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18 Sep 2009
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 4,530 posts Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
Good question - I haven't actually tried any of the items listed here since I also have dual screens - but since my laptop is now a clean installed Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, I figure it is time to start playing ... again.
I'll let you know in a day or so. | My System Specs |
| Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
19 Sep 2009
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 4,530 posts Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
There are a whole bunch listed in the comments of this slashdot 'article' - Slashdot | Virtual Desktops on Windows?
Also, there was a recent Lifehacker High-Five - Five Best Virtual-Desktop Managers - Virtual Desktops - Lifehacker | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
19 Sep 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by NaviRahu As I haven't played with this yet... How well do virtual desktops work if you already have multiple monitors? The Sysinternals program that was recently mentioned seems to "duplicate" a desktop. As in, switching to another desktop, whatever program is running on that desktop ONLY shows up on that desktop (even in systray). Which prompts to guess that it depends on your setup. If you have two monitors set to "stretch" your desktop, then when you toggle to the next desktop, it'll be a 'clean slate' on both of them. However, if you have them set up as separate entitites somehow, then I have no idea what would happen were you to use Zigx's mentioned program. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC CPU AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ Motherboard Gigabyte K8nSC-939 Memory 2GB Mushkin DDR400 Graphics Card GeForce 6600GT (AGP) Sound Card Realtek AC97 Monitor(s) Displays 17" GemStar LCD Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard PS/2 Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Logitech LX3 PSU Thermaltake 430W Case Antec Lanboy Cooling Fan/Heatsink Hard Drives Seagate 160GB
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19 Sep 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt Good question - I haven't actually tried any of the items listed here since I also have dual screens - but since my laptop is now a clean installed Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit, I figure it is time to start playing ... again.
I'll let you know in a day or so. I look forward to it! I'd play a little more if this weren't my work and school computer as well. lol 
Quote: Originally Posted by Winphreak The Sysinternals program that was recently mentioned seems to "duplicate" a desktop. As in, switching to another desktop, whatever program is running on that desktop ONLY shows up on that desktop (even in systray). Which prompts to guess that it depends on your setup. If you have two monitors set to "stretch" your desktop, then when you toggle to the next desktop, it'll be a 'clean slate' on both of them. However, if you have them set up as separate entitites somehow, then I have no idea what would happen were you to use Zigx's mentioned program. Having two blank slates might be useful. Particularly since I'm currently studying graphic design, and have a tendency to do a million things at once. It'd certainly be less clutter. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 RC CPU AMD Phenom Quad-Core Motherboard ECS A770M-A Memory 4GB Graphics Card ATI Radeon 4600 series Monitor(s) Displays 2 eMachines LCDs |
19 Sep 2009
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| | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi 5,149 posts Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
The old Microsoft desktop switche from SYSINTERNALS was fine (XP only) but these days using more than one REAL monitor is fine - once you get the hang of it the two monitors (or 4 if you have dual head video cards) are just "One extended space" so you just drag the image to the 2nd monitor and by clicking the mouse you can start working on that monitor.
Extremly good when you want to use a 19 / 22 inch monitor with a laptop.
I'm not so sure these days if "Virtual desktops" are such a great idea anymore when you can use REAL monitors to do the same thing -- even a 19 inch extra monitor (often with a TV tuner built in so no need for extra TV cards) can be purchased really cheaply now.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
19 Sep 2009
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With "Sysinternals Desktops" each "Virtual Desktop" behaves as if it were distinct from the others (ie it's not just one big desktop that you see bits of at a time).
As Winphreak mentioned above, only Desktop1 uses Aero.
The taks bar only shows apps in the current desktop and you can only alt-tab between apps on your current desktop, however Task Manager will show all tasks on all desktops. Each desktop has it's own task bar and all the desktop icons are present on each desktop.
When you connect to an external monitor, it "grows" each desktop to fill both screens (same as if without "Desktops"). Again each external view is distinct from the others so if you have 4 desktops and 2 monitors you have 8 screens to fill with apps! Also, the screen resolutions for both monitors are replicated on all desktops so if you change it in one it changes the others.
Note that some popups (eg task bar alerts and program crash alerts) pop up only in the first desktop, regardless of which desktop you are on, so if something crashes, check desktop 1. However, the "You Have Mail" sound should play as normal even if your mail app is on another desktop.
ZX
BTW: I'm running Windows 7 on 17" MacBook Pro...
What I really desire is MacOSX Leopard - Spaces, but I don't want to reboot | My System Specs | | |
19 Sep 2009
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| | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 4,530 posts Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
OK, the contenders I have lined up for testing thus far are: Dexpot 1.4 - The utility for virtual desktops How to Use multiDesk 2001 Trombettworks software Virtual Desktop Manager, Convert WMA to MP3, WMA MP3 OGG Encoder and Decoder, Day Planner, Password Manager, Mouse Software, Windows File Dialogs, CD Ripper, System Tray Utility, Volume Control and Speaking Clock. VirtuaWin - Virtual Desktops for Windows Desktops CRYSTAL DESKTOP - The Best Windows Virtual Desktop Manager. Vista/XP Virtual Desktop Manager - Home Virtual Dimension
Also, I have a couple to play with for more entertainment purposes (these are not strictly multiple desktop apps, so I am not categorizing them with the above mentioned) Multi Screen Remote Desktop - DGTSoft.com 360desktop | Bring your desktop to life. Taringa! - 3DNA-Loft-110 Desktop v1.1 | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
25 Sep 2009
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| | W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi 5,149 posts Hafnarfjörður IS |
Hi there
With these types of apps the SIMPLEST is usually the best option -- the new sysinternals one seems to work just fine (4 deskstops and easily switchable between them) and on Windows 7 x-64 as well. It's a pure basic desktop switcher so very tiny -- note each desktop is a separate process so you can't "copy" apps from one desktop to the other as each desktop is a separate "Explorer" process -- however it does "exactly what it says on the tin" and is ideal if you want to keep applications separate on different desktops -- desn't either crash like more "feature" enabled applications do.
I tried Virtua win but you get problems in Windows 7 X-64 when setting the desktop switching keys so I uninstalled it.
dexpot also random problems.
All in all the sysinternals one is best "cheap (free) and cheerful". Does what it says it does.
Cheers
jimbo | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS W7 X-64 RTM,SUSE 11.1, XP PRO SP3 as a VM, VMware ESXi CPU Q9400 QUAD Motherboard P5QL-CM Memory 8GB Graphics Card On Motherborad Sound Card Realtek HD audio Monitor(s) Displays Apple Cinema display Mouse Toshiba wireless laser Hard Drives 4 X 1TB SATA Internet Speed > 20MB up |
29 Oct 2009
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| | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 5 posts |
I just came upon this topic, in part because I was seeking a virtual desktop solution for Windows 7 64-bit when my Stardock Virtual Desktop/BandVWM (from the Object Desktop package) no longer worked.
It was a lightweight, very fast, highly capable virtual desktop system with a taskbar-embedded set of virtual desktop views, each showing its own non-minimized apps. I could easily drag and drop a window from one virtual desktop to another, send them all to a single desktop, etc. Quick to view and navigate.
Stardock's application works fine under Windows 7 32-bit (despite a warning during installation), but fails to start under 64-bit. They are blaming the UAC model for why they are not developing a new version that specifically supports Windows 7, but I don't find that fully reasonable an explanation.
From the nicely compiled list above, I tried Vista/XP Virtual Desktop Manager and it seemed to work fine, though its default behavior seems to keep different apps in different virtual desktops, which includes apps that are minimized. I tend to restore windows or move apps from one desktop to another for ease of editing/comparison needs, so this style of separating desktops didn't work out for me. Some apps wanted to become restored again and flashed in the task bar when switching to "their" desktop, which was a minor hassle. But, it seemed solid and didn't cause system problems from what I could see.
Will be interested in further reviews from folks, as I'm going to try VirtuaWin and Crystal Desktop next.
- wader | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel i5-750 Motherboard ASUS P7P55D Memory 8GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Graphics Card ASUS ENGTX260 Sound Card Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 940Be Screen Resolution 1280x1024 Keyboard Old IBM Mouse Wacom Intuos 2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W ATX Case Antec mid-tower Cooling Antec fans Hard Drives Hitachi 150GB (system)
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