Businesses Save $$$ Moving to Microsoft Virtualization

pparks1 · 29 Aug 2009

Night Hawk said:

The one main thing that still lacks with anything other then the XP mode is full access to all drives even usb devices while some VMs allow for a dvd drive.

Ummm...you can do "Shared Folder" on Sun VirtualBox...thus giving you access to the drives on the host computer. In addition, you can do USB devices on both VirtualBox and VMWare.

Night Hawk · 29 Aug 2009

I haven't been running any VM player since that wouldn't work on the Vista Home Premium some time back when first looking for something a little more then DOSBox. The Portable Virtual Box requires the program in the guide to have a shared virtual drive on the host where you upload through Live Mail storage in order to download onto the Portable VBox vhd there.

That's more or less a two step process required for seeing files transferred over from the main to PVBox 7 installation. The SUN program does offers a couple of interesting items not seen in the MS Virtual PC and XP mode alike with the option to raise the video memory up from the default 12mb to 128mb and switch between the default Realtek audio to the SB 16bit for sound.

With something to enable direct access to at leasr the optical drive older dos/95/98 compatible and other slightly newer games for 98-XP would like run with sound due to those two options! The 128mb would be a match for some requiring 128mb and the older dos Window 9x compatible games seeing the 64mb required.

The MS angle at present is geared mainly at business and commecial server application rather then the home user type desktop application at this stage while improvement will eventually be seen at their rate for home use. The 3rd party programmers might be able to take advantage of that fact to get into the home market with their offers.

I still have to try working with the regular VBox you run from the main drive. Once I am able to get into that further I can give you some ideas there.

Creer · 30 Aug 2009

Night Hawk said:

It has nothing to do with the EULA or OEM licensing but the edition itself simply lacking the necessary support. In 7 as well the Home Premium edition won't support the new XP mode as not seeing any support for the updated VPC there. Pro, Ultimate, or Enterprise are the choices.
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Thanks for reply.
Please take a look here:
Vista EULA forbids virtualization
I haven't seen any info (reliable) yet about this for Windows 7 so I'm still not sure if HP version of W7 will be able to support VM in accordance with the license.

pparks1 · 30 Aug 2009

Creer said:

Thanks for reply.
Please take a look here:
Vista EULA forbids virtualization
I haven't seen any info (reliable) yet about this for Windows 7 so I'm still not sure if HP version of W7 will be able to support VM in accordance with the license.

I cannot believe they put this wording into the EULA. But I guess that most people don't even realize they are subject to these restrictions since they don't use the EULA. And people often ask me, "why do you bother with stuff like Linux"? Well, it's because of BS just like this.

Antman · 30 Aug 2009

And, most consumers do not have access to read the EULA until after the shrink wrap is removed creating a nearly unreturnable item.

pparks1 · 30 Aug 2009

Antman said:

And, most consumers do not have access to read the EULA until after the shrink wrap is removed creating a nearly unreturnable item.

Yes, but since the whole world pirates software these days, there is nothing that could be returned.

Night Hawk · 30 Aug 2009

Creer said:

Thanks for reply.
Please take a look here:
Vista EULA forbids virtualization
I haven't seen any info (reliable) yet about this for Windows 7 so I'm still not sure if HP version of W7 will be able to support VM in accordance with the license.

That's interesting there since I ended up trying the Home Premium edition on the new VPC for a look. That was later replaced with the 32bit RC on the exact same vhd made up. The 64bit RC ended up on the SUN Portable VBox for a look there as well as a few distros.