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Multi Router Network - Configure How to Set Up a Network Using 2 (or more) Routers
Published by severedsolo
06-16-2010
| Multi Router Network - Configure How to Set Up a Network Using 2 (or more) Routers  Note Before attempting this tutorial, please be familiar with the following terms:  Note DCHP, LAN, NAT, Switch, Gateway. Also please be familiar with how to configure your router(s) Every router is different so I can't provide a "one-shot" solution. I would only recommend this if you have at least a basic knowledge of networking. For the above reasons I haven't included screenshots. There really is no point. Screenshots on my router's will probably not help you at all. Sorry. (VERY IMPORTANT) Configure everything I am telling you to do here via Ethernet NOT wireless, the last thing we want is for your wireless to drop at the wrong moment and screw the settings over (VERY IMPORTANT 2)! Keep both routers disconnected from each other until I tell you to connect them! Otherwise they screw each other over and give you no network access. Also don't connect other machines except the one your configuring the router with. The reason for this is we are messing with settings, so any rules which apply now won't apply once you have done it. Hence no network access. (VERY IMPORTANT 3) BACKUP YOUR ROUTER SETTINGS If you follow this guide then I see no reason why it shouldn't work. I have done this on several routers now. However! there is always that one time it doesn't work. Therefore either, write down the settings before you start fiddling, for both routers. or if your routers have the option, back them up (My router has this option under the "Maintenance" section) Section 1 - Placing The Network's Infrastructure Lets Get Started 1) Decide which router is the gateway (which will bind the network together), I chose it to be the one connected to the Internet, I would recommend you do the same. 2) Login to your new gateway and give it an IP address of 192.168.1.1 and set the subnet 255.255.255.0 3) Enable DCHP and the NAT firewall and change the DCHP pool to assign addresses from 192.168.1.2 through to 192.168.1.252 (there is a very good reason why we don't use all the addresses as you will see in a minute) 4) logout of the router and disconnect. Then reconnect and check everything is working (IE you can get on the internet etc.) then disconnect again. 5) Connect to the 2nd router (from this point on I will call it "the switch" as that is really what it is now, we don't want it to act like a router any more) 6) Log in to the switch, give it an IP address of 192.168.1.253 and a subnet of 255.255.255.0 (see why we didn't use all the addresses now?) It is very important that you give it a IP address which is OUTSIDE the DCHP pool of the gateway. 7) Disable the NAT firewall, you don't need it, thats what the gateway is for. and it will cause you problems down the line. 8) Turn off DCHP in the switch. Now it is entirely possible at this point that you will lose connection to the switch. Don't worry, that is normal. hence why I told you to set everything up before hand. The reason is that the switch is no longer handing out IP addresses, this will all be handled by the gateway in our final setup. If you want to test that it is working then give yourself a static IP address: PortForward.com - Free Help Setting up Your Router or Firewall and reconnect. (Incidentally, that is also a guide on how to change the default gateway which may be needed later on) 9) Disconnect from the switch (Pull the cable) 10) REMOVE your static IP address if you used one in the last step. (change it back to "Auto") 11) Connect the Gateway to the Switch via Ethernet. Depending on the router's you may have to use Crossover Cable for this. In my experience though, most modern routers come with what is known as "Auto Uplink Sensing" which means it will not need Crossover Cable. Otherwise you will I'm afraid. You can test whether you need Crossover Cable in the next step. 12) Connect via Ethernet to the Switch. Now with a little bit of luck, everything should work and the Gateway will report itself to Windows and assign you an IP address. If it doesn't then one of two things have gone wrong: a) The Gateway isn't reporting itself properly, in which case you need to change the Default Gateway (thats in the Static IP address guide above) If this is the case, then you will need to reconnect to the Gateway directly and change the DCHP pool so that you have a Static IP which is outside the Pool. b) You need Crossover Cable (as detailed above)  Note A note about networks with more than 2 routers. There must be at any time only ONE gateway. Therefore any additional routers introduced to the network must be configured like the Switch Section 2 - "Look Mum No Wires" - Making the Network Wireless Setting up the wireless is probably the easiest part of this tutorial. If you have followed me so far, then this last little bit will be very easy. In this section, our ultimate goal is to have a network where you can log into any access point with the same credentials, and your PC will see it as the same network. Lets Get Started If you already have the Infrastructure set up, then you can do this by plugging into either router. Just remember, the gateway is at 192.168.1.1 and the switch is 192.168.1.253 the following options need to be changed in BOTH routers: 1) the SSID (Wireless name) needs to be Identical in both cases (including Capitalisation) 2) Any Security (WPA, MAC Filtering etc.) needs to also be Identical, including passphrases. otherwise your PC will not be able to log in to any router. 3) Set the Channel to Auto. There is so much conflicting information out there on this one, some say set it to different channels, some say make them the same channel. I say set it to Auto and let the router decide. It's never failed me. Now, if you have done this right. After the first time you log into the network, you PC should automatically log into the closest router. Hence always giving you the best Wireless signal.  Note If you are in the habit of moving about, your PC will NOT automatically "jump" routers if another one has a stronger signal, you will need to disconnect and reconnect manually  Information This tutorial is the intellectual property of (c)2009 Martin Joy a.k.a severedsolo and is only authorised to be hosted on sevenforums.com This tutorial is not to be copied without my explicit consent and when consent is granted the original author must be credited along with a link to this tutorial |  Published by | | Jack of all Trades Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cromer Norfolk UK Posts: 3,483 | |
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06-16-2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit |
Well done, Martin. Very clear.
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06-16-2010
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#2 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 |
Nice tut Martin. May I ask, what is the purpose of a multi-router setup? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Jonathan King OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU AMD Athlon Dual Core Processor 4850e overclocked @ 2.90 GHz Motherboard ASRock A780 FullDisplayPort Memory 6.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 290MHz Crucial Technology Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX 480 SuperClocked+ Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Onboard Monitor(s) Displays 2x Acer S273HLbmii 27" Screen Resolution 2 x 1920x1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (PS/2) Mouse Microsoft Wired Desktop 500 (USB) PSU Corsair HW Series 750w Modular Case Antec 300 Cooling stock cpu, 120mm hard drive bay fan Hard Drives WD 320GB SATA, Hitachi 1TB SATA, Samsung 1.5TB SATA Internet Speed 25 Mb/s download; 1 Mb/s upload |
06-16-2010
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#3 | | 7 Home Pre x64, Windows XP Pro, Ubuntu 9.04 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Jonathan_King Nice tut Martin. May I ask, what is the purpose of a multi-router setup? Jonathan;
I can think of two situations where there would be a need for more than one router.
First is in order to expand the wireless coverage area. With the one "Gateway" router and other "Bridged" wireless routers placed at strategic locations one can keep sufficient signal strength over a larger area. For example a three story home, or extending signal to a back yard patio or porch.
Second, one can use a second router to create and maintain a "Virtual Private Network" separate from the "Gateway" router that connects to the Internet. This allows for both a "Public" network and a "Private" network accessing the same Internet Access Provider.
Just a couple possibilities ... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS 7 Home Pre x64, Windows XP Pro, Ubuntu 9.04 CPU AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (single core) Motherboard Foxconn NF4UK8AA Memory 2 X 1GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 Dual Channel Graphics Card PNY GeForce 7300 256MB PCIE Sound Card NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Onboard Chipset Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer AL1716 Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA-430D Hard Drives Maxtor 6Y060L0, WD 1600JS Internet Speed 3M Cable Other Info Windows Experience Index: 3.3 System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
06-17-2010
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 |

Quote: Originally Posted by Jonathan_King Nice tut Martin. May I ask, what is the purpose of a multi-router setup? Thank you Jonathan, Kari and Robert
Jonathan, well the reason that I use a multi router setup is because I needed the extended wireless coverage as Robert said. I didn't want to go out and buy a Wireless repeater or Homeplugs as I had a spare router lying around, so I wired her up and fiddled with it until I figured this out.
The poster who I originally made this for wanted it because he had alot of machines in various places about his home.
Although I do admit that in most cases it probably isn't needed. Unless you do it "Because I can" | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Motherboard Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2500K CPU @ 3.30GHz Memory 8GB 1333Mhz DDR3 Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 Sound Card Realtek Monitor(s) Displays Acer Al1980, Screen Resolution 1360*768 Keyboard Alba USB Mouse IT Works Wireless USB PSU 750W Novatech Case Novatech ATX Case Cooling Cooler Master Hyper TX3 Hard Drives 500GB SATA WBC
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06-17-2010
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Jonathan, this tutorial by Martin shows the easiest way to extend wireless network's range, using a second router as a repeater / switch. I'm using this kind of setup at home, getting nice wireless signal throughout quite a big area. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP ENVY 17-1150eg OS Windows 7 x64 Ultimate CPU 1.6 GHz Intel Core i7-720QM Processor Memory 6 GB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5850 Graphics Sound Card Beats sound system with integrated subwoofer Monitor(s) Displays 17" laptop display, 22" LCD and 32" Full HD TV through HDMI Screen Resolution 1600*900, 1680*1050 and 1920*1080 Keyboard Logitech diNovo Media Desktop Laser (bluetooth) Mouse Logitech MX1000 Laser (Bluetooth) Hard Drives Internal: 2 x 500 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
External: 2TB for backups, 3TB USB3 network drive for media Internet Speed 50/10 Mbps VDSL Other Info Windows 7 Ultimate Retail Full in English, additional Guest-user accounts in Finnish, German and Swedish (Working languages English & Swedish, Family language German, my own language, mother tongue, Finnish. I really need Ultimate to get to use Language Packs!) |
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Very nice tutorial Martin
Do you know if there is a way to connect the router to the switch wirelessly, like a repeater would? I don't think they can "talk" that way, can they? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Wally, Innc. OS Windows 7 x64 finally! CPU AMD Athlon II X2 240 Motherboard Biostar TA790GX XE Memory OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066 (will not work past 800MHz) Graphics Card MSI R4670-MD1G Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Device Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays HP w19e Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard wired, many keys Mouse HP wireless, 2 buttons, 1 wheel PSU Athena Power Micro ATX 400W Case HEC 6T 6T10BB Black MicroATX Mini Tower Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB SATA
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06-17-2010
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#8 | | 7 Home Pre x64, Windows XP Pro, Ubuntu 9.04 |

Quote: Originally Posted by wallyinnc Very nice tutorial Martin
Do you know if there is a way to connect the router to the switch wirelessly, like a repeater would? I don't think they can "talk" that way, can they? Wally;
For a home network, not all switches or access points can function as a repeater. For those that can, as I understand, you give up half your bandwidth because a wireless repeater must now receive the original signal, then rebroadcast the signal to the computer. Then from the computer, it must again receive the signal, then rebroadcast it to the 'gateway' and the Internet Connection. A 'wired bridge' to a wireless access point avoids this bandwidth limitation.
Of course there is the more expensive 'commercial' equipment but for most home users the cost is just to much.
Cheers!
Robert | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS 7 Home Pre x64, Windows XP Pro, Ubuntu 9.04 CPU AMD Athlon 64 3400+ (single core) Motherboard Foxconn NF4UK8AA Memory 2 X 1GB OCZ Platinum DDR400 Dual Channel Graphics Card PNY GeForce 7300 256MB PCIE Sound Card NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra Onboard Chipset Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer AL1716 Screen Resolution 1280 x 1024 PSU Antec Earthwatts EA-430D Hard Drives Maxtor 6Y060L0, WD 1600JS Internet Speed 3M Cable Other Info Windows Experience Index: 3.3 System Manufacturer/Model Number Wally, Innc. OS Windows 7 x64 finally! CPU AMD Athlon II X2 240 Motherboard Biostar TA790GX XE Memory OCZ Platinum 4GB DDR2 1066 (will not work past 800MHz) Graphics Card MSI R4670-MD1G Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit GDDR3 Sound Card ATI High Definition Audio Device Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays HP w19e Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard wired, many keys Mouse HP wireless, 2 buttons, 1 wheel PSU Athena Power Micro ATX 400W Case HEC 6T 6T10BB Black MicroATX Mini Tower Cooling stock Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Green WD5000AADS 500GB SATA
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