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Device Manager - Finding Unknown Devices How to Find Unrecognized Devices through Device Manager
Published by TimStitt
07-09-2010
| Device Manager - Finding Unknown Devices Finding Unrecognized Devices through Device Manager  Information This guide will show you how to locate the unidentified hardware in your device manager by using Hardware Identification. The goal of this tutorial is to help identify an unidentified device.  Note Prerequisite knowledge includes opening windows device manager, surfing the internet, data entry and basic windows navigation skills  Warning - Installing the wrong driver can crash your system, this technique revolves around the use of a 3rd party online hardware ID database.
- Some devices (such as legacy devices) may not have hardware ID's. See the "But what if there's no Hardware ID in the drop down box?" for tips on finding out what these devices are.
Here's how- Open Device Manager and find the device. It most likely has a yellow exclamation mark on it like the one in this screenshot below.
  Tip You can open Device Manager quickly by typing devmgmt.msc into RUN or SEARCH and pressing ENTER.
- Now that you've found your device, right click on it and select properties.
- Click on the Details Tab.
- Drop the 'Property' box until you find 'Hardware Id's".
This picture shows my webcam, but unknown devices have hardware ID's too 
- You'll find some number-letter combinations, here's what they mean:
HID = Hardware ID PID = Product ID VID = Vendor ID  Note The Vendor ID may also be called VEN, so look out for this too. If you're having trouble locating these then please take a look at this great Hardware Identification tutorial by Dwarf
- In my screen print I've looked up my Webcam again. My PID=0804, My VID = 046D.
- We need to reference these, so open your browser of choice and navigate to the www.pcidatabase.com website.
- There are other websites, but I think that the PCIdatabase.com team has put together a great site with a lot of information should you need to know more about devices and drivers.

- Type your PID where it says Device Search and press SEARCH (e.g. for my example I type in 0804 and click on the Search button to the right of the Device Search box).
- All Devices with that PID show. This is usually enough; but sometimes multiple devices will show.

- If you have multiple Devices, then you need your VID, so look back to your details column under Hardware ID's and reference it against the Vendor ID column with your VID. Mine was 046D and you can see 0x46d in the Vendor column. That's a match.
- You've now identified your device and can now search for the correct drivers for it.
But what if there's no Hardware ID in the drop down box?
With older legacy devices, some virtual devices, non-plug and play devices, and some viruses there may not be a hardware ID, however there there are other things you can do to find your unrecognized device.
Have a look at these entries in the drop down, there are others, but these are the most common that you will find when the Hardware ID is missing. - DevNode status - This will tell us the current status of the device and differentiate between a driver existing and a driver loading. If the driver exists you can look at it's *.inf file (the inf file name is in the Inf Name drop down)
- Device Instance path - Often contains Vendor and hardware information, if not than it may contain an ACPI linking it to a processor group.
- Class Long Name - It's group name (e.g. Processors)
- Class Short Name - It's short (actual) name (e.g. Processor)
- Class icon path - The path to a dll that houses this devices icons. Although this is likely to be windows generic, it;s worthwhile taking a look at the icons in the *.dll, the easiest way to do this is to change an icon on any shortcut or folder and navigate to that *.dll to browse the icons.
- siblings - Any related siblings
- parent - any related parents
If you are trying to find a Legacy item, it will likely be at this registry address HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\. It should begin with the LEGACY_ (e.g. HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Enum\Root\LEGACY_CPUZ132)
The Windows Registry Editor can be opened by typing REGEDIT into RUN or SEARCH.
Some other locations that you may find this information (with thanks to WindowsStar)are: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\Root HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet002\Enum\Root\  Warning Edit the registry can crash your machine, use this as a research tool only, unless you know what you are doing
Enjoy!
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Hey
thank you but I don't understand how can I get VID and PID ?
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#2 | | Vista SP2 HP 32-bit & Ult 64-bit W7 SP1 Pro 32-bit & 64-bit |
Hi dew1,
To find this information, please see my post on this topic (link at bottom of above Tutorial). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built, N/A OS Vista SP2 HP 32-bit & Ult 64-bit W7 SP1 Pro 32-bit & 64-bit CPU AMD Athlon (tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 7550 @2.5GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA770-ES3 Memory 2 x 2GB PC2-6400 (DDR2-800), Ganged Mode, (4GB total) Graphics Card Nvidia GT 430 1GB Sound Card Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 892) Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA) Screen Resolution 1440x900 Keyboard Microsoft Digital Media Pro Keyboard (USB) Mouse Microsoft Comfort Optical Mouse 3000 (USB) PSU iCute AP-700AS Modular Cooling 2 x 80mm Front Intake 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust Hard Drives 1 x Hitachi Deskstar HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
2 x Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II
2 x Samsung SP0812C 80GB SATA I
1 x Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0 Internet Speed ~4.0 Mb/sec (O2) Other Info HP Photosmart B109a Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet)
CTF-430 Tablet & Pen (USB)
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1 x SP0812C for Ubuntu 10.04 32-bit & 64-bit
1 x SP0812C Reserved for Windows 8 |
07-09-2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Dwarf Hi dew1,
To find this information, please see my post on this topic (link at bottom of above Tutorial). Hi Dwarf,
I feel like I've tried to reinvented the wheel and didn't know that you'd already written one of these.  I searched but didn't find.
I like your use on RED and BLUE to show the VENDER and DEVICE ID's and it points out that Vender ID's can be called VEN as well. I'll make a few edits in regards to the later and link to yours in regards to colors.
Good Post mate.
-Timo
EDIT: Updated with some new info that you provided and referenced. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Hack job OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz Motherboard GigaByte EP45-UD3 Memory 8 GB Kingston Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9600GT Sound Card Soundblaster Audigy Monitor(s) Displays AOC x2 22" Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Optical 2000 PSU Thermaltake QFan 750W Case CM Scout Gaming Cooling Coolermaster V10 Hard Drives 2 x Samsung 500GB (RAID)
2 x Samsung 2TB
1 x WD Green 2TB
1 x Seagate 1TB
1 x Samsung 500GB Internet Speed 320 Other Info Winfast PVR2000CP
LG DVD-RAM DVD/RW/DL Super Multi
Linksys WMP300Nx2 Wireless Adapter |
07-09-2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by dew1 Hey
thank you but I don't understand how can I get VID and PID ?
Hi Dew1,
I've updated the tutorial today with a little new info from Dwarf, if after looking at this and his tutorial you're still lost, then please let me know at which step you lose you way and please post a screen shot of what your looking at. I'm quite happy to help. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Hack job OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz Motherboard GigaByte EP45-UD3 Memory 8 GB Kingston Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9600GT Sound Card Soundblaster Audigy Monitor(s) Displays AOC x2 22" Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Optical 2000 PSU Thermaltake QFan 750W Case CM Scout Gaming Cooling Coolermaster V10 Hard Drives 2 x Samsung 500GB (RAID)
2 x Samsung 2TB
1 x WD Green 2TB
1 x Seagate 1TB
1 x Samsung 500GB Internet Speed 320 Other Info Winfast PVR2000CP
LG DVD-RAM DVD/RW/DL Super Multi
Linksys WMP300Nx2 Wireless Adapter |
07-09-2010
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#5 | | Win7 HP (x64)/Win7 Ultimate (x64) |
Thanks for the tutorial | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom OS Win7 HP (x64)/Win7 Ultimate (x64) CPU Core i7 920 Motherboard Intel X58 Memory 6 x 2GB Corsair XMS3 Graphics Card CF HD4890 Sound Card Asus Xonar Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP Screen Resolution 1920 x 1200 Keyboard Razer Lycosa/N52te Mouse Razer Lachesis PSU Corsair HX1000W Case Antec 1200 Hard Drives 2 x 150GB WDC Velociraptors (Raid 0)
1 x 1TB Seagate
1 x 1.5TB Seagate |
07-10-2010
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Lomai Thanks for the tutorial  Bula Lomai!
You're welcome mate.
EDIT: To meet the forum regulations I need to translate Bula into Hello for other readers | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Hack job OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz Motherboard GigaByte EP45-UD3 Memory 8 GB Kingston Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9600GT Sound Card Soundblaster Audigy Monitor(s) Displays AOC x2 22" Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Optical 2000 PSU Thermaltake QFan 750W Case CM Scout Gaming Cooling Coolermaster V10 Hard Drives 2 x Samsung 500GB (RAID)
2 x Samsung 2TB
1 x WD Green 2TB
1 x Seagate 1TB
1 x Samsung 500GB Internet Speed 320 Other Info Winfast PVR2000CP
LG DVD-RAM DVD/RW/DL Super Multi
Linksys WMP300Nx2 Wireless Adapter |
07-22-2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx |
Great work Timo ! Just found this one now. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate, Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx Motherboard Asus A8N-VM Memory 2 GB Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 6150 Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy 24-Bit Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 2253LW 21.6" Widescreen LCD Monitor Hard Drives 320 GB - Internal
1 TB WD External |
07-22-2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 |
Thanks TimStitt, knew some of the registry edit for hardware legacy, you made it as a tutorial to refer. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Acer Aspire 4810TZG Timeline (Sub Notebook) OS Windows 7 Professional SP1 - x64 CPU Mobile Intel® Pentium_SU4100 - 2 Core/ 1,30Ghz-800MHz FSB Motherboard Acer - Mobile Intel® GS45 Express Chipset Family Memory 4,00Gb Ram, SoDimm_DDR3-PC3 8500F-Dual Channel, 1066MHz Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon HD4330 - Onboard Intel® GM45 Sound Card Realtek HDA (ALC269) + USB Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Monitor(s) Displays Acer - LED Backlit LCD-HD 16:9 Screen Resolution 1366 X 768 (14') Keyboard Acer + MultiTouch Synth Pad Mouse Opus Digital Nano Wireless Laser for notebook (1600dpi) PSU 65W/Ac - 63W Battery Li-Ion (5800mAh) Case Base Board Cooling Acer + Cooler Master™ NotePal D1 Hard Drives INTERNAL:
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-1Tb/To WD Elements_NTFS_3,5", 7200 Rpm_Usb 2.0
-500Gb/Go Iomega Prestige_NTFS _3,5", 7200 Rpm_Usb 2.0.
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-Intel® Wireless WiFi Link 1000BGN
-Altec Lansing Portable (Usb/Aux) Powered Stereo Speakers XT1-s. |
07-22-2010
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#9 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by NoN Thanks TimStitt, knew some of the registry edit for hardware legacy, you made it as a tutorial to refer.  Thanks Non | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Hack job OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz Motherboard GigaByte EP45-UD3 Memory 8 GB Kingston Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce 9600GT Sound Card Soundblaster Audigy Monitor(s) Displays AOC x2 22" Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Keyboard 1000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Optical 2000 PSU Thermaltake QFan 750W Case CM Scout Gaming Cooling Coolermaster V10 Hard Drives 2 x Samsung 500GB (RAID)
2 x Samsung 2TB
1 x WD Green 2TB
1 x Seagate 1TB
1 x Samsung 500GB Internet Speed 320 Other Info Winfast PVR2000CP
LG DVD-RAM DVD/RW/DL Super Multi
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