| Windows 7: Need some advice 4 o/s's |
29 May 2009
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#1 | | |
Need some advice 4 o/s's K I have a need to install the following on one laptop xD :
Windows7 x64
Windows xp pro
Windows Server 2003
Fedora 10
I am a Networks and Security student and software that I will be using this term requires xp pro, I want to manage my lab servers remotely with server 03. Fedora is for a linux class, and Windows 7 64 for everyday use. I was hesitant to put 7 on my lap top, but an old lab p4 dell oplipex could handle it so game on!
I was thinking about using xp pro in a vurtial setting so I don't have to chop up my hd in to lots of partitions. So my question is : How well does windows seven hadle virtual pc ? Also I've duel booted alot but I have never had 3+ o/s on one HD before, any forseen problems ? Thanks ~STEELE | My System Specs |
| OS Windows7 Pro x64 CPU Intel Q6600 Motherboard Asus X38 Memory GSkill DD2 1066 6-6-6-18 Graphics Card CF XFX 4870's Sound Card Creative X-fi XtreamGamer Fata1ity Pro Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 22" 2ms Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Saitek red backlit Mouse Logitech G9 PSU CM1000W Case CMstacker Cooling Air 7 120mm fans Hard Drives Samsung F1 750 GB
W/D 160 Internet Speed 3mbs |
29 May 2009
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#2 | | |
Hello Steele,
It would be great if you could provide us with some more information about your system. How much space does the Hard Disk Drive have? How much Random Access Memory has your system on-board? What processor is in your system?
If you could provide me some information about your system I would be glad to help you. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Build 7100 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.0 GHz. Motherboard ASUS P6T SE. Memory OCZ DDR3-1600 MHz RAM. Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX295. Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium. Monitor(s) Displays Samsung T240 (1920x1200, 5ms). Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G15. Mouse Razor DiamondBack 3G Green. PSU CoolerMaster Silent Pro 700 W. Case Thermaltake Elegant S w/ 230mm sidepanel intake fan. Cooling Thermalright eXtreme 1366 CPU Cooler. Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 30 GB x 2 (RAID0).
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250 GB (not sure about the model number). Internet Speed 75 Mbit Downrate, 6 Mbit Uprate. Other Info A nice gaming PC. :) |
29 May 2009
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#3 | | |
Np, it's not a real strong lappy, but I belive it can get the job done:
IBM ThinkPad R61i
CPU Intel Centrino duo 1.5 (T5250)
Ram 4 gig's @ 664mhz
Video On Board Intel 965 chipset
Harddrive 200 gb
Another question, I should use vista 64 drivers if there are no 7 drivers out, right ? | My System Specs | | OS Windows7 Pro x64 CPU Intel Q6600 Motherboard Asus X38 Memory GSkill DD2 1066 6-6-6-18 Graphics Card CF XFX 4870's Sound Card Creative X-fi XtreamGamer Fata1ity Pro Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 22" 2ms Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Saitek red backlit Mouse Logitech G9 PSU CM1000W Case CMstacker Cooling Air 7 120mm fans Hard Drives Samsung F1 750 GB
W/D 160 Internet Speed 3mbs |
29 May 2009
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#4 | | |
Hello Steele,
The Laptop should be able to run these virtual machines, although that depends a lot on what you're planning on using. You have two options, you use Microsoft Virtual PC, or you use VMWare. VMWare would be a better choice, so if you can get your hands on it on your school/college that would be nice (VMWare isn't freeware, Virtual PC is).
Furthermore I don't see any problems with having 3 OSes on your Hard Disk Drive with only 1 Partition, as long 2 are Virtual. I would like to note you the Virtual Machines are going to use their own space, as in their own Virtual Hard Disk Drive, so the files you install will be written into one big Virtual Disk file. Also a Virtual Environment will be going a lot slower (in some cases). I'd say, try it out.
Learn more about Virtual Machines here.
If you have any more questions, or if I was a little unclear at some points, I'd be happy to help you again. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Build 7100 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.0 GHz. Motherboard ASUS P6T SE. Memory OCZ DDR3-1600 MHz RAM. Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX295. Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium. Monitor(s) Displays Samsung T240 (1920x1200, 5ms). Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G15. Mouse Razor DiamondBack 3G Green. PSU CoolerMaster Silent Pro 700 W. Case Thermaltake Elegant S w/ 230mm sidepanel intake fan. Cooling Thermalright eXtreme 1366 CPU Cooler. Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 30 GB x 2 (RAID0).
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250 GB (not sure about the model number). Internet Speed 75 Mbit Downrate, 6 Mbit Uprate. Other Info A nice gaming PC. :) |
29 May 2009
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#5 | | |
Thanks for your reply AJay. I want to host xp pro(x86) virtually from 7x64. I would like to have server 2003 on it's own partion and fedora on it's own as well. So there will be 3 different partitions. The linux partition will only be about 30 gb's in size and the server 2003 about 20. Virtually xp pro will only need to be 10gb in size, and the rest allocated to windows 7. My school's acidemic alliance unfortanatly doesn't give us VMWare software. So I will probably be using Virtual PC. Unless VMWare Server will work ( I believe it is free). | My System Specs | | OS Windows7 Pro x64 CPU Intel Q6600 Motherboard Asus X38 Memory GSkill DD2 1066 6-6-6-18 Graphics Card CF XFX 4870's Sound Card Creative X-fi XtreamGamer Fata1ity Pro Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 22" 2ms Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Saitek red backlit Mouse Logitech G9 PSU CM1000W Case CMstacker Cooling Air 7 120mm fans Hard Drives Samsung F1 750 GB
W/D 160 Internet Speed 3mbs |
29 May 2009
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#6 | | |
Hello Steele,
If you only plan on running XP x86 Virtually then you're more than fine. Virtual PC's not that bad, it's just a little bit slower then VMWare. I have no clue about VMWare Server, you could try that out. Furthermore I think there won't be any problems.
And as a reply to a question you asked earlier, but which I had foreseen: Quote: Another question, I should use vista 64 drivers if there are no 7 drivers out, right ? Yes, if there is not a driver specially made for Windows 7, Vista drivers will work 9 out of 10 times. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Build 7100 x64 CPU Intel Core i7 920 @ 4.0 GHz. Motherboard ASUS P6T SE. Memory OCZ DDR3-1600 MHz RAM. Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX295. Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium. Monitor(s) Displays Samsung T240 (1920x1200, 5ms). Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Logitech G15. Mouse Razor DiamondBack 3G Green. PSU CoolerMaster Silent Pro 700 W. Case Thermaltake Elegant S w/ 230mm sidepanel intake fan. Cooling Thermalright eXtreme 1366 CPU Cooler. Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 30 GB x 2 (RAID0).
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 250 GB (not sure about the model number). Internet Speed 75 Mbit Downrate, 6 Mbit Uprate. Other Info A nice gaming PC. :) |
29 May 2009
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#7 | | Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 Fruitland, Idaho |
Hi Steele,
I am running VMware workstation running on Win 7 RC 7100 with the following O/S's:
XP Pro
Vista Ultimate 32 bit
Opensuse 11.1
Ubuntu 9.04
Thus far no problems.
Good Luck at school. . . | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion a4302f OS Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11 CPU AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 @ 3.0 Gbz Memory 12GB 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM - 2x4GB, 2x2GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4350 HD Graphics/Audio with 512MB Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays 1. Dell 23" SP2307, 2. Mitsublishi 40" HDTV, Hannspree 25" Screen Resolution 1. 2048x1152, 2. 1920-1080, 3. 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 2000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 Case Mid Tower Cooling Standard Fans - 5 fans (very quiet) Hard Drives Int: 1 120 Gig SSD i
1 - 2.5" 500 USB External HDD
1 -1 Tb USB External HDD Internet Speed 10 Mbit (realistically 500 Kbit - 1.2 Mbit) Other Info Speakers - Bose Desktop (Excellent Sound)
1 external CD|DVD\Blue-ray Recorders/Players (Sony) |
31 May 2009
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#8 | | |
Isn't there a trail period with VMware ? Is it a one time cost or renewable ? | My System Specs | | OS Windows7 Pro x64 CPU Intel Q6600 Motherboard Asus X38 Memory GSkill DD2 1066 6-6-6-18 Graphics Card CF XFX 4870's Sound Card Creative X-fi XtreamGamer Fata1ity Pro Monitor(s) Displays ViewSonic 22" 2ms Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Saitek red backlit Mouse Logitech G9 PSU CM1000W Case CMstacker Cooling Air 7 120mm fans Hard Drives Samsung F1 750 GB
W/D 160 Internet Speed 3mbs |
02 Jun 2009
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#9 | | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
You could also use Virtual Box as its free and runs both on Linux and Windows depending on what Host you want to run.
A neat way of using VMWARE for FREE is to download vmplayer (free) and then use QEMU.EXE (download also for free) to create a vmware workstation virtual machine.
The problem with vmplayer is that you can't create virtual machines -- only power them on and run them but QEMU gets round this problem -- then you get the advantage of being able to use vmware which is IMO (and a lot of others) faster, more flexible and overall a better virtualisation solution than virtual pc.
For more details on using QEMU read here VMware Player with your own Windows XP Professional Virtual Machine
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
02 Jun 2009
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#10 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 Newport, South Wales, UK |
Hello Steele, and welcome to the Seven Forums
What I am surprised at is that in all the good advice you have recieved here that no one has suggested that you set up your threee partitions as you suggest and then run XP using the built in function included in Windows 7
Windows 7 XP mode Windows XP Mode - Install and Setup
This also comes with a compatibility mode which allows you to run the XP programs in XP mode without actually starting a visible VM
Also When setting up the multiboot If possible load the OS's in age order oldest first so that the OS you are installing is aware of those on the machine.
Also when installing Linux if possible set it to load the Grub loader on it's own partition (not the active partition) and use the windows 7 loader (your default OS and the latest ) to control the boot. once you have the linux and Windows 7 installed you can use EasyBCD to set up the boot how you want it Download EasyBCD 1.7.2 - NeoSmart Technologies
Last edited by Barman58; 02 Jun 2009 at 04:59 AM..
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| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Real World Computing (Me + a little help from Acer) OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 + x86 + Windows 8 x64 CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2.6 GHz Motherboard Aspire M3400 Memory 4Gb PC10600 DDR3 1333 MHz Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 315 512MB Sound Card OnBoard - Realtek High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Philips 32" HDTV, (HDMI) + 26" TV (VGA) Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @60Hz + 1360 x 768 @60Hz Keyboard Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) Mouse Microsoft Wireless 800 or Stock Acer, (depends where I sit) PSU Stock (400W) Case Acer M3400 Cooling Stock Hard Drives 500 GB Seagate ST3500418AS SATA II
1 TB Hitachi HDS5C1010CLA382 SATAII
1 TB Samsung Spinpoint F1 HD103SI SATA II (external)
Plus various other (client ) HDDs as needed Internet Speed Temporaray 3G Dongle Antivirus Avast Browser Chrome Other Info USB Capture + Webcam(s) Bamboo Digitizer tablet
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