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04 Aug 2009
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#11 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
Holo, you're not the village idiot - if anything, the folks who coined the terms should be referred to a village idiots.
Virtual Desktops are as Zidane mentions - multiple desktops that can be doing different tasks simultaneously. Think of it as a person with 1 monitor actually having 4 virtual monitors - monitor 1 is running an email app full screen, monitor 2 is running a browser full screen, monitor 3 is playing a video, and monitor 4 is currently empty - something like that. Now, this user can switch from virtual desktop 1 (aka monitor 1) to virtual desktop 2 (aka monitor 2) and so on.
Virtualization of the desktop, screen , and operating systems is, in fact, similar, but they operate at very different levels. VMWare, VBox, and Virt PC give you a virtual operating system - not just another copy of your screen, but the entire OS. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
04 Aug 2009
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#12 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 North Carolina, United States of America |

Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt Holo, you're not the village idiot - if anything, the folks who coined the terms should be referred to a village idiots.
Virtual Desktops are as Zidane mentions - multiple desktops that can be doing different tasks simultaneously. Think of it as a person with 1 monitor actually having 4 virtual monitors - monitor 1 is running an email app full screen, monitor 2 is running a browser full screen, monitor 3 is playing a video, and monitor 4 is currently empty - something like that. Now, this user can switch from virtual desktop 1 (aka monitor 1) to virtual desktop 2 (aka monitor 2) and so on.
Virtualization of the desktop, screen , and operating systems is, in fact, similar, but they operate at very different levels. VMWare, VBox, and Virt PC give you a virtual operating system - not just another copy of your screen, but the entire OS. Indeed...the terms are incorrect...makes a very confusing scenario | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Compal JFT02 (Custom Build Laptop) OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 - Mac OS X 10.6.4 x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Duo T9300 2.5 GHz Motherboard JFT02 Memory 4GB Kingston DDR2-800 Graphics Card NVIDIA Geforce 8600M GT (512MB Model) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays WUXGA Standard Laptop Display Screen Resolution 1680*1050 Keyboard Standard Laptop 105 Key-Keyboard Mouse Synaptics Touchpad PSU Standard Laptop Power Supply Case Standard Laptop Case Cooling Standard Laptop Cooling Hard Drives Toshiba 320GB 5400RPM Laptop HD Internet Speed Verizion Online DSL 3360/864 kbs (dl/up) |
05 Aug 2009
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#13 | | |
Agree with johngalt... He's actually right. VBox emulates PCs, Virtual Desktop Managers emulate monitors... You can run diffirent applications on every desktop. Run browser on desktop 1, run player on desktop 2, etc. Modern Virtual Desktop Managers supports also diffirent wallpapers, shortcuts, resolution for each desktop(e.g. Crystal Desktop). | My System Specs | | |
07 Sep 2009
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#14 | | |
Was reading over this post, and found out some disappointing news. nView (Nvidia card program) had multiple desktop functions, and they worked really well, BUT they are only supported on Quadro (aka super expensive) Video Cards for Vista/7.
But if you do have a Quadro, nView should work really well for you. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Motherboard Gigabyte K8nSC-939 Memory 2GB Mushkin DDR400 Graphics Card GeForce 6600GT (AGP) Sound Card Realtek AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 17" GemStar LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Logitech LX3 PSU Thermaltake 430W Case Antec Lanboy Cooling Fan/Heatsink Hard Drives Seagate 160GB
LACiE 2TB External Internet Speed 768kbits |
07 Sep 2009
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#15 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
IIRC, wasn't nView offered with all video cards that supported dual monitors in XP, but then they restricted it to Quadros when Vista came out? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
08 Sep 2009
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#16 | | |
You do recall correctly.
I had used nView with XP for a while, and it did a nice job of handling full screen apps and making sure it didn't bog down the system. But, possibly because of Aero, that had to restrict it to Quadro video cards, which makes some sense. Quadros were intended for AutoCAD and large amounts of content, so they focus less on raw speed and more on memory (4GB GDDR3 on the latest one, according to wikipedia.) | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Motherboard Gigabyte K8nSC-939 Memory 2GB Mushkin DDR400 Graphics Card GeForce 6600GT (AGP) Sound Card Realtek AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 17" GemStar LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Logitech LX3 PSU Thermaltake 430W Case Antec Lanboy Cooling Fan/Heatsink Hard Drives Seagate 160GB
LACiE 2TB External Internet Speed 768kbits |
08 Sep 2009
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#17 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
I knew I had used nView before.
My last build was a P4 2.0 GHz (Northwood CPU with the double L2 cache @ 512 KB) and a GeForce 4 MX 440 (made by Visiontek - yes, they used to make nVidia cards) that I used with dual 19" monitors - one was a ViewSonic Graphics Series GS 790 and the other was a Philips 109B Flat face (not flat screen, just an additional screen that was flat), and I remember trying to figure out the one thing that was missing - the second taskbar.
I built that machine back in 2002, and ever since then I was obsessed with a taskbar on every monitor - and I still, to this day, have to run 3rd party software to achieve this!
Last edited by johngalt; 18 Sep 2009 at 11:45 PM..
Reason: changed 10" to 19" - my bad, folks...
| My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
17 Sep 2009
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#18 | | |
Sysinternals Virtual Desktop App Sysinternals Desktops may work.
Perhaps not as functional as other apps as its limited to 4 desktops, and you can't easily move apps between windows (eg OSX Leopard) but it works for me and it's FREE. | My System Specs | | |
18 Sep 2009
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#19 | | |
Thanks for the link, Zigx.
This reminds me of the Virtual Desktop Powertoy for XP... which it looks like it IS the same thing, just redone a bit for Vista/7.
But it does work. All subsequent desktops run Basic theme, but I'm sure my video card couldn't handle multiple aeros running anyhow. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Motherboard Gigabyte K8nSC-939 Memory 2GB Mushkin DDR400 Graphics Card GeForce 6600GT (AGP) Sound Card Realtek AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 17" GemStar LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Logitech LX3 PSU Thermaltake 430W Case Antec Lanboy Cooling Fan/Heatsink Hard Drives Seagate 160GB
LACiE 2TB External Internet Speed 768kbits |
18 Sep 2009
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#20 | | |
As I haven't played with this yet... How well do virtual desktops work if you already have multiple monitors? I used virtual desktops when I had only one monitor, but as I currently have a (semi) clean install of Windows right now, I don't want to install more than what I need, and especially if it might mess with the dual-monitor system I currently have. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC CPU AMD Phenom Quad-Core Motherboard ECS A770M-A Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon 4600 series Monitor(s) Displays 2 eMachines LCDs Virtual desktop in 7... problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:13 PM. | |