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Windows 7: SSD / HDD : Optimize for Windows Reinstallation

4 Weeks Ago   #370
ICIT2LOL

Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
 
 

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q3) I think both with 'Solid State Doctor' and with 'Samsung Magician' one can perform a secure delete/wipe of the whole drive, but the point is - how to do it just before reinstalling OS. I guess the OP is the only way, no?
A tip be watchful of the Magician software a while back I had an issue when my USB ports dropped out and by a stroke of luck a canny member knew what it was - that Magician software. I uninstalled it and back came my ports. You can always reinstall it after an event like that
To be honest I personally do not use those add on softwares because a) that Magician for one is of not much use - well for me at least and b) I feel softwares like those can be handled using the Windows system


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4 Weeks Ago   #371
soewhaty

Win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ICIT2LOL View Post
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q3) I think both with 'Solid State Doctor' and with 'Samsung Magician' one can perform a secure delete/wipe of the whole drive, but the point is - how to do it just before reinstalling OS. I guess the OP is the only way, no?
A tip be watchful of the Magician software a while back I had an issue when my USB ports dropped out and by a stroke of luck a canny member knew what it was - that Magician software. I uninstalled it and back came my ports. You can always reinstall it after an event like that
To be honest I personally do not use those add on softwares because a) that Magician for one is of not much use - well for me at least and b) I feel softwares like those can be handled using the Windows system
I completely agree with you. The only reason I have Magician on board is cos I use it, as well as a plethora of some 3rd party tools to check ssd speed. That's all.

And thanks for your tip! It's one to keep!

Anything on Q1) and is the OP the only way to do a secure erase prior to reinstalling OS?
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4 Weeks Ago   #372
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
I haven't had any issues with samsung magician
My Acer had usb issue well before magician came along seeing it's going on 7 year old mother board I'm surprised it works at all
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4 Weeks Ago   #373
soewhaty

Win 7 x64
 
 

As I said, I do realize that the physical speed won't change. What I was referring to was - wouldn't the drive work quicker or more efficient when secure delete is performed cos there would be less clutter in the way? I say clutter cos I knot that simply deleting or shift+deleting files does not really delete them forever, it generally only means the data blocks involved are flagged as not in use. That's where I was thinking that a secure delete would wipe everything clean and thus the drive would run faster. Right or wrong?
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4 Weeks Ago   #374
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
The only items that make a drive work faster is what rpm it's rated to run at 5400 rpm/ 7200 rpm..
All secure delete does is it does not send to the recycle bin to restore anything
Space is just marked as available sooner or later and the space is over written.
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4 Weeks Ago   #375
soewhaty

Win 7 x64
 
 

Sure ... RPMs have nothing to do with SSD's though, but I got your point. 10x for your input!
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4 Weeks Ago   #376
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Correct it was an example
They do however have spec's for read and write
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Max Sequential ReadUp to 550 MBpsMax Sequential WriteUp to 520 MBps4KB Random ReadUp to 100,000 IOPS4KB Random WriteUp to 90,000 IOPS
After that the firmware kicks in to do all of the work for making the space rewritable
Other hardware cpu.... for the real speed
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4 Weeks Ago   #377
soewhaty

Win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Corect it was an example
They do however have spec's for read and write
Quote:
Max Sequential ReadUp to 550 MBpsMax Sequential WriteUp to 520 MBps4KB Random ReadUp to 100,000 IOPS4KB Random WriteUp to 90,000 IOPS
After that the firmware kicks in to do all of the work for making the space rewritable
Other hardware cpu.... for the real speed
Yes, yes, yes. I'm well aware of that. Let's not get into that, cos it's off topic and off of what I wanted to ask. All I wanted to know was sth about Secure Delete and now I know it. Thank you all for having contributed to my query! You guys are awesome and it's so nice to have you around for help.
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4 Weeks Ago   #378
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Hi,
Glad we could be of help
First thing that should be done is update the ssd's firmware and samsung magician makes that a simple task
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4 Weeks Ago   #379
soewhaty

Win 7 x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Hi,
Glad we could be of help
First thing that should be done is update the ssd's firmware and samsung magician makes that a simple task
Ermmm ... I gotta STRONGLY object here. Remember what happened with nearly all the 850 Pros about 2 years ago when Samsung pushed a new firmware that could either be implemented via the Magician desktop utility or (I think) in the pre-boot environment? Well, that was a HUGE debacle and millions of ppl got their 850 Pros bricked completely after which Samsung asked to have them shipped back and maybe refunded and bla bla bla ... Nearly as bad as their tremendous FAIL with their Galaxy note 7. Actually just as bad, but it never got that much press. They concealed it well. So Samsung and especially their non-magical Magician software are definitely NOT to be trusted! Updating firmware ... mmm prolly a good idea but do it the right way, not via some dubious desktop utility.
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