| Windows 7: License for Windows 7 in VM? |
27 Aug 2010
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
License for Windows 7 in VM? I just ordered an HP ENVY 17-1010NR with Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. I would like to install a clean Windows 7 on the hard drive and then use a Windows VM as my main workstation. Can anyone tell me if the Windows 7 license allows this?
FWIW, I am a software developer and have been running multiple VMware player VM's on a Vista 64 box for work. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Envy 17 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU i7 Memory 8Gb Hard Drives 2x320Gb |
27 Aug 2010
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Not without purchasing another license. Of course, as a software developer you might have something like Technet or more likely MSDN which would allow this. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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27 Aug 2010
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
Thats too bad. What about running Ubuntu on the hard drive and then running Windows 7 on a VMware player, does the Windows 7 license allow this? 
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Not without purchasing another license. Of course, as a software developer you might have something like Technet or more likely MSDN which would allow this. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Envy 17 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU i7 Memory 8Gb Hard Drives 2x320Gb |
27 Aug 2010
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04 Pembroke |

Quote: Originally Posted by CootCraig Thats too bad. What about running Ubuntu on the hard drive and then running Windows 7 on a VMware player, does the Windows 7 license allow this? 
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Not without purchasing another license. Of course, as a software developer you might have something like Technet or more likely MSDN which would allow this. This page may help you slightly. Neowin.net - Virtualizing Windows may violate your license requirements
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Though to be honest, I wouldn't truly worry any 'End User License Agreements'. As long as you are running it on one PC at a time (this includes VM's) you should be golden. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom | Whitebox OS Windows 7 Ultimate, OS X 10.7, Ubuntu 11.04 CPU Intel E6750 @ 3.80GHz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L (Revision 1.1) Memory 2x2GB & 2x1GB (6GB) OCZ Reaper 1066MHz @ 1080MHz Graphics Card EVGA nVidia GTX 260 896mb (216 Core) FTW Edition Sound Card Realtek ALC888 Monitor(s) Displays 21" VIZIO TV Screen Resolution 1680x1050 @ 60Hz Keyboard Logitech Wireless S520 Mouse Logitech Wireless S520 - Microsoft Wireless Arc Mouse PSU Corsair 750W Case NZXT Nemesis Elite Cooling Thermaltake SpinQ Hard Drives Western Digital WD6401AALS - 640GB
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27 Aug 2010
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#5 | | Win7 x64 Ultimate SP1 So California |

Quote: Originally Posted by DarkNovaGamer
Though to be honest, I wouldn't truly worry any 'End User License Agreements'. As long as you are running it on one PC at a time (this includes VM's) you should be golden. I agree | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Optiplex 980 OS Win7 x64 Ultimate SP1 CPU Intel i7-2600 Memory 8 Gig Graphics Card Geforce gt 520 Monitor(s) Displays LG & Acer Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Internet Speed Fios 45/35 Other Info Windows Home Server |
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Quote: Originally Posted by CootCraig Thats too bad. What about running Ubuntu on the hard drive and then running Windows 7 on a VMware player, does the Windows 7 license allow this? Yes, because you would be using the 1 license you are entitled to. Unless of course that license is OEM and then it's tied to the actual physical machine and cannot be moved to another machine. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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27 Aug 2010
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
I have some trouble grasping this. I would wipe windows 7 from the hard drive, install Linux and VMware player, and then install windows 7 on a vm using the activation key for the OEM license on the laptop. So there would be only one copy running on the OEM hardware. I am assuming that the windows 7 would be legal and could be activated. Agreed? 
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 Yes, because you would be using the 1 license you are entitled to. Unless of course that license is OEM and then it's tied to the actual physical machine and cannot be moved to another machine. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Envy 17 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU i7 Memory 8Gb Hard Drives 2x320Gb |
27 Aug 2010
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 |
Technically, this would be a sort of loophole as you are still technically on the same physical machine. It just so happens you're running a virtual one on top of it. I don't think there would be a problem with it but again, this is one of those really grey areas. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i3 530 2.93 Ghz Clarkdale Motherboard ASRock P55 PRO/USB3 LGA 1156 Memory 4 GB OCZ DDR3 1600 (PC12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Graphics Card Nvidia GeForce GTX 550 Ti with 1 GB of RAM Sound Card Realtek HD ALC892 Monitor(s) Displays 20'' eMachines E202HDbmd Glare Panel Widescreen Screen Resolution 1600 x 900 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite Mouse Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Elite PSU Rosewill Xtreme Series RX750-D-B ATX12V v2.2 & EPS12V (750W) Case Cooler Master Centurion 534 RC-534-KKN2-GP Mid-Tower Cooling Standard Case Fans and Stock CPU Heatsink Hard Drives Western Digital 1 TB Caviar Black Edition (7200 RPM) SATA
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27 Aug 2010
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Quote: Originally Posted by CootCraig I have some trouble grasping this. I would wipe windows 7 from the hard drive, install Linux and VMware player, and then install windows 7 on a vm using the activation key for the OEM license on the laptop. So there would be only one copy running on the OEM hardware. I am assuming that the windows 7 would be legal and could be activated. Agreed? I don't even think in this instance that it actually qualifies...as technically the virtual hardware being presented does not match the physical real hardware in the box. Plus, once a VM is up and running, you can easily move it from machine to machine without it seeing a hardware change....so in the event that you went to another machine your VM license would still be activated and valid...which is not allowable with an OEM copy. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
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27 Aug 2010
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
I'm not going to attempt this - I'm usually a stickler for following licensing, although sometimes I don't understand. In any case, I think I'm better off leaving the laptop hardware to Windows 7. I am disappointed Microsoft does not allow one Windows 7 VM on the native instance though.
I plan to use VMware player hosted on Windows 7 to run a number of Linux instances.
Thank you for all the thoughtful responses. 
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 I don't even think in this instance that it actually qualifies...as technically the virtual hardware being presented does not match the physical real hardware in the box. Plus, once a VM is up and running, you can easily move it from machine to machine without it seeing a hardware change....so in the event that you went to another machine your VM license would still be activated and valid...which is not allowable with an OEM copy. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Envy 17 OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU i7 Memory 8Gb Hard Drives 2x320Gb License for Windows 7 in VM? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:48 AM. | |