 / 7 X64
 
 

Don't know if this is the answer you are looking for, but some imaging apps. ( including Paragon ) can make an image of a virtual drive :

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You can create them as well :

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02 Jul 2010   #39
eldinv

DOS^
 
 

another question, first i want to use i absolutely love this program and i wish i knew about it years ago, when in XP i would have to reinstall like every other month.

anyhow, im thinking of buying the full version and i had a question that if yes i will buy right now. does it let you create a backup image and leave out certain files or folder, like video or music folders.
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